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    should have been traded 1-2 yrs ago. Now hes worth a bag of chips and a 2nd rounder. Hope patfo dont have higher expectation about his value and will not reject offers from western teams.

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    Between Jakob and Luka we've got some defensively fleet-footed bigs in our future, not sure we need a sieve unless he's an offensive marvel, and then only off the bench.
    He could do some things coming off the bench, he can shoot, he can stretch the floor and be used in some scenarios but we need athleticism and he's not the answer for that but the fact that he can shoot can't go unnoticed

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    The exact same situation is happening with PJ Tucker, except it's easier to deal with PJ because he has a small contract.

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    He could do some things coming off the bench, he can shoot, he can stretch the floor and be used in some scenarios but we need athleticism and he's not the answer for that but the fact that he can shoot can't go unnoticed
    Cheers! I agree if he can shoot that well as a bench role.

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    should have been traded 1-2 yrs ago. Now hes worth a bag of chips and a 2nd rounder. Hope patfo dont have higher expectation about his value and will not reject offers from western teams.
    Keeping washed-up players past their expiration dates while they rot like old milk is the PATFO way. Only saving grace is that no loyalty contract was given.

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    IMO, you could give more value to LMA's barely existent value by saying it's Pop's fault he didnt put him in situations to succeed because he's focusing more on the young guys. You can point to his 20 pt games this season and say his poor defense was his poor effort and that if he tried, he would actually be an OK defender.

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    IMO, you could give more value to LMA's barely existent value by saying it's Pop's fault he didnt put him in situations to succeed because he's focusing more on the young guys. You can point to his 20 pt games this season and say his poor defense was his poor effort and that if he tried, he would actually be an OK defender.

    This is not how a multi million dollar negotiation goes down man. If a team wants LMA than they have done their due diligence. This isn’t a kijiji ad for a used car where you attempt to pull the wool over someone elseses eyes. Very little information asymmetry with this current situation. Teams know what is up.

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    This is not how a multi million dollar negotiation goes down man. If a team wants LMA than they have done their due diligence. This isn’t a kijiji ad for a used car where you attempt to pull the wool over someone elseses eyes. Very little information asymmetry with this current situation. Teams know what is up.
    You're giving these organizations too much credit.

    The T Wolves constantly get top 10 picks and continue to suck. They recently angered many people by not doing a proper hiring process after they fired their coach this season.

    Sometimes, these organizations are not run by savvy, intelligent people, but they're usually blocked by ownership who think they should run things. It's workplace politics.

    If you look at PJ, he's only scored > 10 only five games out of 32 games this season.

    Aldridge has scored 20 that many times and >10 in much more.

    I think there's more value here than fans realize. Aldridge isn't dead weight. It's more likely that it's his contract that is the challenge.

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    You're giving these organizations too much credit.

    The T Wolves constantly get top 10 picks and continue to suck. They recently angered many people by not doing a proper hiring process after they fired their coach this season.

    Sometimes, these organizations are not run by savvy, intelligent people, but they're usually blocked by ownership who think they should run things. It's workplace politics.

    If you look at PJ, he's only scored > 10 only five games out of 32 games this season.

    Aldridge has scored 20 that many times and >10 in much more.

    I think there's more value here than fans realize. Aldridge isn't dead weight. It's more likely that it's his contract that is the challenge.
    PJ will be easier to move, because his contract is relatively tiny, and more commensurate with his abilities.

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    Keeping washed-up players past their expiration dates while they rot like old milk is the PATFO way. Only saving grace is that no loyalty contract was given.
    Well, they kind of did by gifting him $18M this year. His contract was only $6M guaranteed, but for some mystifying reason, fully guaranteed it LAST year. For a player who constantly needs to be kicked in the ass to get in shape in training camp and the early season, that might not have been the best move.

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    Wish nothing but the best for LMA. Would have won a ring if it wasn't for Zaza. Also happy that Pop is finally focused on the spurs and not Trump .

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    You're giving these organizations too much credit.

    The T Wolves constantly get top 10 picks and continue to suck. They recently angered many people by not doing a proper hiring process after they fired their coach this season.

    Sometimes, these organizations are not run by savvy, intelligent people, but they're usually blocked by ownership who think they should run things. It's workplace politics.

    If you look at PJ, he's only scored > 10 only five games out of 32 games this season.

    Aldridge has scored 20 that many times and >10 in much more.

    I think there's more value here than fans realize. Aldridge isn't dead weight. It's more likely that it's his contract that is the challenge.
    Well he's dead weight to us. All our metrics are terrible when he plays. And teams are aware of that. I am sure there are teams who look at this and say well we like LMA for insert reason here but the spurs clearly have no use for him so we are not going to give up very much for a player they clearly don't even want on their team. That's like me watching you set a sofa on the curb and I say I am interested in purchasing it and you say you will sell it for 500 dollars. I am going to tell you no because I just watched you put it on the curb so obviously you don't want it, I will buy it for 20 bucks take it or leave it.

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    Well he's dead weight to us. All our metrics are terrible when he plays. And teams are aware of that. I am sure there are teams who look at this and say well we like LMA for insert reason here but the spurs clearly have no use for him so we are not going to give up very much for a player they clearly don't even want on their team. That's like me watching you set a sofa on the curb and I say I am interested in purchasing it and you say you will sell it for 500 dollars. I am going to tell you no because I just watched you put it on the curb so obviously you don't want it, I will buy it for 20 bucks take it or leave it.
    I don’t think anyone sees a great haul coming back from LMA. The reality is, he didn’t cost us any assets on the way in, and 20 bucks is better than paying him to go away.

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    The exact same situation is happening with PJ Tucker, except it's easier to deal with PJ because he has a small contract.
    They're both UT guys. Wonder if they're trying to play together??

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    Is Tucker going to the Nets as well to join his friend? He seems washed but something tells me he will resurrect himself if he goes to the Nets. The NBA is getting worse every year knowing who the final two teams will be so early in the season.

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    Is Tucker going to the Nets as well to join his friend? He seems washed but something tells me he will resurrect himself if he goes to the Nets. The NBA is getting worse every year knowing who the final two teams will be so early in the season.
    Only french NBA players reignite their washed up trajectories when traded to new teams

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    Only french NBA players reignite their washed up trajectories when traded to new teams
    Tucker seems done but something tells me that we'll see a new Tucker when he joins a contenter especially the Nets

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    Haven't been following the Spurs closely this season. When did this drama all start? I did see his stats are down.

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    should have been traded 1-2 yrs ago. Now hes worth a bag of chips and a 2nd rounder. Hope patfo dont have higher expectation about his value and will not reject offers from western teams.
    Truth -the inept FO and the old coach should have moved on 2 years ago as I have said repeatedly. What a farce it has come to not even playing him his value is so low.

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    Haven't been following the Spurs closely this season. When did this drama all start? I did see his stats are down.
    Seriously, someone feed me the 411. I haven't been paying attention. I'm just noticed Bryn Forbes isn't on the team. I just figured he was injured. I never thought Pop would get rid of his pet. He must've found a new pet to have done that.

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    Haven't been following the Spurs closely this season. When did this drama all start? I did see his stats are down.
    Seriously, someone feed me the 411. I haven't been paying attention. I'm just noticed Bryn Forbes isn't on the team. I just figured he was injured. I never thought Pop would get rid of his pet. He must've found a new pet to have done that.
    low information derp

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    low information derp
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    "Miami has also dangled veterans Avery Bradley, Maurice Harkless and Meyers Leonard to match salaries as part of a trade package for San Antonio's LaMarcus Aldridge, league sources told HoopsHype. The Heat would also have to add another minimum contract such as either Chris Silva or KZ Okpala and draft pick compensation to make a trade worthwhile for San Antonio. Miami is expected to have compe ion from several teams hoping to acquire Aldridge to improve their playoff chances. Some executives around the league who spoke with HoopsHype believe the Boston Celtics could join the mix to acquire Aldridge using their $28.5 million trade exception despite Danny Ainge recently suggesting the team will most likely use the exception during the offseason. Aldridge earns $24 million this season. The Celtics are roughly $19.9 million below the hard cap and would need to send out $4.1 million in salary to San Antonio to stay below the hard cap according to our salary cap expert Yossi Gozlan. Boston has also been linked to several frontcourt players including Kings forward Harrison Barnes, Pistons forward Jerami Grant, and Magic center Nikola Vucevic. MORE: Potential Boston Celtics Trade Targets"

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    "Miami has also dangled veterans Avery Bradley, Maurice Harkless and Meyers Leonard to match salaries as part of a trade package for San Antonio's LaMarcus Aldridge, league sources told HoopsHype. The Heat would also have to add another minimum contract such as either Chris Silva or KZ Okpala and draft pick compensation to make a trade worthwhile for San Antonio. Miami is expected to have compe ion from several teams hoping to acquire Aldridge to improve their playoff chances. Some executives around the league who spoke with HoopsHype believe the Boston Celtics could join the mix to acquire Aldridge using their $28.5 million trade exception despite Danny Ainge recently suggesting the team will most likely use the exception during the offseason. Aldridge earns $24 million this season. The Celtics are roughly $19.9 million below the hard cap and would need to send out $4.1 million in salary to San Antonio to stay below the hard cap according to our salary cap expert Yossi Gozlan. Boston has also been linked to several frontcourt players including Kings forward Harrison Barnes, Pistons forward Jerami Grant, and Magic center Nikola Vucevic. MORE: Potential Boston Celtics Trade Targets"

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    Boston ain’t getting Grant or Vucevic. LMA might be an option if Harrison Barnes is unattainable.

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    "Miami has also dangled veterans Avery Bradley, Maurice Harkless and Meyers Leonard to match salaries as part of a trade package for San Antonio's LaMarcus Aldridge, league sources told HoopsHype. The Heat would also have to add another minimum contract such as either Chris Silva or KZ Okpala and draft pick compensation to make a trade worthwhile for San Antonio. Miami is expected to have compe ion from several teams hoping to acquire Aldridge to improve their playoff chances. Some executives around the league who spoke with HoopsHype believe the Boston Celtics could join the mix to acquire Aldridge using their $28.5 million trade exception despite Danny Ainge recently suggesting the team will most likely use the exception during the offseason. Aldridge earns $24 million this season. The Celtics are roughly $19.9 million below the hard cap and would need to send out $4.1 million in salary to San Antonio to stay below the hard cap according to our salary cap expert Yossi Gozlan. Boston has also been linked to several frontcourt players including Kings forward Harrison Barnes, Pistons forward Jerami Grant, and Magic center Nikola Vucevic. MORE: Potential Boston Celtics Trade Targets"

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    Boston should send us Theis and a pick. That would be ideal

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