The casuals on here celebrating a win over the mighty Chicago Bulls is just unsightly. This isn’t MJ’s Bulls. this isn’t even Derrick Rose’s Bulls and we are acting like this is a great victory. We should never have been down by 20+ in this game. It took Jakob Poeltl having the game of his life to secure this victory. I mean when you depend on a role player to give you 20 and 16 to defeat a bottom feeder of the Eastern Conference, that isn’t a good thing.
Most casuals will say that we are 3-1 without Demar. That he holds back the youth. They may even start a thread about their spidey senses tingling about a fantasy trade of Demar. But this is the easiest part of our schedule. We beat Orlando, Chicago (barely), and Detroit. And the one playoff team we faced, without the MVP of the league btw, we got our asses kicked. Make no mistake about it, if we play this way against the West’s best then we will lose.
Demar brings stability. He brings a calming presence to the court. He knows when to back off and when to turn it on. He is playing excellent ball this year. When Murray’s dribble dribble is off or Whites broken shot is still broken, having Demar will offset this. I hear people say, we never would have made that comeback with Demar. To which I reply we never would’ve been down 20 to the effing Bulls in the first place. If we have any shot of making the playoffs then we need Demar back and we need him back soon. Facts
Demar’s offense plus the young cores’ defense give them a better fighting chance without a doubt. I just hope it has no negative effect on Lonnie when Demar returns, because somehow Lonnie has been playing better. And hopefully it doesn’t take away minutes from Vassell also. But yes, definitely Spurs need Demar’s offense and passing.
Last edited by John B; 03-18-2021 at 05:11 AM.
Dude, we will lose to the West's best with DeRozan too.
What's the point of keeping DeRozan around? To be marginally better right now and maybe win a couple more games? What do we gain with that other than to waste the opportunity of getting something in return instead of losing him for nothing?
I would much rather trade him for a first round pick and a chance at getting another Vassell, Keldon, White or DJ. If we don't trade him now, we have almost no choice but to resign him (if he doesn't bail on us), at probably a steeper price, just to remain in mediocrity for a couple more years. Everybody should realize we are never getting out of this mediocrity with DeRozan as the top dog. We might get to second round here or there, but the ceiling is pretty much set with this guy. I don't understand some Spurs fans obsession with remaining on purgatory.
Yup, spurs need their best player
Spurs’ ceiling with demar - first round fodder, at best
Spurs’ ceiling without demar - first round fodder, at best
I can’t wait for the Delmar era to end
Question for the folks that want to keep DeMar: What do you think will happen if we keep him? Do you think we will somehow start contending for championships? Are you afraid we will miss the playoffs if we move him? If so, do you really think losing in the first round is so much better than not making it? I want to understand the reasoning behind wanting to keep a 32 flawed player that has already peaked, and that everybody knows will never be a lead on a contending team.
The Bulls are just one loss behind the vaunted Celtics in the EC pecking order. They're not nearly as ty as they used to be -- having a good coach in Billy Donovan helps.
But the team is struggling without DeRozan. Maybe they figure out how to fill in what is lost, or not.
This isn't XBOX. Players learn from each other and develop and DDR is capable of doing many things the younger players can't. At least not yet.
We need to be losing games is what we need, tf are we doing winning for a chance to go nowhere. Trade Demar and start losing more, this mediocrity needs to end at some point and it won't if we keep this 7th-8th seed bs.
A Demar led team is not enough, but together with a 20/10 PF/C either through trade or FA, plus budding Star DJ, improved White, Lonnie, Keldon, Vassell, Luka and Co, this team will contend pass the 1st round next year.
Last edited by John B; 03-18-2021 at 06:53 AM.
Losing more to get a lottery pick? Unless it’s a generational talent like Timmy or DRob, it’s not going to make Spurs a contender overnight. Ask Philly, Cavs, Knicks with top picks year after year. And do you think it’s guaranteed they would stay when the team is losing? And you can bet the Spurs would lose plenty without a star, ask Sacramento. You think last year was ugly. I don’t think a small market San Antonio could afford it, much less the owner who would look for a greener pasteur. Be careful what you wish for. This team is only a 20/10 PF/C away from contending, but it would be difficult to attract that Star without a Demar.
Our biggest issue now is to start the game strong and DDR doesn't seems to be the answer to that.
LeBron alone struggled to win with the Lakers.
Kawhi alone is struggling with the Clippers.
Harden alone struggled in Houston.
Luka alone struggled in Dallas.
Jokic alone struggled for Denver.
Why you expect Demar to win NBA series alone?
The Spurs need a tall, fast ad skilled PF capable of 17pts/8rbs per game.
The Spurs need more consistency from their role players and young guns.
you have to stop thinking that everyone here is as logical as you or i.
spurtalk is just interested in winning games. ST doesn't really care about the future tbh.
It's been said many times, tanking brings a losing culture and can be hard to overcome, especially for a franchise that struggles bringing in FAs.
If we let deroz go, we could use the money to address the imbalance in the roster and sign cheaper vets. But knowing San antonio, if deroz wants to return he's probably the best free agent we could get. Extending him and then trading him is a win win, deroz gets his contact and SA gets to move on on it's own terms. Even if the spurs lose a first to dump deroz at next year's deadline i think it might be best idea.
Overall, I agree with this. The team without DDR isn’t going to suddenly tank. They won’t be great with him. To add a PF and become a contender? That would need to be a HOF talent. You don’t get to the Finals w/o HOF talent in my opinion, at least in the WC. The East is another story.
I have a higher opinion of DDR now overall, but not to the point that I think he is a savior. We know what we have with him, which is good but not great. I think we have to roll the dice on our young players and let them develop and see if any of them become great, because I don’t see any other realistic scenario, other than luck in the draft or some miracle through free agency.
We had that in Aldridge and we missed the playoffs altogether.
32-39 last year.
Missed playoffs.
Facts.
Marco, gone
Forbes, gone
Five double digit runs over the last two games
Facts
We had Forbes/Belli <<<< budding Star DJ, improved White, Keldon, Vassell and Co. Come on. It’s not even close.
Is this an admission by you that CIA Pop made below poor decisions?!
Let's say we get prime Aldridge on this current roster, do you really think we would improve to contender status? I don't see it at all.
Prime Aldridge was 23 pts 11 rebs. Yes, are you kidding me? With our current roster, we get to the Finals with that.
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