NBA Trade Deadline: 2020-21 Season

[Prime BEEF]

He's in a unique spot for a veteran so called star. Due to his 3 and D limitations, a contender or aspiring one won't have interest. The only ones who will are non glamour markets attempting to remain or become compe ive and many of them won't have the requisite cap space either.

If his precious Raptors aren't interested in a reunion, he'll have to warm up to the notion of someone like the Hawks.

Yes agree

[exstatic]

The thing with the Spurs is that they won't trade anyone to just any place. They will try to "do right" by their players, and that limits greatly the places where folks can get traded. For example, I don't think DeRozan would be cool with a trade to Atlanta like someone suggested above. Much less Cleveland, whic is another trade scenario I saw.

I think with both vets being on ending deals, that kid of goes out the window. Neither will be marooned anywhere too terrible. I agree about Cleveland. I think DeMar to ATL isn’t a marooning. They’re playing very well, and are in the EC playoff picture. LaMarcus kind of made his own bed, and will have to negotiate a buyout wherever he lands.

[Maddog]

Well that’s encouraging that there are some offers according to Windhorst

There are always offers...

[scott]

Did you read the article? That’s ALL he’s in it for. Doesn’t care if he wins or loses. Got traded to Memphis. Didn’t care. Got traded to Orlando. Didn’t care, and doesn’t care, still. One of the worst franchises.

I don’t want a guy who doesn’t give a if his team wins or loses. You do you.

Was it an article, or just what someone wrote was "From The Magic Front Office" like they have some Insider Patreon Newsletter where the reveal all of their inner workings?

Guys who don't care don't become 25/11 all-stars at age 30. He didn't look like someone who doesn't care when we played them a few weeks ago.

Maybe he'll settle for a team that isn't a top contender for the right pay day... guess what kind of team the Spurs are.

[K...]

people whine about deroz depression,, poertles lack of heart, and LMA's so so effort at conditioning, but are nitpicking a player? I get not wanting Vuj because of the limited upside, but saying his personality sucks because he's not like kobe is just dumb. this team needs a leader but that's deroz or murray. Stretch bigs aren't usually the heart of the team.

[Thomas82]

Spurs FO is great at drafting and player development. They are terrible at almost everything else. I think we can get a true cornerstone player with a top 5 pick. They won’t tank or trade assets when they have value. So we get stuck picking later and gathering good players who aren’t good enough to make us a le contender.

That about sums it up.

[mo7888]

I'm reading a few reports this morning that Atl is looking to keep JC and resign him because they can't get enough value right now with his $4.1 salary. If they want to do that they will need to jettison one of Capella, Gallo, or Bogdanovic. I wonder if we could work a deal (either now or at the draft) using an expiring contract or cap space to acquire one of them plus Hunter or their 1st? Personally, I like Hunter more than JC as a 3/4 as opposed to JC as a 4/5.

[Dejounte]

I'm reading a few reports this morning that Atl is looking to keep JC and resign him because they can't get enough value right now with his $4.1 salary. If they want to do that they will need to jettison one of Capella, Gallo, or Bogdanovic. I wonder if we could work a deal (either now or at the draft) using an expiring contract or cap space to acquire one of them plus Hunter or their 1st? Personally, I like Hunter more than JC as a 3/4 as opposed to JC as a 4/5.

They're not letting go of Hunter or Capela, from what I've read they're high on them. It'll either be Gallo or Bogdanovic with Huerter as a sweetener. They say Huerter is ineffective when Hunter is playing, so there's your odd man out.

[mo7888]

They're not letting go of Hunter or Capela, from what I've read they're high on them. It'll either be Gallo or Bogdanovic with Huerter as a sweetener. They say Huerter is ineffective when Hunter is playing, so there's your odd man out.

I really am skeptical that Huerter (or Reddish) is enough of a sweetener to move Gallo or Bogdanovic right now... I think a 1st, Okongwu, or Hunter would do it... I see Hunter as a good bit more valuable than Okongwu though... so if we were to go after him I'd expect us to include a 1st and take back salary.

Something like this

https://tradenba.com/trades/Hj5Yh-JrY

[Excessive Egotist]

I'd imagine Atlanta will try very hard to keep Hunter.

Gallo, Reddish, and Huerter for DeRozan and no picks either direction seems fair. The deal favors the Spurs, but if DeRozan gives commitments to resign with Atlanta, it's solid for them too, particularly for current postseason push. I could see Atlanta pushing for the inclusion of Mills or Gay and maybe settling on Lyles (sending one of Snell or Hill back to make the money work).

https://tradenba.com/trades/ZhEAaBcJV

[Dejounte]

I'd imagine Atlanta will try very hard to keep Hunter.

Gallo, Reddish, and Huerter for DeRozan and no picks either direction seems fair. The deal favors the Spurs, but if DeRozan gives commitments to resign with Atlanta, it's solid for them too, particularly for current postseason push. I could see Atlanta pushing for the inclusion of Mills or Gay and maybe settling on Lyles (sending one of Snell or Hill back to make the money work).

https://tradenba.com/trades/ZhEAaBcJV

Correct. Atlanta losing Hunter is equivalent to us losing Keldon. It would be devastating for Spurs fans.

[mo7888]

I'd imagine Atlanta will try very hard to keep Hunter.

Gallo, Reddish, and Huerter for DeRozan and no picks either direction seems fair. The deal favors the Spurs, but if DeRozan gives commitments to resign with Atlanta, it's solid for them too, particularly for current postseason push. I could see Atlanta pushing for the inclusion of Mills or Gay and maybe settling on Lyles (sending one of Snell or Hill back to make the money work).

https://tradenba.com/trades/ZhEAaBcJV

I'd still try and push for Hunter by taking back more salary...

https://tradenba.com/trades/bjFqTiewn

You're also having to negotiate with a GM having a little friction with his owner ...the owner wants to buy and push for the playoffs and the GM wants a longer term plan... this splits the middle for them....it let's the owner make the playoffs and the gm preserve cap space and add a pick to maneuver this summer.

[Dverde]

I really am skeptical that Huerter (or Reddish) is enough of a sweetener to move Gallo or Bogdanovic right now... I think a 1st, Okongwu, or Hunter would do it... I see Hunter as a good bit more valuable than Okongwu though... so if we were to go after him I'd expect us to include a 1st and take back salary.

Something like this

https://tradenba.com/trades/Hj5Yh-JrY

I like it. I think DDR would be a great fit for ATL. He could run the offense with Derrick White’s son and John Collins.

[Excessive Egotist]

I'd still try and push for Hunter by taking back more salary...

https://tradenba.com/trades/bjFqTiewn

You're also having to negotiate with a GM having a little friction with his owner ...the owner wants to buy and push for the playoffs and the GM wants a longer term plan... this splits the middle for them....it let's the owner make the playoffs and the gm preserve cap space and add a pick to maneuver this summer.

I can see the appeal of this deal. I'm not sure Hunter is enough of an upgrade over Huerter + Reddish (my preference) to justify taking on so much extra money. Gallo is old and injury prone. He seems like he is losing a step. Two more years. Bogdan is coming off a bad injury and is only a borderline starter. Three more years.

Playing Devil's Advocate and giving your deal its due: Hunter is a prototypical modern four who is a solid starter or a great piece for an 8 man rotation. Hunter is, atm, clearly better than Huerter and Reddish. Spurs could move Gallo or Bogdan later, perhaps netting draft compensation. Although there is little evidence the team remembers how to participate in market negotiations.

[mo7888]

I can see the appeal of this deal. I'm not sure Hunter is enough of an upgrade over Huerter + Reddish (my preference) to justify taking on so much extra money. Gallo is old and injury prone. He seems like he is losing a step. Two more years. Bogdan is coming off a bad injury and is only a borderline starter. Three more years.

Playing Devil's Advocate and giving your deal its due: Hunter is a prototypical modern four who is a solid starter or a great piece for an 8 man rotation. Hunter is, atm, clearly better than Huerter and Reddish. Spurs could move Gallo or Bogdan later, perhaps netting draft compensation. Although there is little evidence the team remembers how to participate in market negotiations.

That's fair.... I'm also a stumped at how the struggle within their organization between management and ownership will play out... it seems to me that struggles like this end with one side overcompensating a bit and lends itself to them making a deal they probably shouldn't make... I'd like to take advantage of that....

[Excessive Egotist]

Hollinger suggests Mills as a target for Mavericks. Just playing along....if I'm Spurs, I'd ask for a top 15 protected 2022 pick. I doubt Dallas would do that for a playoff rental. Maybe two unprotected seconds? '21 and '23?

Meh.

I'd much rather target Thybulle.

https://tradenba.com/trades/LiQexAacS

[Kurgan]

Hollinger suggests Mills as a target for Mavericks. Just playing along....if I'm Spurs, I'd ask for a top 15 protected 2022 pick. I doubt Dallas would do that for a playoff rental. Maybe two unprotected seconds? '21 and '23?

Meh.

I'd much rather target Thybulle.

https://tradenba.com/trades/LiQexAacS

Lol, Spurs aren't helping Dallas for two crappy 2nd rounders. Also, Patty looks to be a lifer unfortunately. The old man loves dat culture

[mo7888]

Hollinger suggests Mills as a target for Mavericks. Just playing along....if I'm Spurs, I'd ask for a top 15 protected 2022 pick. I doubt Dallas would do that for a playoff rental. Maybe two unprotected seconds? '21 and '23?

Meh.

I'd much rather target Thybulle.

https://tradenba.com/trades/LiQexAacS

Is he suggesting it as something the mavs should do...or is he reporting that the man's are interested in acquiring Mills?

[Excessive Egotist]

Is he suggesting it as something the mavs should do...or is he reporting that the man's are interested in acquiring Mills?

Only suggesting as something they should consider...not reporting.

[Excessive Egotist]

Spurs should be in help themselves mode. I don't think they're too worried about helping others right now, especially with an older vet.

Although, I can see them trying to stay respectful to important vets, like Patty, by only dealing them to a compe ive team.

[mo7888]

Spurs should be in help themselves mode. I don't think they're too worried about helping others right now, especially with an older vet.

Although, I can see them trying to stay respectful to important vets, like Patty, by only dealing them to a compe ive team.

I agree with that.. I know alot of ppl here wouldn't trade with the mavs period...and its not something I'd really like to do but, if they were willing to overpay a little I'd trade with them.

[Dverde]

Spurs should be in help themselves mode. I don't think they're too worried about helping others right now, especially with an older vet.

Although, I can see them trying to stay respectful to important vets, like Patty, by only dealing them to a compe ive team.

LMA isn’t like Timmy, Manu, or David West who gave the Spurs a discount to help the team get players. He got two enormous contracts and I feel he did his best. I would be fine with him staying home rehabbing to get ready for FA next year. But to buy this guy out and still see him in the playoffs on Portland, Lakers hitting buckets against you while still cashing your checks.... Only the Spurs

[pad300]

I'd imagine Atlanta will try very hard to keep Hunter.

Gallo, Reddish, and Huerter for DeRozan and no picks either direction seems fair. The deal favors the Spurs, but if DeRozan gives commitments to resign with Atlanta, it's solid for them too, particularly for current postseason push. I could see Atlanta pushing for the inclusion of Mills or Gay and maybe settling on Lyles (sending one of Snell or Hill back to make the money work).

https://tradenba.com/trades/ZhEAaBcJV

If I was PATFO, I would ask for Okongwu in place of Huerter and Reddish. If we take a 3 for 1 trade, we have to cut someone else prior to trading to make room...

[Excessive Egotist]

If I was PATFO, I would ask for Okongwu in place of Huerter and Reddish. If we take a 3 for 1 trade, we have to cut someone else prior to trading to make room...

Lots of variations for deals with Atlanta. That's positive. There is an opportunity to get something done.

I assume that if we need to open a roster spot, we'll buyout Aldridge or include Lyles in a deal.

[mo7888]

Lots of variations for deals with Atlanta. That's positive. There is an opportunity to get something done.

I assume that if we need to open a roster spot, we'll buyout Aldridge or include Lyles in a deal.

Or just waive Lyles depending on the money coming back..