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    There are worse outcomes. He’s been in “the system” before, under Bud in ATL. His game has aged much better than LMA’s. He shoots over 5 treys a game at 37%, and is also a secondary playmaker. He can play with, and also spell Poeltl. His contract ends in 2023, the next decent FA class. He’s been a positive for both OBPM and DBPM every year since his rookie season.
    By all accounts one of the NBA good guys too.

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    We went from a playoff streak to a buyout streak. Big Al will be solid vet, but he’ll want out at a certain point too.

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    From the NBASupes guys on the hawks forum... no details though

    “This just in, expect a lot of trades tomorrow. Don't expect Atlanta to do anything. There was some interest in a backup 5 but that died down considering the market and what we have that's available (Goodwin/Bruno). Dunn makes Atlanta interest in getting another PG slim to none. The market is too expensive for the most part for what Atlanta has as pieces. The better pieces you have, the more people want them for cheap. “

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    Man I know ST can be pretty delusional at times but some of those hawks fans are fcking nuts, they value there players like pop values Patty lol

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    I know it's not going to happen and his salary is terrible, but Horford would be perfect for this team just as a basketball player.

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    No more JC dreamin'

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    Kawhi said that he wanted to play with the Spurs for his entire career in March of 2018, and demanded a trade in July. Players say things sometimes. Still not entirely convinced.

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    My cynical side says we're not going to do anything besides buy out LaMarcus and squeak into the playoffs for no reason.

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    My cynical side says we're not going to do anything besides buy out LaMarcus and squeak into the playoffs for no reason.
    And that would be fine.

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    This ruined the Spurs' chances:



    as usual you are reading too much into this. David West and Zaza almost threw punches only to play together the following season

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    as usual you are reading too much into this. David West and Zaza almost threw punches only to play together the following season
    Sig bet that JC doesn't come to the Spurs?

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    Man I know ST can be pretty delusional at times but some of those hawks fans are fcking nuts, they value there players like pop values Patty lol
    Very true..

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    I expect this afternoon we start seeing trades announced..

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    Rockets fan forum insider tidbits:

    "The Sixers also are taking offers for Paul Reed as well so they may add even more to the roster."

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    Hearing that the Sixers are quite serious about Lowry and extending him if they get him. If Philadelphia is willing to go all out for Lowry then I don’t see how Miami possibly gets him without including Herro.

    Also, while it is true Lowry is 36-37 years old, he is playing very well and is healthy and an extension for him is two seasons... Oladipo wants a longer extension for more money and more years.

    The Heat have Dinwiddie as a back up plan but I am not sure what they send to NJ as the Nets want a post player for him."

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    Hawks are a good choice.

    The Hawks management has a lot of pressure to win now and make the playoffs.

    The Hawks have payroll issues being able to afford to resign Collins so they want to trade players under contract.

    The Hawks need a veteran and a defensive wing.

    The Hawks have young players and assets to trade."

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    The Hawks ownership has put tremendous pressure on the front office to win now... they have allowed a rebuild and now expect results to start happening, and that includes making the playoffs.

    The Hawks are going to need to pay Collins this summer and seem resigned to the fact it will be the maximum so they need to clear money off the books. However, the Hawks are also looking for a good defensive borderline all star type perimeter player to add to their team to help push towards the playoffs. So how can the Hawks add that type of player? They are running into a financial cluster and they also don't want to lose future draft picks.

    Trading Reddish and Okongwu helps them cover up their mistakes signing Bogdanovich and Dunn and it also insulates them from the lack or production by Reddish. As for Okongwu, he plays spots where the Hawks have better players. The Hawks drop 32 million off their commitments next year and can either sign Oladipo to an extension or have money sign Collins and add another player in free agency.

    The trade can be extended to include other salary like Rondo for additional assets, depending on what the Rockets and Hawks are willing to tolerate."

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    The Hawks want Oladipo but do not want to trade any draft picks.

    The Hawks also want to get rid of Brogdan to clear cap space."

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    Pistons ownership want to win. They never have had the stomach for a proper rebuild. They know that they are not going to be able to sign a star in free agency, so they think Oladipo is the type of player they can potentially get long term if they trade for him and offer him the max.

    So you have a GM getting pressure from above and below (Casey) to win. They have likely convinced themselves that Jerami Grant and Victor Oladipo plus a high lottery pick are enough to compete long term.

    As outsiders we can say that is not enough... but look at these boards, there are fans on here that don’t think the Rockets need a rebuild while those on the outside are saying “the Rockets need to start over”."


    Info matches up with ATL insider

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    I haven't followed but isn't Reddish looking better this year?

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    I haven't followed but isn't Reddish looking better this year?
    They say he hasn't taken a leap like Hunter has. The words used were "boom or bust" when he's on the court. He's "not a steady player" you can rely on and some ATL fans prefer Tony Snell for the starter position over him because of this.
    Last edited by Dejounte; 03-24-2021 at 08:25 AM.

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    Rockets fan forum insider tidbits:

    "The Sixers also are taking offers for Paul Reed as well so they may add even more to the roster."

    "
    Hearing that the Sixers are quite serious about Lowry and extending him if they get him. If Philadelphia is willing to go all out for Lowry then I don’t see how Miami possibly gets him without including Herro.

    Also, while it is true Lowry is 36-37 years old, he is playing very well and is healthy and an extension for him is two seasons... Oladipo wants a longer extension for more money and more years.

    The Heat have Dinwiddie as a back up plan but I am not sure what they send to NJ as the Nets want a post player for him."

    "
    Hawks are a good choice.

    The Hawks management has a lot of pressure to win now and make the playoffs.

    The Hawks have payroll issues being able to afford to resign Collins so they want to trade players under contract.

    The Hawks need a veteran and a defensive wing.

    The Hawks have young players and assets to trade."

    "
    The Hawks ownership has put tremendous pressure on the front office to win now... they have allowed a rebuild and now expect results to start happening, and that includes making the playoffs.

    The Hawks are going to need to pay Collins this summer and seem resigned to the fact it will be the maximum so they need to clear money off the books. However, the Hawks are also looking for a good defensive borderline all star type perimeter player to add to their team to help push towards the playoffs. So how can the Hawks add that type of player? They are running into a financial cluster and they also don't want to lose future draft picks.

    Trading Reddish and Okongwu helps them cover up their mistakes signing Bogdanovich and Dunn and it also insulates them from the lack or production by Reddish. As for Okongwu, he plays spots where the Hawks have better players. The Hawks drop 32 million off their commitments next year and can either sign Oladipo to an extension or have money sign Collins and add another player in free agency.

    The trade can be extended to include other salary like Rondo for additional assets, depending on what the Rockets and Hawks are willing to tolerate."

    "
    The Hawks want Oladipo but do not want to trade any draft picks.

    The Hawks also want to get rid of Brogdan to clear cap space."

    "
    Pistons ownership want to win. They never have had the stomach for a proper rebuild. They know that they are not going to be able to sign a star in free agency, so they think Oladipo is the type of player they can potentially get long term if they trade for him and offer him the max.

    So you have a GM getting pressure from above and below (Casey) to win. They have likely convinced themselves that Jerami Grant and Victor Oladipo plus a high lottery pick are enough to compete long term.

    As outsiders we can say that is not enough... but look at these boards, there are fans on here that don’t think the Rockets need a rebuild while those on the outside are saying “the Rockets need to start over”."


    Info matches up with ATL insider
    If that's really what Atlanta wants...they should approach the Spurs about a DeRozan + DJ package.... it would cost them but that's the price of getting what they need.

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    I expect this afternoon we start seeing trades announced..


    Last year's trade deadline, these trades happened:

    • Reports: Cavs pick up Pistons’ Drummond
    • Marcus Morris headed to Clippers, per reports
    • Reports: Wolves deal Wiggins to Warriors for Russell
    • Reports: Wolves get in on Heat-Grizzlies swap
    • Reports: Wizards trade McRae to Nuggets for Napier
    • Sixers reportedly trade Ennis to Magic
    • Hawks reportedly add Labissiere
    • Rockets reportedly add Caboclo
    • Walton Jr. reportedly dealt to Hawks
    • Report: Grizzlies, Heat agree on 6-player trade
    • Report: Grizzlies to waive Waiters
    • Reports: Burks, Robinson off to Sixers

    https://www.nba.com/2019-20-trade-tracker

    10 of these trades happened on the day of the trade deadline. Only two happened the day before.

    Probably only a couple trades happen today. We'll see.

    If that's really what Atlanta wants...they should approach the Spurs about a DeRozan + DJ package.... it would cost them but that's the price of getting what they need.
    IMO, no need to include DJ...
    Last edited by Dejounte; 03-24-2021 at 08:16 AM.

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    In 2018-2019,

    Six trades happened the day before the trade deadline and 13 happened on the day of.

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    Yes the majority of trades happens on the last day.

    I just hope the Spurs will take at least a better back up C than Eubanks. Imo they will not be a lot of moves on our side, juste aldridge BO, maybe something with Lyles but that's it. But who knows ? we'll see.

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    Last year's trade deadline, these trades happened:

    • Reports: Cavs pick up Pistons’ Drummond
    • Marcus Morris headed to Clippers, per reports
    • Reports: Wolves deal Wiggins to Warriors for Russell
    • Reports: Wolves get in on Heat-Grizzlies swap
    • Reports: Wizards trade McRae to Nuggets for Napier
    • Sixers reportedly trade Ennis to Magic
    • Hawks reportedly add Labissiere
    • Rockets reportedly add Caboclo
    • Walton Jr. reportedly dealt to Hawks
    • Report: Grizzlies, Heat agree on 6-player trade
    • Report: Grizzlies to waive Waiters
    • Reports: Burks, Robinson off to Sixers

    https://www.nba.com/2019-20-trade-tracker

    10 of these trades happened on the day of the trade deadline. Only two happened the day before.

    Probably only a couple trades happen today. We'll see.



    IMO, no need to include DJ...
    I'm not talking about us needing to include DJ.... I'm saying Atlanta should want him.... I wouldn't give DJ away and still expect the same package we've talked about for DeRozan. We should get more...it should cost them..but they should be aggressive about wanting him if the article you shared is correct.

    As for the trades today, I think you're right. We probably see 2 or 3 significant ones that clear the stage for the flurry we get tomorrow.

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    I would hate to do DeRozan dirty by sending him to the Magic. Of course he could jet in the offseason.
    That's why I don't see the incentive for the Magic unless they are just trying to clear cap space...which I suppose could be a big possibility.

    If DeRozan doesn't want to hang around the Spurs, he sure as isn't going to want to re-up to waste the rest of his career in Orlando.

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    That's why I don't see the incentive for the Magic unless they are just trying to clear cap space...which I suppose could be a big possibility.

    If DeRozan doesn't want to hang around the Spurs, he sure as isn't going to want to re-up to waste the rest of his career in Orlando.
    Unless they would max him 4 years as opposed to our 2 year max?

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    Look in the mirror buddy.

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    Unless they would max him 4 years as opposed to our 2 year max?
    True.

    And as we've seen, players can always grab that bag, then turn around and demand a trade later.

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    Unless they would max him 4 years as opposed to our 2 year max?
    The incentive for Demar would be money and being on an eastern conference team.

    The incentive for the Magic is a “big three” of Issac, Vucevic, and DeRozan. If healthy that team would be a playoff team and possibly a second round playoff team. Something they haven’t been able to achieve since Dwight Howard left in 2009.

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