NBA Trade Deadline: 2020-21 Season

[Dejounte]

Kawhi said that he wanted to play with the Spurs for his entire career in March of 2018, and demanded a trade in July. Players say things sometimes. Still not entirely convinced.

as usual you are reading too much into this. David West and Zaza almost threw punches only to play together the following season

Does Woj saying it still not convince y'all?

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

From my Magic guy:

If ATL decides to go big then he thinks DDR would emerge as their 1st choice as he can bridge gap as Hunter develops offensively. Also appears Hawks have come around to matching any offer for Collins and moving other player(s) to manage cap space. Sounds like at this time GM is winning argument, but as they have gotten no where in discussing some smaller deals for immediate help it increases chance ownership steps in. GM would prefer to make deal for Olidipo but Rockets wanting too much and Hawks FO isn't that high him but feel he is a good fit for right price. There has been unofficial talk between the Hawks & Spurs organizations, sounds like ATL framework for a deal was likely Bodan, Reddish, Okongwu, Rondo for DDR, Walker, Lyles, & 2 picks. I am guessing a bit as he didn't know all players involved but did know it was Bodan+Rondo+prospect(s) for DDR, Walker, and 2 picks. This sounds like a starting point for ATL & not likely would be the deal. He would be surprised if DDR is moved but not shocked. Again watch Gay/Mills, as if one of those move it is highly likely for DDR trade to follow. Also a posibility of third team getting involved with ATL/SA and Gay being part of the deal.


Sounds like it will take a very rich offer for Magic to move Gordon or Vuc this trade cycle. More likely a smaller deal involving Fournier, Ross, Birch, and/or Bamba.

Also a DDR deal was explored last year involving Fournier, but nothing has been discussed recently. Magic GM loves Derozan and knows him well but not likely to resign with Magic and doesn't see them departing with this year's pick in a deal like that unless top 10 protected. He says as of February Derozan was happy with Spurs and that extension disagreement is more years/option issue than money.

[ceperez]

I could live with this latest musing from Bleacher Report.

Orlando: Derozan

SA: Fournier, Bamba, 2023 2nd Rounder

I'll take it!

[Seventyniner]

From my Magic guy:

If ATL decides to go big then he thinks DDR would emerge as their 1st choice as he can bridge gap as Hunter develops offensively. Also appears Hawks have come around to matching any offer for Collins and moving other player(s) to manage cap space. Sounds like at this time GM is winning argument, but as they have gotten no where in discussing some smaller deals for immediate help it increases chance ownership steps in. GM would prefer to make deal for Olidipo but Rockets wanting too much and Hawks FO isn't that high him but feel he is a good fit for right price. There has been unofficial talk between the Hawks & Spurs organizations, sounds like ATL framework for a deal was likely Bodan, Reddish, Okongwu, Rondo for DDR, Walker, Lyles, & 2 picks. I am guessing a bit as he didn't know all players involved but did know it was Bodan+Rondo+prospect(s) for DDR, Walker, and 2 picks. This sounds like a starting point for ATL & not likely would be the deal. He would be surprised if DDR is moved but not shocked. Again watch Gay/Mills, as if one of those move it is highly likely for DDR trade to follow. Also a posibility of third team getting involved with ATL/SA and Gay being part of the deal.


Sounds like it will take a very rich offer for Magic to move Gordon or Vuc this trade cycle. More likely a smaller deal involving Fournier, Ross, Birch, and/orBamba

The Spurs would give up Walker and 2 picks?! Atlanta is getting the best player in the deal and the Spurs are taking the worst contract (Bogdanovic). If any picks are involved it should be the Hawks giving one to the Spurs, not the other way around.

[BacktoBasics]

From my Magic guy:

If ATL decides to go big then he thinks DDR would emerge as their 1st choice as he can bridge gap as Hunter develops offensively. Also appears Hawks have come around to matching any offer for Collins and moving other player(s) to manage cap space. Sounds like at this time GM is winning argument, but as they have gotten no where in discussing some smaller deals for immediate help it increases chance ownership steps in. GM would prefer to make deal for Olidipo but Rockets wanting too much and Hawks FO isn't that high him but feel he is a good fit for right price. There has been unofficial talk between the Hawks & Spurs organizations, sounds like ATL framework for a deal was likely Bodan, Reddish, Okongwu, Rondo for DDR, Walker, Lyles, & 2 picks. I am guessing a bit as he didn't know all players involved but did know it was Bodan+Rondo+prospect(s) for DDR, Walker, and 2 picks. This sounds like a starting point for ATL & not likely would be the deal. He would be surprised if DDR is moved but not shocked. Again watch Gay/Mills, as if one of those move it is highly likely for DDR trade to follow. Also a posibility of third team getting involved with ATL/SA and Gay being part of the deal.


Sounds like it will take a very rich offer for Magic to move Gordon or Vuc this trade cycle. More likely a smaller deal involving Fournier, Ross, Birch, and/orBamba

Makes no sense for SA. Walker carries more value than any of those mentioned.

[Dejounte]

The Spurs would give up Walker and 2 picks?! Atlanta is getting the best player in the deal and the Spurs are taking the worst contract (Bogdanovic). If any picks are involved it should be the Hawks giving one to the Spurs, not the other way around.

I'm not so attached to the Spurs' picks. I think there's such a thing as too many young players. You're already getting one project from ATL so to me it's as if that was already our first round pick.

[Leetonidas]

Does Woj saying it still not convince y'all?

they're saying that you thinking a minor scuffle in a random regular season game had no impact on his decision, tbh

[RC_Drunkford]

Makes no sense for SA. Walker carries more value than any of those mentioned.

exactly and DeRozan is the best player out of the bunch. The only interesting piece from the Hawks would be Reddish.

Does Woj saying it still not convince y'all?

I was talking about the altercation, not Collins getting traded dummy

[Dejounte]

Makes no sense for SA. Walker carries more value than any of those mentioned.

Does he though? Other than the occasional scoring outburst, he's been very underwhelming as a 3rd year player. Not saying he's a throw in to this trade, but I think when you consider what you're getting back it could look like a fair deal.

[Degoat]

Not to be a Debbie downer, but I can’t see the spurs doing anything. No way they do a multiplayer trade. Really disappointed we werent able to find a trade for LMA

[Dejounte]

they're saying that you thinking a minor scuffle in a random regular season game had no impact on his decision, tbh

exactly and DeRozan is the best player out of the bunch. The only interesting piece from the Hawks would be Reddish.



I was talking about the altercation, not Collins getting traded dummy

Ah, well my bad. Didn't think that post would be taken serious.

[Degoat]

I think I would rather had Cam Reddish over Lonnie...

[Dejounte]

Not to be a Debbie downer, but I can’t see the spurs doing anything. No way they do a multiplayer trade. Really disappointed we werent able to find a trade for LMA

Do you think Drummond is a better player than LMA?

[PhantomDashCam]

It’s funny how ATL trades seems to be linked to everyone bar John Collins now. Winning truly does cure all ills.

If they had of just drafted Haliburton in the first place. The fit was evident.

Are they really open to trading OO already?

Guess we’ll find out soon enough.

[spurraider21]

Collins has said he wants to stay in ATL but he also declined a 4/90 extension. it depends if the Hawks are willing to get at/near max territory with him

[YoungbuckMurray]

Part of me is tired of the Spurs being such a first class organization and getting screwed over on the trade market, etc. If nobody wants to trade for LMA I say to with it I’m not buying him out and he can be our backup C. What has being a first class organization and doing right by every player done for this team?

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

Makes no sense for SA. Walker carries more value than any of those mentioned.

I definitely don't think the Spurs would do this or should. I think it is common for these deals to start somewhat lopsided especially when having initial conversations. He was not aware of any official talks between ATL/Spurs. I asked what he considered "official talks" and he said talk between the actual decision makers of the organizations. In this case initial talks have been between an assistant in ATL FO and a consultant for Spurs FO.

[Degoat]

Do you think Drummond is a better player than LMA?

Idk I think LMA is probably better but I maybe being bias. I think Drummond adds some value too, neither guy should be bought out imo

[Dejounte]

Idk I think LMA is probably better but I maybe being bias. I think Drummond adds some value too, neither guy should be bought out imo

I'm just saying...

The logic here is if you think Drummond is a better player than LMA and if he's headed for a buyout also,

Then,

It is less about the Spurs' inability to find a trade for LMA, and more that the trade market isn't great for players like LMA, Drummond.

[Degoat]

I'm just saying...

The logic here is if you think Drummond is a better player than LMA and if he's headed for a buyout also,

Then,

It is less about the Spurs' inability to find a trade for LMA, and more that the trade market isn't great for players like LMA, Drummond.

For sure I know what you’re saying, for me it’s more of a frustration that spurs didnt foresee LMAs decline and not moving on from him before now too. Like the spurs wait until the absolute last season before they move on from a guy

[JuneJive]

He says as of February Derozan was happy with Spurs and that extension disagreement is more years/option issue than money.

Ugh. Please don't extend him.

[Mr. Body]

I think I would rather had Cam Reddish over Lonnie...

Wow. I'm not sure I'd take Cam Reddish for free.

[Maddog]

Collins has said he wants to stay in ATL but he also declined a 4/90 extension. it depends if the Hawks are willing to get at/near max territory with him

Collins is a gamble
There was a really good article in the ringer that I posted earlier about the pros and cons of maxing him out.
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/3...trade-deadline

I doubt anything happens Spurs wise. What the Spurs have to offer is all that exciting and what they would get in return seems risky

I like the
Orlando: Derozan
SA: Fournier, Bamba, 2023 2nd Rounder
Can almost see that one- however it's really a wash. Fournier will be gone next year and 2nd round picks are not worht a lot and Bamba has been a bust- that said you at least get a year to look at a high draft pick to see i you can salvage something.
Not entirely sure what Orlando get's out of it if DDR isn't willing to sign

[Dejounte]

Wow. I'm not sure I'd take Cam Reddish for free.

Let's face it. With your post history: You'd take nobody for free. Not even Doncic. You think Spurs players are worth more than LeBron James.

[Degoat]

Wow. I'm not sure I'd take Cam Reddish for free.

we need a big long Wing like Reddish, we have DWhite and Vassell to replace Lonnie minutes