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    He's not consistent which is the point. You wouldn't know an idiot if one inhabited your body.
    No, your too stupid to understand that he's never treated "everyone" the same. He rode Tony Parker like a damn show pony (if that is what you do with them), Danny Green & Lonnie Walker too.

    He didn't ride hothead like Jackson as hard or a terrible defender like Belinelli. See, examples of how he treated players differently, but you'll just lose respect for him for being a "hypocrite" (as if that take away from any of his success).

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    It isn't about "rewarding him" and everything about moving on and looking for something that could conceivably help. They have a empty roster spot that they're unwilling (apparently) to fill and are down another with Aldridge.

    Dennis Rodman did the Spurs 1,000 times worse and the team "rewarded him" by sending him the the Bulls. Players (and organizations) do this all the time whether right or wrong, so the Spurs need to wipe the pie off their face and look for something that could help.
    The Rodman move was ridiculous at the time and everyone with a clue knew it. It guaranteed the Bulls a le. People pretend that the Bulls didn't win in the Jordan half-season because he was rusty. No, it was because Grant was gone and they needed a PF.

    There's nobody the Spurs can pick up to make any difference with anything. So if Aldridge shaves $500k off the Spurs tax bill, they're going to sign some great player now? Going to spend the mid-level?

    Of course not. Some nobody big on a 10-day. Not like that player would get minutes over Eubanks anyway.

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    No, your too stupid to understand that he's never treated "everyone" the same. He rode Tony Parker like a damn show pony (if that is what you do with them), Danny Green & Lonnie Walker too.

    He didn't ride hothead like Jackson as hard or a terrible defender like Belinelli. See, examples of how he treated players differently, but you'll just lose respect for him for being a "hypocrite" (as if that take away from any of his success).
    He gets up in everyone's ass. That's what he's known for. But you're too dense to know that each and every mother ing time Pop talks about Timmy, he says thank you to him for letting him coach him like everyone else.

    Every time you hear old spurs interviewed they say Pop would tear into everyone, even Timmy. Of course some get it worse than others -- that's human nature.

    Regardless, he'd have ing benched a DD the millisecond he chucked a ball or pouted and didn't get his ass back on defense. That's not wanting him to be hard on his players. That's wanting a certain level of consistency, of effort, of heart and drive from your players. Old Pop does that every in day. New pop, not so much.

    You repeatedly demonstrate you know about how pop coaches his players if you think Pop didn't give it to every single person he could when he felt it necessary.

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    He gets up in everyone's ass. That's what he's known for. But you're too dense to know that each and every mother ing time Pop talks about Timmy, he says thank you to him for letting him coach him like everyone else.

    Every time you hear old spurs interviewed they say Pop would tear into everyone, even Timmy. Of course some get it worse than others -- that's human nature.

    Regardless, he'd have ing benched a DD the millisecond he chucked a ball or pouted and didn't get his ass back on defense. That's not wanting him to be hard on his players. That's wanting a certain level of consistency from your players. Old Pop does that every in day. New pop, not so much.

    You repeatedly demonstrate you know about how pop coaches his players if you think everyone didn't give it to every single person.
    He didn't, dumbass.

    Did he ride Robert Horry, Avery Johnson, David Robinson as hard as Tony Parker, Danny Green or Lonnie Walker?

    I'll drop it cause you're too dense to understand that he always rode people to different degrees. And obviously, he'd mellow out as he aged unless he wanted to have a heart attack.

    I gave you an example of DeJounte doing the samething and going "unpunished" too. Not sure what lesson a 10+ veteran will be "taught" by benching him.

    Did Pop bench Stephen Jackson and give him a DNP in the playoffs for that "foolish" technical he received in the '13 playoffs (taunting the OKC bench)?

    Seems to me that you just hate DeMar's on - court body language and overly emotional "tirades," but expect Pop to coach it out of him when he's been in the league for 10+ years.

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    Hilarious that people want Pop/the organization to adapt to the "modern Black athlete" but in the same breath bench our best offensive player (cause he's too emotional).

    That would really send a good message to other Black players outside the team.....

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    He didn't, dumbass.

    Did he ride Robert Horry, Avery Johnson, David Robinson as hard as Tony Parker, Danny Green or Lonnie Walker?

    I'll drop it cause you're too dense to understand that he always rode people to different degrees. And obviously, he'd mellow out as he aged unless he wanted to have a heart attack.

    I gave you an example of DeJounte doing the samething and going "unpunished" too. Not sure what lesson a 10+ veteran will be "taught" by benching him.

    Did Pop bench Stephen Jackson and give him a DNP in the playoffs for that "foolish" technical he received in the '13 playoffs (taunting the OKC bench)?

    Seems to me that you just hate DeMar's on - court body language and overly emotional "tirades," but expect Pop to coach it out of him when he's been in the league for 10+ years.
    Omg!?! Ppl used to say Danny Green was his whipping boy. He kicked Jackson off the team. Jackson has unabashedly talked about Pop riding him. You seem oblivious to Pop and his old characteristics.

    You clearly don't follow spurs content because you're demonstrating sheer ignorance of the reality.

    Ppl here can set you straight.

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    Omg!?! Ppl used to say Danny Green was his whipping boy.

    You clearly don't follow spurs content because you're demonstrating sheer ignorance of the reality.

    Ppl here can set you straight.
    What?! When did I say that he didn't ride Danny hard? He rides Lonnie as hard as he did Danny and nearly as hard as he did Tony. Anyway, there are different degrees and ways you approach different personalities and Pop knows that.

    He dumped Jackson for being unwilling to accept a lesser role (kind of like Aldridge), not for any of his antics during the ' 12 WCF.

    The days of "benching" your best player for punting a ball (which DeJounte also did, LOL) are over. I even said modern players need to be coddled more (DeMar is one of those types), but you want Pop to scream in his face and bench him like he's 19 - year old rookie.

    I think you took that he "screams at Timmy, so he'll scream at everyone" stuff too literally. Obviously, he knew who to go really hard and who not to.

    I've been following the team for nearly 30 years, so I don't think I need anyone to "smarten me up." Thanks....
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    The other kicker on what makes Aldridge a supreme quitter: The Spurs were a likely playoff team if Aldridge decided to play hard.

    It's nothing like Drummond in Cleveland or Griffen in Detroit. Lottery teams where it was time to move on.

    Spurs were playoff bound in the west and Aldridge still quit. I'd understand if the Spurs had been 11-14th all season. Sure, buy him out, no playoffs anyway. But he was sabotaging a playoff team.

    Sad way to pay back a franchise that gave him a retired number and an extension.

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    The other kicker on what makes Aldridge a supreme quitter: The Spurs were a likely playoff team if Aldridge decided to play hard.

    It's nothing like Drummond in Cleveland or Griffen in Detroit. Lottery teams where it was time to move on.

    Spurs were playoff bound in the west and Aldridge still quit. I'd understand if the Spurs had been 11-14th all season. Sure, buy him out, no playoffs anyway. But he was sabotaging a playoff team.

    Sad way to pay back a franchise that gave him a retired number and an extension.
    This is the same guy that asked for a trade because he wasn't getting his touches on a team that made the conference finals. He's always been a loser, even before he put on that Spurs jersey. I remember Tiago locking him up in the 2014 playoffs. Could never take him seriously as a 1st option star after that.

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    The Spurs are the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

    Did people only become a fan of the Spurs because of all the winning that happened behind Tim Duncan?

    If so, there's plenty of other legendary players they can follow... LeBron James, for one. Attaching yourself to a team that has stuck by its principles and then acting shocked for it is strange. Why continue?
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    Don't players in Europe have buyouts paid for by the player and the team (other Euro team or NBA team) that wants to sign them. That would be a nice rule in the NBA but I'm sure the players association would whine all day and night about that rule. A lot of buyout players come across as real greedy when they get paid for doing absolutely nothing.

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    Wah, wah, wah.....

    The guy was still a serviceable player until this season and the thought was that he'd "age well" with his added three - point shot.

    He fell off a cliff defensively, rebounding and effort wise and hindsight tells us they "held on too long." Oh well, again, reality tells us that happens often in sports and with star (or former star) talent.

    You'll still cry and whine no matter how reality actually works, but that is has been your M.O. since forever even in the "salad days."
    He was 35 and obviously liable to fall off a cliff anytime. There was signs/slippage last season.

    All your apologist ass does is whine and make excuses while bowing down at PATFO's altar because of 5 rings. As if that gives them a lifetime pass to continue to do stupid, negligent things that anyone with a brain doesn't need hindsight to realize.

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    He was 35 and obviously liable to fall off a cliff anytime. There was signs/slippage last season.

    All your apologist ass does is whine and make excuses while bowing down at PATFO's altar because of 5 rings. As if that gives them a lifetime pass to continue to do stupid, negligent things that anyone with a brain doesn't need hindsight to realize.
    Get over it, man. All you've ever done is complain, and whine. Even when the Big 3 was here you'd refer to them as "Gutless Worms" & other such nonsense.

    There are a lot factors to why they won't or can't move their assets, but you've ignored me stating them repeatedly.

    Just keep whining, man....

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    The other kicker on what makes Aldridge a supreme quitter: The Spurs were a likely playoff team if Aldridge decided to play hard.

    It's nothing like Drummond in Cleveland or Griffen in Detroit. Lottery teams where it was time to move on.

    Spurs were playoff bound in the west and Aldridge still quit. I'd understand if the Spurs had been 11-14th all season. Sure, buy him out, no playoffs anyway. But he was sabotaging a playoff team.

    Sad way to pay back a franchise that gave him a retired number and an extension.
    Drummond was healthy, willing to play and wanting to help them maintain or gain a playoff spot. Instead, Cleveland sat a healthy, serviceable and productive player with the express purpose of dealing him, but might need to buy him out instead.

    I already stated that Aldridge quit on the team and his teammates, but the Spurs also needed to move on less he starts to become a distraction.

    I guess people wanted the Spurs to fine and suspend Aldridge. While he sits out games and it becomes a national story, then other players' complain about the mistreatment on social media or the national media? The Spurs will (whether right or wrong) always take the perceived "high road" and other similar situations should tell us that.

    I'm not expecting Pop to all of a sudden start slinging mud and "strongly punishing" misbehaving players. That isn't his M.O. and likely never will be...

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    I already stated that Aldridge quit on the team and his teammates, but the Spurs also needed to move on less he starts to become a distraction.
    So how about moving on to this thread?
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    Get over it, man. All you've ever done is complain, and whine. Even when the Big 3 was here you'd refer to them as "Gutless Worms" & other such nonsense.

    There are a lot factors to why they won't or can't move their assets, but you've ignored me stating them repeatedly.

    Just keep whining, man....
    I knew you'd try to steer this into the gutter to distract from the fact that there is no defense for it coming to this with Aldridge and that it's another embarrassing episode for them. Deal with it.

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    I knew you'd try to steer this into the gutter to distract from the fact that there is no defense for it coming to this with Aldridge and that it's another embarrassing episode for them. Deal with it.
    Three buyouts in three consecutive years is a real bad look for the FO.

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    I knew you'd try to steer this into the gutter to distract from the fact that there is no defense for it coming to this with Aldridge and that it's another embarrassing episode for them. Deal with it.
    All I picture is you crying to yourself. They were "embarrassed" to buy - out the contract just like Cleveland, Detroit, etc.

    Three buyouts in three consecutive years is a real bad look for the FO.
    This is the second year for them consecutively for something that routinely and annually happens.

    My apologies, you were correct and I was wrong forgetting that they've bought out Gasol, Carroll and now Aldridge in successive seasons.

    This is literally how bad and/or mediocre teams operate but y'all acting like it's brand new.

    It also indicates that they need to stop signing past their prime talent, hoping they can squeeze more productivity out of them. Hopefully they don't re - sign Mills or Gay and end up with buyer's remorse later on.

    Them not filling the roster spot (they likely won't) is actually shameful and signals that the Holt family isn't in it to improve (quickly) or win.
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    Imagine being LaMarcus Aldridge on a lottery team and the headcoach tells you that he prefers to start a volleyball player over you while contenders like the Lakers and Heat offer you a starting gig. I would leave immediately too

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    Imagine being LaMarcus Aldridge on a lottery team and the headcoach tells you that he prefers to start a volleyball player over you while contenders like the Lakers and Heat offer you a starting gig. I would leave immediately too
    Avg 4.5 rebs at 26mins, as a starting center with a 6ft6 pf next to you, is a disgrace.

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    All I picture is you crying to yourself. They were "embarrassed" to buy - out the contract just like Cleveland, Detroit, etc.
    Either more spin to attempt to shield your beloved PATFO, poor reading comprehension or both.

    I said, there's no reason it should have come to this with Aldridge; this could have easily been handled in the off season or preferably the previous season's trade deadline.

    Drummond made even more and Griffin made way more than either for multi years, plus had fallen even further than Aldridge due to injury.

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    The other kicker on what makes Aldridge a supreme quitter: The Spurs were a likely playoff team if Aldridge decided to play hard.

    It's nothing like Drummond in Cleveland or Griffen in Detroit. Lottery teams where it was time to move on.

    Spurs were playoff bound in the west and Aldridge still quit. I'd understand if the Spurs had been 11-14th all season. Sure, buy him out, no playoffs anyway. But he was sabotaging a playoff team.

    Sad way to pay back a franchise that gave him a retired number and an extension.
    Dude's poor little ego couldn't handle coming off the bench, despite the fact that he was getting wrecked on a nightly basis against other starting lineups.

    The more this buyout settles in, the less sympathy I have for Aldridge. He gave us a few good years but was a constant prima donna, then basically said "aight I'm out"

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    This is the same guy that asked for a trade because he wasn't getting his touches on a team that made the conference finals. He's always been a loser, even before he put on that Spurs jersey. I remember Tiago locking him up in the 2014 playoffs. Could never take him seriously as a 1st option star after that.
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    Either more spin to attempt to shield your beloved PATFO, poor reading comprehension or both.

    I said, there's no reason it should have come to this with Aldridge; this could have easily been handled in the off season or preferably the previous season's trade deadline.

    Drummond made even more and Griffin made way more than either for multi years, plus had fallen even further than Aldridge due to injury.
    Blah, blah, blah....

    Similar scenarios (of course the situations aren't 1:1), but here you are making excuses why they're different.

    Again, they were under the (false) impression they could squeeze more productivity out of him, but he clearly didn't feel motivated to stay. He also clearly bulked at coming off the bench behind Poeltl. It sucks, he sucks and it sucks they team couldn't find any deal for him. Oh well....

    He's gone, now, the team needs to move on and make smarter decisions, period. I'm sure you'll be crying about this sometime next year just like you still cry about "s bag" ditching us.

    I'm done with you and your negativity and constant whining. Go yell at your TV screen whenever Pop, Nephew or Aldridge appear....

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    Blah, blah, blah....

    Similar scenarios (of course the situations aren't 1:1), but here you are making excuses why they're different.

    Again, they were under the (false) impression they could squeeze more productivity out of him, but he clearly didn't feel motivated to stay. He also clearly bulked at coming off the bench behind Poeltl. It sucks, he sucks and it sucks they team couldn't find any deal for him. Oh well....

    He's gone, now, the team needs to move on and make smarter decisions, period. I'm sure you'll be crying about this sometime next year just like you still cry about "s bag" ditching us.

    I'm done with you and your negativity and constant whining. Go yell at your TV screen whenever Pop, Nephew or Aldridge appear....
    So it's okay when you say it, but it's the end of the world when I do.

    Again, poor reading comprehension. It was never about S bag "ditching us", it was about how he went about it, which destroyed his value and set the franchise back years. Had he been a professional and allowed them to max out, I'd have been cool with it.

    That's funny coming from the ranting, raving lunatic apologist.

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