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Doesn't matter, imo.
An organization with a bunch of "freedom" thats run by the players doesn't really work anywhere except big markets. The best approach in San Antonio is still the "culture" route, even if it has its flaws.
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"And then I think it's also going to be fun. You know, you're like playing with all these guys who are your boys, you're the same era. I'm sure, being with all those young guys. And also, playing in the Spurs organization and this is with sincere respect because they've had a lot of success, but I think for veterans guys, it can wear on you. A lot of the Kumbaya stuff that they do, you know. So, maybe he (Aldridge) knows there's a lot more freedom and a lot more fun that's going to take place in Brooklyn."
Same stuff we've heard from Jackson, S bag, Green, Barnes, etc. in recent years. But hey, they won the Dieng sweepstakes, so all is well.
Doesn't matter, imo.
An organization with a bunch of "freedom" thats run by the players doesn't really work anywhere except big markets. The best approach in San Antonio is still the "culture" route, even if it has its flaws.
I think both of these things can be true:
1) Pop is too controlling.
2) Aldridge, though seemingly a cool dude, is overly sensitive and ultimately hard to be around.
A small market team can't pretend to be a big market team no matter how hard it tries. You hope for a centerpiece humble enough to stay a la Giannis, Lilliard. You may try to cater all you want to these divas but they all still want the same thing = fame and glamour. You don't get that in San Antonio, you never will.
Btw, "Kumbaya stuff"
Things are "free" in Brooklyn because it's a team of en led divas and they have no real culture yet as the entire team was basically assembled in the last year
not really sure what point spears was trying to make here.
I'm sure LMA would have no problems with Pop being controlling if Pop was force feeding him his touches and focusing the offense all around him.
That doesn't even make sense, tbh.
Usually, the complain isPop is too mean for today's player
Too much Kumbaya stuff? So the culture is too nice? Too much togetherness?
I'm not the biggest believer in "culture" making a notable difference but this is a nonsensical argument.
The truth of the matter is players have left small markets for big markets since the dawn of the NBA. That Tim, Tony and Manu didn't want to leave was an aberration. For players who leave the Spurs, since management and ownership are so stable and there's been too much success, the only thing talking heads can point to as a reasonable excuse is something nebulous like culture incompatibility. It doesn't actually mean anything but it sounds like it does.
I suspect what he's getting at is too much corny, non basketball related stuff.
It's not about "leaving small markets", it's about a certain kind of player (of which the majority of the league is comprised of) clearly doesn't want to play here and small, non glamour markets can't afford to cross off avenues to improve.
There is such thing as a middle ground.
Who wouldn't like to just run and chuck some threes
be a big shot in the big apple and have a real shot at a ring
makes sense to me. get em lma. thank you for your service
once again the easy solution is starting the spurs right in the face...........move to austin.........fook san antonio its a boring city
Some men will sell the farm to get a pretty girl without considering she might be a . Then they're left without the girl and the farm.
Other men who even though they might not be perfect, realize who they are and still try to do right by the people they've come into contact with
Great post. You're right 'it makes no sense,' but that will never stop them from babbling.That doesn't even make sense, tbh.
Usually, the complain is
Too much Kumbaya stuff? So the culture is too nice? Too much togetherness?
I'm not the biggest believer in "culture" making a notable difference but this is a nonsensical argument.
The truth of the matter is players have left small markets for big markets since the dawn of the NBA. That Tim, Tony and Manu didn't want to leave was an aberration. For players who leave the Spurs, since management and ownership are so stable and there's been too much success, the only thing talking heads can point to as a reasonable excuse is something nebulous like culture incompatibility. It doesn't actually mean anything but it sounds like it does.
I don't know about "Kumbaya," but I can understand the idea that Pop is too Old School, and that some older & younger players would rather be coached by a personality more like Steve Kerr, Steve Nash, or Mike Budenholzer, rather than a 70-something guy who doesn't shy away from screaming at players like a Drill Sergeant. Pop has had a lot of success and his politics are progressive, but the idea that he's allowed to have temper tantrums because he's the boss is something I can understand might not sit well with some folks. I've been a bar & restaurant manager, and I'd compare it to Gordon Ramsey: he has become very well known and successful, but a lot of people I know in the industry think he is the kind of old fashioned lead Chef who makes kitchens/workplaces toxic, and his approach of having no qualms about screaming at & insulting employees in front of an audience is pretty outdated. I don't put Pop in the same category at Bobby Knight, but I'll always remember what Coach Wooden said, when asked about Knight: "he's a very good coach, but I wouldn't want someone I love to play for him."
everyone here values the team culture but wants to act like it doesn't exist?
young players wanna do their thing / maybe they don't wanna dinners with the entire team, be given books to read, be on a short leash, etc.
you can say some of those things can be positive, and that can be true, but it's not for everyone. spurs are pretty family friendly / tame. also see: lack of urgency / "it's just basketball."
the whole "we want people who are over themselves" is basically the kumbaya comment in it of itself.
GMs in LA, NY, Miami, etc. aren't saying that. even the raps gave kawhi a chance despite the drama that went on.
Yeah, the most important thing for this franchise is going to be picking Pops replacement - We need a proven coach someone who players want to play for and someone who is going to stay with us for the long haul.
Oh look it's OP just whining for the sake of whining
You are the upstairs version of Nathan89
Draft international players who are just happy to be here, tbh. US players are en led s.
I mean Miami is basically Spurs East with all the culture and Kumbaya stuff and that’s where all the “experts” thought Aldridge was going.
I think the Kumbaya comment makes sense. The Spurs have a reputation of being choirboys- over themselves, classyball, no one is above the other. I think Spears is implying that it’s more fun to be on a team where there are cliques (i.e. playing with your buddies). If you’re a veteran you’d rather spend more time with your best friends. That’s a fair argument in today’s NBA, tbh.
I also agree with timvp though, if you’re not in a glamour market you can’t really play that game. You need some kind of foundational “culture” as a selling point to signees, no matter how corny. Grit ‘n Grind, #HeatCulture, We the North, etc.
I don't think that's the problem players have with Pop...it's his arrogance and his short-sightedness when it comes to young players...you don't think Luka is pissed when he gets yelled at or benched, but old guys are allowed to make the same mistakes he has?
In any position of management of people the most important thing is to identify what makes a person react in a positive and effective way. People are different and thus you can't take the same approach with everyone. With Pop, I doubt it's because someone is a vet or a young player, it's more about their personalities. Pop has also been known for being harsher on people he believes can achieve more and have undeveloped talent (Murray), compared to people who are less talented and at their peak however low it might be (Forbes).
Austin is a cool city. But a cool city to us regular folks mostly...the same way Portland is....and Denver (which routinely have trouble recruiting free agents even when they are winning) . Even if the Spurs moved to Austin...its still a small town and not very glamourous. It would still lose out on the big time players that want to play in big time markets.
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