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    You want some numbers?

    #8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH

    According to a study done by Harvard (at the commission of our own government), less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to the National Vaccine Adverse Events Reports System (VAERS) – read page 6 at the link above.

    While the problems with VAERS have not been fixed (as you can read about in this letter to the CDC), at the time of this writing VAERS reports over 2,200 deaths from the current covid vaccines, as well as close to 60,000 adverse reactions.
    “VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021.”
    And those numbers don’t include (what is currently) 578 cases of Bell’s Palsy.
    If those numbers are still only 1% of the total adverse reactions (or .8 to 2% of what this study published recently in the JAMA found), you can do the math, but that equates to somewhere around 110,000 to 220,000 deaths from the vaccines to date, and a ridiculous number of adverse reactions.

    Bet you didn’t see that on the news.

    That death number would currently still be lower than the 424,000 deaths from medical errors that happen every year (which you probably also don’t hear about), but we are not even six months into the rollout of these vaccines yet.
    If you want a deeper dive into the problems with the VAERS reporting system, you can check this out, or check this out.
    But then there’s my next point, which could be argued makes these covid vaccines seem pointless…
    That wasn't the number I asked for.

    Where is that number?

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    Footage of Derp (ChumpDumper) getting crossed over:


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    You want some numbers?

    #8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH

    According to a study done by Harvard (at the commission of our own government), less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to the National Vaccine Adverse Events Reports System (VAERS) – read page 6 at the link above.

    While the problems with VAERS have not been fixed (as you can read about in this letter to the CDC), at the time of this writing VAERS reports over 2,200 deaths from the current covid vaccines, as well as close to 60,000 adverse reactions.
    “VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021.”
    And those numbers don’t include (what is currently) 578 cases of Bell’s Palsy.
    [B]If those numbers are still only 1% of the total adverse reactions (or .8 to 2% of what this study published recently in the JAMA found), you can do the math, but that equates to somewhere around 110,000 to 220,000 deaths from the vaccines to date, and a ridiculous number of adverse reactions.
    False. That study linked clearly states all patients with adverse reactions recovered.

    Results

    Of 64 900 employees who received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, 25 929 (40%) received the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and 38 971 (60%) received the Moderna vaccine. At least 1 symptom survey was completed by 52 805 (81%).

    Acute allergic reactions were reported by 1365 employees overall (2.10% [95% CI, 1.99%-2.22%]), more frequently with the Moderna vaccine compared with Pfizer-BioNTech (2.20% [95% CI, 2.06%-2.35%] vs 1.95% [95% CI, 1.79%-2.13%]; P = .03, Table 1). Anaphylaxis was confirmed in 16 employees (0.025% [95% CI, 0.014%-0.040%]): 7 cases from the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine (0.027% [95% CI, 0.011%-0.056%]) and 9 cases from the Moderna vaccine (0.023% [95% CI, 0.011%-0.044%]) (P = .76).

    Individuals with anaphylaxis were a mean (SD) age of 41 (13) years, and 15 (94%) were female (Table 2); 10 (63%) had a prior allergy history and 5 (31%) had an anaphylaxis history. Mean time to anaphylaxis onset was 17 minutes (SD, 28; range, 1-120). One patient was admitted to intensive care, 9 (56%) received intramuscular epinephrine, and all recovered. Three employees, with prior anaphylaxis history, did not seek care.


    See? This is the problem. You link to real studies you don't read and contradict what you post.

    That makes you both a liar and easily dismissable.

    Wear a mask.

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    https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=CAT&EVENTS=ON&VAX=CO VID19

    This link seems to be very slow to respond. Notice the death rate for these cases is almost 4 percent.

    Search Results: From the 4/8/2021 release of VAERS data:
    Found 68,347 cases where Vaccine is COVID19
    Last edited by Sam da Sham; 04-20-2021 at 03:32 PM.

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    Flu vaccine:
    https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/fi...TS=ON&VAX=FLUX

    Measles vaccine:
    https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/fi...NTS=ON&VAX=MEA

    Pneumococcal vaccine:
    https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/fi...NTS=ON&VAX=PNC

    Rabies vaccine:
    https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/fi...NTS=ON&VAX=RAB

    Rubella vaccine:
    https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/fi...NTS=ON&VAX=RUB

    I mean, if we're looking at death or permanent disability (the rest means the person recovered), it's right in line with most other vaccines...

    Wear a mask.

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    False. That study linked clearly states all patients with adverse reactions recovered.

    Results

    Individuals with anaphylaxis were a mean (SD) age of 41 (13) years, and 15 (94%) were female (Table 2); 10 (63%) had a prior allergy history and 5 (31%) had an anaphylaxis history. Mean time to anaphylaxis onset was 17 minutes (SD, 28; range, 1-120). One patient was admitted to intensive care, 9 (56%) received intramuscular epinephrine, and all recovered. Three employees, with prior anaphylaxis history, did not seek care.

    See? This is the problem. You link to real studies you don't read and contradict what you post.
    Wear a mask.
    You misread the studies. Here is a table of 779 cases of vaccine reactions. Notice the death rate of almost 5%

    Search Results
    From the 4/8/2021 release of VAERS data:
    Found 779 cases where Vaccine is MEA - Table

    Event Outcome Count Percent
    Death 38 4.88%
    Permanent Disability 27 3.47%
    Emergency Room 242 31.07%
    Hospitalized 124 15.92%
    Event Outcome Count Percent
    Death 38 4.88%
    Permanent Disability 27 3.47%
    Emergency Room 242 31.07%
    Hospitalized 124 15.92%
    Hospitalized, Prolonged 11 1.41%
    Recovered 322 41.34%
    Life Threatening 15 1.93%
    Not Serious 212 27.21%
    TOTAL † 991 † 127.21%
    † Because some cases have multiple vaccinations and symptoms, a single case can account for multiple entries in this table. This is the reason why the Total Count is greater than 779 (the number of cases found), and the Total Percentage is greater than 100.
    Last edited by Sam da Sham; 04-20-2021 at 03:21 PM.

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    You misread the studies. I tried to provide you with a link to proof but it seems to be non-responsive (and your links too) We'll wait and see if the links correct themselves.
    No I did not. I actually quoted the study you linked.

    Furthermore, there's a bigger problem with that post, which is pretty obvious to anybody with an ounce of critical thinking skills:

    The first thing it does is undermine it's own source. If we take on it's face the claim that only 1% of adverse effects are reported to VAERS, that only means the VAERS data is unreliable to make a statistical projection from it, which is exactly what the author does right afterwards.

    This is statistics 101. If you ask 100 random people who's gay and then try to extrapolate that number to the entirety of the US population (300+ million), then you're going to get very poor results.

    Add that the absence of evidence is not evidence either.

    But the goal of that post is to link a few actual science studies to pretend to give some sort of scientific background to the conclusions of it, and it fails spectacularly at it as well.

    So, use your head, and wear a mask.

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    Sam = cosmored = fat Freddy, imo

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    Footage of Sam getting crossed over:

    FIFY

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    No I did not. I actually quoted the study you linked.

    Furthermore, there's a bigger problem with that post, which is pretty obvious to anybody with an ounce of critical thinking skills:

    The first thing it does is undermine it's own source. If we take on it's face the claim that only 1% of adverse effects are reported to VAERS, that only means the VAERS data is unreliable to make a statistical projection from it, which is exactly what the author does right afterwards.

    This is statistics 101. If you ask 100 random people who's gay and then try to extrapolate that number to the entirety of the US population (300+ million), then you're going to get very poor results.

    Add that the absence of evidence is not evidence either.

    But the goal of that post is to link a few actual science studies to pretend to give some sort of scientific background to the conclusions of it, and it fails spectacularly at it as well.

    So, use your head, and wear a mask.

    Ya know, Nono, yer not as dumb as I originally thought. I mean, with all yer spamming of poor ole' Cosmo I thought there must be something wrong with you, but you seem to be actually somewhat intelligent.

    I agree that the studies are not perfect, but if you have links to better data, feel free to post the links.


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    Ya know, Nono, yer not as dumb as I originally thought. I mean, with all yer spamming of poor ole' Cosmo I thought there must be something wrong with you, but you seem to be actually somewhat intelligent.

    I agree that the studies are not perfect, but if you have links to better data, feel free to post the links.
    Mental illness is a serious thing.

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    Mental illness is a serious thing.
    Right. Get help, derp.

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    Ya know, Nono, yer not as dumb as I originally thought. I mean, with all yer spamming of poor ole' Cosmo I thought there must be something wrong with you, but you seem to be actually somewhat intelligent.
    I'm not here for your or anybody else's validation and I value my time. So, Cosmo and you will continue to receive garbage when you post garbage. I mean, it's only fair.

    Wear a mask.

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    Mental illness is a serious thing.
    You should take your own advice, tbh

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    I NEED FRIENDS (BADLY)
    F.I.

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    You should take your own advice, tbh
    I'm not a serial spam bomber like you. I hope you get help with your mental illness.

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    I'm not a serial spam bomber

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    Derps lashing out.

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    I'm not a serial spam bomber like you. I hope you get help with your mental illness.

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    India’s Health Ambassador & Tamil Actor Vivek Dies One Day After Taking COVID Vaccine April 17, 2021
    Well known Indian actor and the Tamilnadu state’s ambassador for creating public health messages has passed away a day after he received the COVID-19 vaccine.

    https://greatgameindia.com/india-hea...-dies-vaccine/

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    Hospital vice-president Dr Raju Sivasamy said the sudden attack was due to an acute coronary syndrome with a cardiogenic shock. It was not related to the Covid-19 vaccine he took on Thursday, they said. Test and CT reports showed that he did not have Covid-19. This was the first time that the actor had come to hospital with an attack like this, Dr Sivasamy said. Vivek had a “mild elevated blood pressure.”

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/82111036.cms

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    I'm not a serial spam bomber like you. I hope you get help with your mental illness.
    Lol Gab.com

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    ElNono is probably posting from a place such as this.

    https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=286522
    (excerpt)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    I later learned that this “company” changed its name almost monthly, always using bland names like that which gave no strong impression of what the company actually does. Not too hopeful, I went inside. The interior was equally shabby. There were a few long tables with folding chairs, at which about a dozen people were tapping away on old, beat-up computers.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    If a shill's character seems to change, it's probably because they assigned a new person to that username. Also, several shills can work on the same post.
    Like QAnon?

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    ElNono is probably posting from a place such as this.

    https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=286522
    (excerpt)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    I later learned that this “company” changed its name almost monthly, always using bland names like that which gave no strong impression of what the company actually does. Not too hopeful, I went inside. The interior was equally shabby. There were a few long tables with folding chairs, at which about a dozen people were tapping away on old, beat-up computers.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    If a shill's character seems to change, it's probably because they assigned a new person to that username. Also, several shills can work on the same post.
    Prove it. I'm 100% sure you're full of .

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