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    That thumbs up is bizarre. Why?

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    That thumbs up is bizarre. Why?
    He does the troll thing (and he likes to steal my and spam me with it)

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    He does the troll thing (and he likes to steal my and spam me with it)
    I think it's him sending a message that there is no limit to his shilling.
    Message received. I don't hold him in any regard on political matters at this point.

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    That thumbs up is bizarre. Why?
    He does the troll thing
    Correct. Anything that bothers Qhris is good with me.

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    I think it's him sending a message that there is no limit to his shilling.
    Message received. I don't hold him in any regard on political matters at this point.
    Nobody cares about your feelings, derp. Get the memo already.

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    Macron is still a sellout tho. I sill take Le Pen any day of the week
    of course you would as you like racist candidates but I agree Macron was horrible.

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    absolutely nothing wrong with that tbh

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    I think the song is so forced as to be tortured and stops making sense after two or three verses. No child is going to understand it. Also the minor key never fit the mood of the lyrics in the first place. Just weird all around.

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    I think the song is so forced as to be tortured and stops making sense after two or three verses. No child is going to understand it. Also the minor key never fit the mood of the lyrics in the first place. Just weird all around.
    i actually agree with that after the first 2 verses or w/e. i just dont see it as harmful or anything thats going to destroy civilization lol

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    and what's the problem with that?

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    nobody bats an eye when a parent asks a 5 year old boy if he has a girlfriend at school. that sexualization is ok.

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    nobody bats an eye when a parent asks a 5 year old boy if he has a girlfriend at school. that sexualization is ok.
    One of your better philos, tbh.

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    One of your better philos, tbh.
    its not a philo. its the whole game.

    gay agenda is ruining our children by teaching them men can be with men. they shouldnt be teaching children about sex

    but its ok for schools to talk about mommy and daddy getting married. the notion that LGBT stuff is any more sexual or deviant in nature than basic heterosexual orthodoxy has always been an absurdity

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    nobody bats an eye when a parent asks a 5 year old boy if he has a girlfriend at school. that sexualization is ok.
    Totally the same thing

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    its not a philo. its the whole game.

    gay agenda is ruining our children by teaching them men can be with men. they shouldnt be teaching children about sex

    but its ok for schools to talk about mommy and daddy getting married. the notion that LGBT stuff is any more sexual or deviant in nature than basic heterosexual orthodoxy has always been an absurdity
    Why then are they grouped together like that and the heterosexuals are left out?

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    DMC: "Won't anyone think of the heterosexual children?"

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    Why then are they grouped together like that and the heterosexuals are left out?
    same reason the civil rights movement targeted problems of discriminated minorities. while most of the discourse these days is around trans people and not the "LG" part of LGBT... even those folks are still fighting for basic equal treatment. trump admin took multiple steps to try to get in the way of married gay couples from adopting kids. if im not mistaken the official platform of every state's republican party includes the rollback of gay marriage

    the only right some hetero people are fighting for is the right to not have to deal with people unlike them, which isnt one that deserves political attention
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    same reason the civil rights movement targeted problems of discriminated minorities. while most of the discourse these days is around trans people and not the "LG" part of LGBT... even those folks are still fighting for basic equal treatment. trump admin took multiple steps to try to get in the way of married gay couples from adopting kids. if im not mistaken the official platform of every state's republican party includes the rollback of gay marriage

    the only right some hetero people are fighting for is the right to not have to deal with people unlike them, which isnt one that deserves political attention
    But you're admitting they are not the same. Some hetero people (Christians again) think "living in sin" is bad and that there's simply no way to not be living in sin if someone is laying with a man the way they'd lay with a woman. But for some others it's just gross and perverted to see it. Personally I couldn't care less.

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    But you're admitting they are not the same. Some hetero people (Christians again) think "living in sin" is bad and that there's simply no way to not be living in sin if someone is laying with a man the way they'd lay with a woman. But for some others it's just gross and perverted to see it. Personally I couldn't care less.
    if a christian man thinks its wrong to lay with another man, then he has his right to live his life how he sees fit and he can refuse to lay with another man*

    them not wanting to see it is not something that is politically important any more than a gay guy saying he doesnt want to see a man and woman holding hands in public (when you reach obscenities or pornographic material we have recognized that there are limitations to that kind of expression in public)

    we have some more or less universally shared values... such as that murder, rape, theft, assault are wrong, so we criminalize them. its also noteworthy that a person who does one of those things infringes on the bodily autonomy or property rights of others. 2 consenting adults doing something like getting married does not have a material effect on a third party observer, or at least not an effect that is worth political attention
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    if a christian man thinks its wrong to lay with another man, then he has his right to live his life how he sees fit and he can refuse to lay with another man*
    If Christians thought that way, sure. Muslims are similar. They don't live and let live.
    them not wanting to see it is not something that is politically important any more than a gay guy saying he doesnt want to see a man and woman holding hands in public (when you reach obscenities or pornographic material we have recognized that there are limitations to that kind of expression in public)
    What's obscene differs. Your grandmother would probably find some things to be obscene that you would not.
    we have some more or less universally shared values... such as that murder, rape, theft, assault are wrong, so we criminalize them. its also noteworthy that a person who does one of those things infringes on the bodily autonomy or property rights of others. 2 consenting adults doing something like getting married does not have a material effect on a third party observer, or at least not an effect that is worth political attention
    10 Commandments. It doesn't matter if the was in existence long before any monotheistic religion, the Christians have decided God laid these things on the heart of humans and since we cannot know everything.. well you know. Sodomy is still illegal in some states, probably in Texas actually. Too bad Bogie gets sodomized on the regular here.

    The things that allow society to exist are the universal values. Respecting other people's sexual choices isn't one of those.

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    If Christians thought that way, sure. Muslims are similar. They don't live and let live.
    well, people who are fundamentalists dont. plenty of christians and muslims in the US do live and let live. to the extent they dont, em, their religion is their problem

    What's obscene differs. Your grandmother would probably find some things to be obscene that you would not.
    agree. but we nevertheless have laws re: obscenities

    10 Commandments. It doesn't matter if the was in existence long before any monotheistic religion, the Christians have decided God laid these things on the heart of humans and since we cannot know everything.. well you know. Sodomy is still illegal in some states, probably in Texas actually. Too bad Bogie gets sodomized on the regular here.
    the 10 commandments are far from universal. nobody gives a about graven images, working on the sabbath. adultery isnt generally illegal. respecting one's parents isnt always necessary. but either way, who gives a what christians have decided. we also have a first amendment which prohibits the state from making any respecting an establishment of religion.

    The things that allow society to exist are the universal values. Respecting other people's sexual choices isn't one of those.
    not really. i think there are some basic universal values (no killing, raping, stealing, etc)... but vast majority of laws dont necessarily tie back to them. when slavery was abolished that wasn't a universal value. we have a 14th amendment that says states must give all citizens equal protections under the law, that would presumably include people of different sexual orientations

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