Official San Antonio Spurs 2021 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

[Eaglenole2002]

Jalen Johnson was invited to the NBA draft green room FWIW.

[Mr. Body]

As I previously mentioned, my two main concerns are: perimeter defense and lack of size to be an effective interior defender.

I think I can buy his shot. It looks pure. So if he’s got that down, he’s really only have two things to prove in his career. The second one he really can’t do anything, but the first one he has a chance. Or maybe not if his hips just don’t allow him to. Overall, still a decent prospect even if he doesn’t overcome these things.

Interior defense is a big concern and that's why I think he projects as a four. I believe he'll be better defending in space than some think. Not great out there, but smart with positioning and able to make up for some deficiencies.

[PhantomDashCam]

It’s a joke if you think I go as far back as one year or that it’s as simple of an evaluation of going through very vague attributes of past players. I look at much more data than that. And to have an overly optimistic view of “every player can make it” is just not a realistic point of view when I’ve laid out the percentages of how very few players make it. I deal with data and facts, granted the data always change from year to year and that’s why I say I adjust my analysis every year in an attempt to get closer every year. It’s not always a fresh batch of players every year with no prior experience to learn from. That’s how you always end up with busts and forgetting about them years later. I don’t ever recall you bringing up past players you were wrong about and learning from them. If that’s your approach, then it is what it is. I just don’t think it’s very reliable.

Come on man.
We all have hits and misses. We all have favourites in the draft. We all have guys that we don’t like for one reason or another.
I truly believe stats at junior levels of compe ion are not the be all/end all of prospect determination.

I’m a draft hobbyist. My philosophy is a simple one. BPA.

BPA takes on many forms but for me it’s something like:

Character + Floor/Ceiling projection + Work Ethic + BB IQ + Athletic Profile + Age + Flashes of BBall Brilliance + Elite Skill + NBA role + Position of need. (Weighted probably in that order).

I start by looking at a few mock drafts, read a few prelim. Scouting reports, collate some names then watch some highlight/lowlight packages (where available) of said guys.

I then will try and hunt out some current interviews of said prospects, then BG checks on HS/Intl. history and so on…
I might at best go 40-45 names deep, keep an eye on going mocks - and rinse and repeat.


My 5 guys last year, one per (traditional) position: Kira Lewis, Desmond Bane, Jaden McDaniels, Isaiah Stewart and James Wiseman.

This year: Tre Mann, Jaden Springer, Corey Kispert, JT Thor and Kai Jones.

[duncan2150]

Jalen Johnson was invited to the NBA draft green room FWIW.

Giddey, Kai Jones, Mitc also.

Don't know how they make these invites ?

[The Truth #6]

Another common flaw boards or writers have is not acknowledging their errors of the past.

It’s hard for people to admit when they’re wrong. And I get it, no one wants to be wrong.

I was wrong about Vassell last year and I used that experience to be better this year. You can reflect on such things and adjust how you weigh things. Last year, I was high on players who were big and looked like they had switchability. If I didn’t learn anything from last year, I would be high on Kai this year. I suspect a lot of people who follow the draft don’t keep track of the little things. I’m always about learning from past mistakes. What mistakes in your scouting of prospects did you learn from last year? How can that information shape your assessment of players this year? These are the questions to ask. It’s called growth.

I will probably learn something this year and be wrong about guys like Jaden. I doubt it but we will see. The important thing is being able to learn a lesson from it. It’s not about right or wrong. This isn’t middle school.

GROWTH.

Well said. And Jaden may well suck and not find a position. Challenge for us on a board like this is having to react to so much of the hype coming from the various websites, who all too often fall into group think, and then try to see who for ourselves, from afar, is overlooked and who is overhyped.

[objective]

I like Sengun'e stroke a lot more than Giddy's.

[Dejounte]

Those are some serious players, at least, not like the Klutch Klown Show.

seriously. That Drew Eubanks guy especially. Sengun is in legendary company with him alone.

[The Truth #6]

Re: Sengun and concerns of being a strong enough interior defender.

I don’t think the concern is necessarily overblown, I admit he probably can’t guard Joker or Embiid, but then who can? More importantly, are anchor bigs the dominant trend? Obviously not. I mean, in the playoffs every team goes tiny to get the anchor bigs out of the game. Being 6’9” with a 7’ wingspan might actually be the perfect height and size for a modern big to survive in various environments.

Of the two, I am much more concerned about defending in space then defending down low for the vast majority of situations. He’s a beast on the boards; I think he will play bigger than his size in the paint. He’s seems to be slimming down for mobility. Admittedly, I have no idea how that will go. But he seems super motivated to make drastic adjustments to his game in a short amount of time. I’ll roll with a player like that every single time.

[Dex]

As I previously mentioned, my two main concerns are: perimeter defense and lack of size to be an effective interior defender.

I think I can buy his shot. It looks pure. So if he’s got that down, he’s really only have two things to prove in his career. The second one he really can’t do anything, but the first one he has a chance. Or maybe not if his hips just don’t allow him to. Overall, still a decent prospect even if he doesn’t overcome these things.

I hate these workout videos that have become the trend on Twitter / IG / etc.

If I had a private court to just put up shots with a crew passing me the balls, I could put together a "highlight reel" of me hitting three to four shots in a row and call it a day.

I'd just have to cut out the other 30 minutes of me clanking shots and maybe air-balling a couple.

[slick'81]

I hate these workout videos that have become the trend on Twitter / IG / etc.

If I had a private court to just put up shots with a crew passing me the balls, I could put together a "highlight reel" of me hitting three to four shots in a row and call it a day.

I'd just have to cut out the other 30 minutes of me clanking shots and maybe air-balling a couple.

Yea they mean jack ,but sengun is probably the best four the spurs can get at 12 so i dont mind the hype

[Dejounte]

I hate these workout videos that have become the trend on Twitter / IG / etc.

If I had a private court to just put up shots with a crew passing me the balls, I could put together a "highlight reel" of me hitting three to four shots in a row and call it a day.

I'd just have to cut out the other 30 minutes of me clanking shots and maybe air-balling a couple.

Meh, I’m not really paying attention to anything else but his form. That’s something you can’t really fake. Unless you fake a bad form, then that’s easier.

[Biggems]

Jay Huff worked out for the Spurs per Jeff Garcia.

I like his skill set, he is a bit soft at times. Still, he has a versatile set of skills on both ends. Still, I would not be shocked if he was not drafted.......since, Athletic prowess is in far greater demand than basic skills and fundamentals. If he is not drafted, I want us to get him on the phone immediately once pick 60 comes in and try to sign him.

[Mnky]

I hate these workout videos that have become the trend on Twitter / IG / etc.

If I had a private court to just put up shots with a crew passing me the balls, I could put together a "highlight reel" of me hitting three to four shots in a row and call it a day.

I'd just have to cut out the other 30 minutes of me clanking shots and maybe air-balling a couple.

Those are more about form and mechanics tbh.

[offset formation]

is traveling still a thing or do we just get to run with the ball and take several comfort steps before shooting 3s now?

[Mr. Body]

is traveling still a thing or do we just get to run with the ball and take several comfort steps before shooting 3s now?

Have you not been watching the NBA lately?

[Eaglenole2002]

Keon Johnson with a green room invite.

[PhantomDashCam]

After Booker mugged a guy in the finals and then was whinging about it, claiming it to be a jump ball; I think the rules may be open to interpretation.

In all seriousness though, he was warming up for the event just showing off the dominant athletic gifts.

[Dejounte]

Moody got to second base

You could say it’s getting serious…

[Mr. Body]

Moody got to second base

You could say it’s getting serious…

I feel like GSW is going to come out with two terrific players.

[Uriel]

Did RC make him a promise?

[Mr. Body]

Did RC make him a promise?

no. I hope someone like Sacto pulls the lever on him, but I can see him dropping hard.

[offset formation]

Have you not been watching the NBA lately?

this was harden on steroids

[TD 21]

Interior defense is a big concern and that's why I think he projects as a four. I believe he'll be better defending in space than some think. Not great out there, but smart with positioning and able to make up for some deficiencies.

I realize rim protection will be an issue too, but he's clearly a five. The question is, will he be skilled enough offensively/rebounding wise that he eventually has to be a starter and whoever drafts him prioritizes pairing him with a floor spacing rim protector?

[spurs1990]

Any new rumblings on the Stanford kid being eyed by RC? Keep the Pac10 theme going on the roster

[bluebellmaniac]

13 Days until the Draft!