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    what's the risk?

    what's the benefit?

    show your sums.
    Show us yours

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    I made no claim about risk/benefit of COVID vaccines for <12yo.

    IIRC, those studies are ongoing.

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    Vaccine skeptics and anti-​maskers are sucking down horse paste promoted by Trump's 'alien DNA' doctor

    One of the groups behind the ivermectin craze is America's Frontline Doctors, the Trump-promoted Texas group

    that includes accused Capitol insurrectionist Dr. Simone Gold

    and

    "alien DNA" specialist Dr. Stella Immanuel.

    "Devotees have besieged pharmacists with prescriptions from shady online prescribers, forcing pharmacies to crack down and treat the antiparasitic drugs like opioids,"

    enthusiasts have taken to raiding rural tractor supply stores in search of ivermectin horse paste (packed with 'apple flavor!') and

    weighed the benefits of taking ivermectin 'sheep drench' and a noromectin 'injection for swine and cattle.'"

    FDA, meanwhile, has cautioned people against taking drugs intended for large animals because they are highly concentrated.

    "The irony is, in a severe ivermectin overdose patients will end up needing to be intubated to protect their airway, meanwhile,

    a lot of them are taking the ivermectin to allegedly treat their COVID… to avoid ultimately being intubated and placed on a ventilator,"


    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-bogus-cure

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    And the risk/benefit for this cohort is debatable.
    what's the risk karrin, autism?

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    Vaccine skeptics and anti-​maskers are sucking down horse paste promoted by Trump's 'alien DNA' doctor

    https://covid19criticalcare.com/abou...cc-physicians/

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    New Metric Shows COVID Cut Average Lifespan By Nearly A Decade In Parts Of U.S.


    as COVID-19 peaked in New Jersey in mid-April 2020, the average lifespan in the state plummeted by almost nine years, the most dramatic example from the U.S.

    https://scienceblog.com/524611/new-m...n-parts-of-u-s

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    Lol

    Most hospitals have been caring for the voluntary alcoholics, drug addicts and terrible eaters for centuries.

    But they stopped caring when treating the terrible vaxine hesitant in months


    What a nice fairy tale
    I dont know about the not caring stuff.
    But overwhelmed and burned out...
    Yeah caring for alcoholics and cancer patients is exactly like caring for people with an incredibly transmissible virus, exactly the same. All of the sudden alcoholics and cancer patients are just there in droves for no apparent reason and pass on the alcoholism and cancer to health care workers. Sure thing...

    And there are people who dont care in almost any large profession. But thats different than burned out and overwhelmed in a system that is caring for all forms of nasty stuff trying to get people well. Or save their lives. You go with your "just another day in the office" hater.

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    what's the risk karrin, autism?
    I'm so anti-vax that I got my entire family vaccinated.

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    I'm so anti-vax that I got my entire family vaccinated.
    what's your risk/benefit math for 12yo and under?

    which risks are you weighing?

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    Liberty Counsel Official Calls COVID-19 Vaccines a ‘Crime Against Humanity’

    Liberty Counsel’s Mat Staver is waging a relentless public relations and legal campaign

    against the COVID-19 vaccines and

    against any moves by private or government employers to require employees to be vaccinated.

    https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/liberty-counsel-official-calls-covid-19-vaccines-a-crime-against-humanity/

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    Madison Cawthorn Shows Up at a Local School Hearing and Berates Board Members for Passing a Mask Mandate

    “You have muzzled (parents’) voices just like you have muzzled our children,” Cawthorn said.

    “You passed this mask mandate without input from those who would hold you accountable because you knew it was wrong.

    You knew it would never withstand the scrutiny of the public.

    I’ve witnessed swampy backdoor tactics from corrupt bureaucrats in Washington D.C.,

    but what you have done here today puts that all to shame.”

    “You have sacrificed the social, emotional, and psychological development of our children on the altar of wokeness,”

    Buncombe County has a rolling average of 25 Covid cases per 100,000 people — making it a red zone for Covid transmission

    as defined by the CDC.

    Nonetheless, Cawthorn argued that

    a mask mandate “[flies] in the face of scientific reasoning” and would do more harm than good.

    “Forcing our children to wear masks is nothing short of psychological child abuse,” Cawthorn said. “Period.”

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-madison-cawthorn-shows-up-at-a-local-school-hearing-and-berates-board-members-for-passing-a-mask-mandate/

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    what's your risk/benefit math for 12yo and under?

    which risks are you weighing?
    For my 17 y.o. son, it was myocarditis.

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    For my 17 y.o. son, it was myocarditis.
    can you quantify the risk, or are did pull the judgment from thin air like you do here?

    (that's a deflection, btw.)

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    can you quantify the risk, or are did pull the judgment from thin air like you do here?

    (that's a deflection, btw.)
    Occurring at higher rate than CDC thought.

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2782900

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    can you quantify the risk, or are did pull the judgment from thin air like you do here?

    (that's a deflection, btw.)
    You're such a ing bro.

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    Thanks.

    If you and Darrin were to compare that (and other vacination risks) to the risks of infection for kids under 12yo, you'd have an argument.

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    Thanks.

    If you and Darrin were to compare that (and other vacination risks) to the risks of infection for kids under 12yo, you'd have an argument.

    There's no data on under 12 yet.

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    Thanks.

    If you and Darrin were to compare that (and other vacination risks) to the risks of infection for kids under 12yo, you'd have an argument.
    Risk of death or bad injury from Covid on kids under 12 is tiny.

    Dont just say infection. For most kids this is sniffles

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    There's no data on under 12 yet.
    so then, not even arguable

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    Risk of death or bad injury from Covid on kids under 12 is tiny.

    Dont just say infection. For most kids this is sniffles
    If you can't quantify it and compare to the vacccine risks, you're just spinning your wheels like Darrin.

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    If you can't quantify it and compare to the vacccine risks, you're just spinning your wheels like Darrin.
    You are comparing vaccine risks to risk of "infection only"

    Thats laughable given the fact that 99% of under 12 infected barely have any symptoms

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    You are comparing vaccine risks to risk of "infection only"

    Thats laughable given the fact that 99% of under 12 infected barely have any symptoms
    just spinning your wheels, got it

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    Thanks.

    If you and Darrin were to compare that (and other vacination risks) to the risks of infection for kids under 12yo, you'd have an argument.
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....01.21259785v1

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....07.21259779v1

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....30.21259763v1

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