Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[Blake]

can you summarize the preprints in your own words?.

iTs iN tHeRe yOu fInD iT

[hater]

just spinning your wheels, got it

And youre making silly comparisons. Got it.

[pgardn]

You are comparing vaccine risks to risk of "infection only"

Thats laughable given the fact that 99% of under 12 infected barely have any symptoms

That is absolutely untrue with the DELTA strain.
So you wish to be called names again heater?

It's not yet well understood if the delta variant is more dangerous for young children, or if kids are more susceptible to this strain compared to others who are unvaccinated, but doctors have reported a steady increase of Covid cases in children and medical experts have warned about the ongoing dangers of the virus.

[koriwhat]

Is there a test for the "delta" variant?

[hater]

Average Joe claims to have vaccinated 110% of americans

[koriwhat]

^ No one expects Biden to even know where he is tbh. Everyone clearly sees what a fraud administration this is yet the TDS made all you fools vote for communism to be ushered in slowly or somewhat fast tracked.

[pgardn]

Is there a test for the "delta" variant?

Of course there is.
Its basically same one as the tests for the two other widely spread variants that were most prevalent and the beginning and the middle of this crap. The virus has not changed that much genetically or in its basic proteins. It is still a coronavirus, its still extremely closely related to all the isolated strains. The changes in its mRNA sequence are minor but enough to follow the changes around the world. And apparently the same proteins that were recognized are still recognized by most tests. But all the testing still has some problems like before. And there are still different ways to test for the presence of the virus.

[pgardn]

^ No one expects Biden to even know where he is tbh. Everyone clearly sees what a fraud administration this is yet the TDS made all you fools vote for communism to be ushered in slowly or somewhat fast tracked.

Biden is a communist?
Please define a communist and communism.
He is a conservative democrat. He is not from the raving lunatic fringe of the red team.

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[spurraider21]

Average Joe claims to have vaccinated 110% of americans

probably 350mil shots given

[koriwhat]

Of course there is.
Its basically same one as the tests for the two other widely spread variants that were most prevalent and the beginning and the middle of this crap. The virus has not changed that much genetically or in its basic proteins. It is still a coronavirus, its still extremely closely related to all the isolated strains. The changes in its mRNA sequence are minor but enough to follow the changes around the world. And apparently the same proteins that were recognized are still recognized by most tests. But all the testing still has some problems like before. And there are still different ways to test for the presence of the virus.

Show me proof there's testing for specifically the variants. Not a test that covers everything because those have been around from the get go and they're still the same old tests. I want a test specifically calling out the variants or else it's all lip service in my opinion. Everywhere I read it's said the tests are the same and can't necessarily differentiate and isolate any variants.

Biden is a communist?
Please define a communist and communism.

I'm not playing your games because I've already been down this road and defined it before with others here.

[koriwhat]

probably 350mil shots given

Running cover as usual.

[pgardn]

Average Joe claims to have vaccinated 110% of americans

Oh yes.
The red team made very sure the census was going to be accurate only in being much smaller than it really is.
How can you forget the sham the red team tried to play games with the Census? It was horribly done, cut off early, and is clearly BELOW the actual number of people.

[spurraider21]

Running cover as usual.

quick google search confirmed my guess

[hater]

Show me proof there's testing for specifically the variants. Not a test that covers everything because those have been around from the get go and they're still the same old tests. I want a test specifically calling out the variants or else it's all lip service in my opinion. Everywhere I read it's said the tests are the same and can't necessarily differentiate and isolate any variants.



I'm not playing your games because I've already been down this road and defined it before with others here.

It is the same test.

Regarding variants, I believe they use math to calculate prevalence of which variant. They probably sample a small percentage of all the tests they take. Maybe even 1% and use statistics to calculate the prevalence nationwide.

[hater]

quick google search confirmed my guess

Doesnt make Joe any lesss senile

[pgardn]

Show me proof there's testing for specifically the variants. Not a test that covers everything because those have been around from the get go and they're still the same old tests. I want a test specifically calling out the variants or else it's all lip service in my opinion. Everywhere I read it's said the tests are the same and can't necessarily differentiate and isolate any variants.

This is because you still dont have a clue as to the biology of the coronaviruses. These tests will pick up all the variants. In order to determine exactly what variants we have in a population we take many samples and sequence the RNA. The RNA sequencing shows us that the delta variant is 99% of the current cases. The delta has its own specific sequence that DOES NOT vary in the basic areas of the proteins the tests now test for nor the mRNA sequences test for.

Again, you march headlong into stuff you have no understanding of and sink in the mud.



I'm not playing your games because I've already been down this road and defined it before with others here.

You dont want to go down this road because Joe Biden by any real definition of communism and communist is NOT one.

What is your definition of the word, lets make this easier... the word, YES? What does yes mean, lets start simple so we can see what your new language actually translates to.

[spurraider21]

Doesnt make Joe any lesss senile

im ok with a guy misspeaking and just mixing words here and there. as opposed to claiming you should guzzle clorox and that the virus will magically go away by easter 2020

[ChumpDumper]

Show me proof there's testing for specifically the variants. Not a test that covers everything because those have been around from the get go and they're still the same old tests. I want a test specifically calling out the variants or else it's all lip service in my opinion. Everywhere I read it's said the tests are the same and can't necessarily differentiate and isolate any variants.



I'm not playing your games because I've already been down this road and defined it before with others here.

Running for cover as usual.

[spurraider21]

Show me proof there's testing for specifically the variants. Not a test that covers everything because those have been around from the get go and they're still the same old tests. I want a test specifically calling out the variants or else it's all lip service in my opinion. Everywhere I read it's said the tests are the same and can't necessarily differentiate and isolate any variants.



I'm not playing your games because I've already been down this road and defined it before with others here.

there is a specific test, they run genomic sequencing tests to determine variants. they dont do this for every person's case because it would be expensive and time consuming. but they run them for some sample amounts to get a figure out how widespread it is. right now from those tests its known that delta accounts for something like 80% of cases in the US

[pgardn]

there is a specific test, they run genomic sequencing tests to determine variants. they dont do this for every person's case because it would be expensive and time consuming. but they run them for some sample amounts to get a figure out how widespread it is. right now from those tests its known that delta accounts for something like 80% of cases in the US

Yes.
83% if population who has covid, 97% of severe cases. Slightly diff numbers from diff sources.

[hater]

im ok with a guy misspeaking and just mixing words here and there. as opposed to claiming you should guzzle clorox and that the virus will magically go away by easter 2020

Of course you are ok with old Joe thinking we vaxed more americans than we physically have

This is not surprising at all

[pgardn]

Of course you are ok with old Joe thinking we vaxed more americans than we physically have

This is not surprising at all

So you think the Census is a correct count.

oh and lol....

Knowing how it was carried out you think it was right on or an OVER COUNT.
Seriously?

[hater]

So you think the Census is a correct count.

oh and lol....

Knowing how it was carried out you think it was right on or an OVER COUNT.
Seriously?

Yeah Joe said 350 million because of the census

Idiot

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The Numbers Start to Clarify

. The Israeli health ministry has been placing vaccine efficacy somewhere near 40% against infection – vastly lower than the original clinical trials and much lower than other current measurements.

A UK study in that went through May and was published in The New England Journal of Medicine on July 21st placed efficacy against the Delta variant at 88%, only slightly less than against the Alpha variant.

But yesterday another UK study was released by the Imperial College London which showed substantially reduced efficacy against infection –

though apparently not hospitalization and disease.

This study puts vaccine efficacy against all infection at 49% and

against symptomatic infection at 59%.

At the same time though

efficacy against hospitalization and disease still seems to remain robust, at close to the same levels as the original clinical trials.

That’s obviously great news if you’re main interest is not dying from COVID.

efficacy against infection seems to be decoupling from efficacy against hospitalization and death.

For now it simply seems more clear that efficacy against mild infections is significantly reduced against the Delta variant.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-numbers-start-to-come-into-view