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    Simmons is a massive prima donna and big trouble. Stay far, far away.

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    only the Warriors have the assets to make a trade for him. Simmons is dumb

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    It’s not per realgm, it’s per ESPN

    realgm trying to get hits by posting it. Their article references ESPN. There’s no “scoop” founded by realgm.

    the article by ESPN just says talks have not gone far and that there are varying interests.

    its more ado about nothing

    see how news travels and how information gets ed up? Don’t trust everything you read or listen to without doing proper research.
    Thx for claring that up. I just saw it on real gm and nobody mentioned it here, so I thought I'd share.

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    Knicks have renounced Frank Ntilikina

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    With DJM being a Klutch member that could complicate any pie in the sky trade for BS anyway. Before the draft I was minimally intrigued about the idea, or at least could understand Pop pursuing it because of some possible bond they may have or something random like that, but now? Run!!! Let Morey choke on this debacle.

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    Knicks have renounced Frank Ntilikina
    That’s a player I think the Spurs could have developed nicely. NY was a bad place for him to be.

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    With DJM being a Klutch member that could complicate any pie in the sky trade for BS anyway. Before the draft I was minimally intrigued about the idea, or at least could understand Pop pursuing it because of some possible bond they may have or something random like that, but now? Run!!! Let Morey choke on this debacle.
    I feel eventually they'll try to get Murray out.

    Klutch is a cancer Silver needs to excise from the league.

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    That’s a player I think the Spurs could have developed nicely. NY was a bad place for him to be.
    I like him. Saw him STONE Westchuck and KD in the same game.

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    I feel eventually they'll try to get Murray out.

    Klutch is a cancer Silver needs to excise from the league.
    Why is Klutch a cancer again?

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    I feel eventually they'll try to get Murray out.

    Klutch is a cancer Silver needs to excise from the league.
    I agree on both counts. Klutch may eventually dissolve over time, but unfortunately the legacy will likely continue. Unless Silver drastically reimagines how to market the league (promoting teams instead of players, or just promoting the game itself and get rid of the elitist superstar hierarchy), then I’m not sure how the NBA recaptures its legitimacy. They should learn from FIBA and the Olympic games, but that seems like a huge reach in imagination for Silver.

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    Why is Klutch a cancer again?
    Flip it around. Try to explain how they are good for the league. The superstar dictating roster changes. It kills small markets. I hate the owners too. But it’s fans who get screwed.

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    "BenSimmons is open to being traded to the #Clippers, #Lakers or #Warriors, per Jason Dumas."

    unexpected destinations
    Yeah the way this is playing out, I’m less enthusiastic about going after him with all the sideshow. Still triggered by Leonard experience.

    That said, would be interested in being part of the trade for other pieces. You can see the salary matching foundation there, but obviously with major fighting about who sends what assets out still to be figured out:

    GSW: Simmons (~30M)
    Spurs: Wiggins (~30M)
    Philly: Thad + White/Murray (~30M)
    Bulls: DeRozen (~28M)
    Last edited by CGD; 08-11-2021 at 02:33 PM.

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    "BenSimmons is open to being traded to the #Clippers, #Lakers or #Warriors, per Jason Dumas."

    unexpected destinations
    Simmons has 4 years on his contract. He doesn't have much leverage. If Philly trades him to a noncalifornia team, well, he can sit out, etc, but that will cost him his money. It's too long of a contract to play the "I won't re-sign game." He'll play where Philly sends him eventually.

    That said, I hope they don't send him to SA. Too much the diva.

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    Why is Klutch a cancer again?
    Are you serious?

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    I like him. Saw him STONE Westchuck and KD in the same game.
    His stats look like Bizarro Forbes. Career TS% of 0.454. Putrid on offense.

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    Hate it if you will but Klutch looks out for its players tbh… fans may not like it but they get they’re players paid and they get them to where they want to play. Look at Dennis Schroder dumbass agent that turned down 84 million or Lauri Markkanen Agent who blew his load.

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    Flip it around. Try to explain how they are good for the league. The superstar dictating roster changes. It kills small markets. I hate the owners too. But it’s fans who get screwed.
    Not just the fans, the game itself. I mean does anyone really want to see that Lakers team win? That’s NBA 2K21 sh%t

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    Simmons is a massive prima donna and big trouble. Stay far, far away.
    And usually those guys can at least shoot.

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    His stats look like Bizarro Forbes. Career TS% of 0.454. Putrid on offense.
    Yea, he’s kind of like Thybulle, with handles and vision. He did shoot a ridiculous 48% from beyond the arc this year, but it was only 33 games, and 1.5 attempts. He hardly shot any 2s this year, so maybe his role is spot up shooter/Bowen clone? He just turned 23.

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    BS is already semi-retired it feels like. Has questionable love for the game. Won’t adapt. Already has a Kardashian. I don’t see the Spurs fitting into this picture.

    Reminds me of Rodman.

    Jock is his Haley. Kardashian instead of Madona. Not happening unless Pop really has some great connection drinking Australian syrahh with him, or something.

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    DD trade officially complete. Havent seen if any details of the official trade have been changed from the original report or not yet

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    Actually I am. Scott Boras has been known to do whatever it takes to look out for his clients and they prosper no matter how hard he makes it on the teams..it’s just negotiating homie! Don’t make to much out of it, it’s just business. I actually like having diversity in the market place.

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    Actually I am. Scott Boras has been known to do whatever it takes to look out for his clients and they prosper no matter how hard he makes it on the teams..it’s just negotiating homie! Don’t make to much out of it, it’s just business. I actually like having diversity in the market place.
    Basically because LeBron's close friend, Rich Paul, is in charge of it, and most of LeBron's close friends or teammates tend to be Klutch clients, and they tend to get to where they want to go more often than not

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    Actually I am. Scott Boras has been known to do whatever it takes to look out for his clients and they prosper no matter how hard he makes it on the teams..it’s just negotiating homie! Don’t make to much out of it, it’s just business. I actually like having diversity in the market place.
    Basically because LeBron's close friend, Rich Paul, is in charge of it, and most of LeBron's close friends or teammates tend to be Klutch clients, and they tend to get to where they want to go more often than not

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    Hate it if you will but Klutch looks out for its players tbh… fans may not like it but they get they’re players paid and they get them to where they want to play. Look at Dennis Schroder dumbass agent that turned down 84 million or Lauri Markkanen Agent who blew his load.
    That’s a fair point but there’s clearly a league problem when players and agents are building teams not your leagues franchises.

    Athlete representatives are important but when they hold all the power it becomes destructive. Look no further than the complete downfall of boxing vs mma. MMA has thrived because of the system… and yes I know ufc s on their fighters but there should be some middle ground between the disaster of boxing and the mistreatment of ufc fighters.

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