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Kawhi wouldn’t have been there in 2019. He walked away from a ring team, and would have left Philly, too.
Philly has to be kicking themselves over that one. With Number Two on the Sixers instead of the Raps, and if GS has as bad of injury luck, they probably ring in 2019.
Now they will be lucky to get a Number Two-like deal for Simmons imo because Simmons is a worse player.
Kawhi wouldn’t have been there in 2019. He walked away from a ring team, and would have left Philly, too.
You're talking about 19-20; 79er is talking about 18-19.
There was interest on Simmons then. It's just a matter of time
OK, then he still would have left if they won. History’s on my side. Both Boston and Philly were smart not to bite.
Report: Spurs were open to discussing Dejounte Murray, Lonnie Walker IV in a deal for Sixers' Ben Simmons
https://www.kens5.com/article/sports...4-b43f09348164
A one year loaner was a gamble and hard to bite, but it worked out for Ujiri despite losing Kawhi the following year. He helped deliver a championship to Canada. That’s the bottomline. The Sixers haven’t been in the big dance for over 3 decades. The hurdle was the inclusion of Simmons. Knowing what we know now, they would lose Simmons anyway, I think that was a risk they could’ve taken. The rare chance of getting into the Finals. And who knows with what happened to the Dubs? I think that was the point. And you said, “If they won.” Bruh, I wouldn’t mind him leaving. I got my championship.
No they weren't. Toronto definitely feel better about their decision than those teams were. They made an understandable decision at the time, but history says they ended up being wrong.
Had Sixers won after over three decades? Heck they would’ve been ecstatic. I don’t blame the Celtics who were just there some years back. But the Sixers? To be able to hoist that Larry O’Brien?
Still pretending the lucky ass Raptors championship wasn't tainted, that they "gambled", that their trash was comparable to the 76ers and Celtics having to trade Simmons or Brown respectively or that the latters rosters were comparable to the formers, which fit snugly in a myriad of ways (depth, experience, pecking order, urgency, etc.).
Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable saying Philly with Leonard instead of Simmons was better than Toronto that year. Philly also had the non-Simmons assets to trade for Butler and Harris that same year Boston had Kyrie, Hayward, Tatum, Smart and Horford. You're barking up the wrong tree saying that Toronto was the only team that would've been le favorites after a Leonard trade.
The 76ers would have had to overcome a likely tug-of-war between two disparate personalities as to who the go-to guy was between Embiid and S bag, a lack of veteran leadership/experience, no lead play maker or starting caliber PG in general (maybe the Butler and/or Harris assets go for that instead, but we don't know who that would have been), a defensive liability for a fourth best player (Re ) and an overall lack of depth.
Anyway, the point was moreso trading a then 22 year old Simmons for one season of S bag would have been extremely tough to do and is not comparable to the Raptors, who didn't have a difficult decision to make.
I wouldn't even trade White for Simmons.. This man can't and won't learn how to shot.
I'd trade any combination of Spurs players, bar Keldon perhaps, for Simmons - but not picks. Not sure he'd make the team that much better even if he buys in. Nor do I believe Chip will miraculously make him a good shooter. If there's a chance to roll the dice it's defensible that they do it and see what happens, however, keep those picks in the likely case it doesn't go that well. You trade your picks away for a 3rd star, not for the first one.
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