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People talking about Thad getting traded...who would want Thad Young ? Even if he does you not getting anything more than a 2nd round pick and maybe a young player who is on the verge of washing out of the league for him.
The conservative way is to let Primo develop in Austin. But it would be great if Pop would take a chance, 1st coming off the bench and slowly insert him in the starting lineup in the SG position next to Murray. DJ seems to have a liking for the kid and could take him on his wing. Primo looks like he belongs out there.
People talking about Thad getting traded...who would want Thad Young ? Even if he does you not getting anything more than a 2nd round pick and maybe a young player who is on the verge of washing out of the league for him.
Thanks as always OP.
There may be a trade for Thad Young and perhaps someone else, but if there aren’t any trades, it’s probably Aminu and one of KBD or Luka.
Of the last two, it’s probably going to be KBD, but he was brought in specifically to compete with Samanic, which shows us that Luka is on thin ground. I think at this point he’s a deep bench player that you keep because he’s still young and may develop but he’s looking increasingly like injury insurance and a practice body.
Primo playing like that off the rip tells me everything I already knew about "pundits" and the IQ of the people on this board.
He'd instantly upgrade Phoenix's front court. Might not be a stretch to say if they had him last year, they might have won a chip. He's down low very productive and a great vet.
One wonders if Primo could be a top rookie in the conversation for first team all rookie and even rookie of the year if he didn’t get the mandatory GLeague get over yourself treatment. Thanks for the report. I am curious about Giddey and was pleasantly surprised to see his stat line, even shooting the 3 which isn’t a strength. OKC also decided to start him benching Poku.
It’s one game but when all one has are flashes, I’ll take Primos flashes and enjoy it.
I agree.. They knew this was his problem when they drafted him... he just doesn't approach the game in a professional way. He was inconsistent before and still chose him... I mean you just have to keep trying tbh... But i agree definitely a deep bench player for now until he puts it together if ever.
I read a stat somewhere that rookies generally are a net negative, even the lottery picks are. Also, when you are playing up against damn good players in the starting lineup - you start learning bad habits. That's what rushing development can do to you.
If there was a 1st he would already be gone, so no the Spurs aren’t getting that kind of trade for him. He’s 33 already and his play could fall off any moment. Maybe not this season but it could be his last good one. It’s risky to trade a 1st round pick for a non star player that is this old. Spurs may have received salary dump offers with a pick attached that they rejected, we don’t know but since FA is over trades like that also dried up.
If he doesn’t get traded now, a waiver mid season or a buy out is possible. Maybe a team underperforms and wants him mid season but even then they wouldn’t offer a 1st round pick, but maybe a second, and some player.
Last edited by SAGirl; 10-05-2021 at 08:30 AM.
This is the ideal scenario, with D White leading the 2nd unit. Ginobili should whisper into Pop's ears some more
Thad Young is a rotation level power forward known to be a hard worker and good locker room guy on a reasonable contract. He gets you a mid to late first and a failing prospect, or he gets you a late second and a guy who doesn't fit the current teams timeline. Honestly that's the issue here. The guy is about three years older above the current timeline.
Personally I am a keep Thad trade Walker guy. I feel like Walker still has potential but is unlikely to be realized in San Antonio under Pop. I think 2022 is pop's last season. Pop is a good guy and pretty good coach, however he's not a headache whisperer. Lonnie is what is keeping Walker from turning the corner and growing. For people who respond to discipline tough love and learning experience opportunity pop is good. For people who need someone to build them up, hold their hand or channel the demons in their head. I would rather see the guy turn out to be more successful somewhere else than be here, unhappy and with unrealized potential.
I see Thad Young here as someone who can help show good work ethic, compe ion and professionalism while playing quality basketball. He isn't a real needle mover in terms of what a team needs for a championship, but for a young team he is what keeps guys from turning into Ben Simmons or Keon Clark.
primo may be the player who ultimately determines walker's fate and it will really be walker's own doing. he lacks what primo clearly has and that is a lack of a fear factor. whereas primo brims with confidence, walker is very unsure of himself once he is on the court. if any of the younger players is expendable, i'd say it has to be lonnie.
Completely off topic BUT... Ayton gonna be an RFA? Can we get in on that action somehow?
i have no problem if pop throws out another starting lineup for detroit; this is going to be an atypical season and there are some important roster decisions that have to be made very soon.
With a big chunk of this team being drafted by the spurs, this might be the most cohesive team we have had since the Duncan years. Not saying that they will be good, just cohesive. Meaning more familial, truly playing for one another.
most of the guys playing were drafted by the spurs, not many "outsiders" per se in the main group.
And add in the fact that there is no true superstar...yet on the roster, its easier for them to have to rely on each other. There is no ONE guy they can fall back on.
I sense some potential foreshadow here... just the makings of a legendary career... pardon my sniffing.. it's just unprecedented at least for our city and team. Ppl can feel it. Almost gives me goosebumps. First game this kid ever played in SA and this is how the ship departs.
Overall the spurs played fast and aggressive. They need more time to adjust to each other on the court with paving and positioning in transition especially when passing out. They displayed an array of options on offense. Played aggressively on defense at times would have preferred they stayed in front of their man instead attempting to strip the ball.
Murray looked a bit awkward in the earlier minutes but seemed to get it together later on.
White just seemed our of place alongside Murray.
Jacob P. With some solid D.
Walker just looks confused with what he wants to do
Forbes with limited playing time looked great on offense and on defense displayed what we all expected.
Jock Landale just needs minutes adjusting to NBA speed. He had plenty of self awareness of players on the court. Hit a pair of 3s and looked aggressive playing d.
Keldon looked good, he had that nice fadeaway along the baseline that was just beautiful. If he can manage to bully and display finesse with his back to the rim like that consistently he will make large strides going forward.
Luka did not have a great opening night but it wasn't terrible.
Liked what I saw out of the hussle from Eubanks.
For the 1st preseason game. It was fun to watch. Just not going to over hype it considering the Jazz were running players deep from their bench the majority.of the game.
It wouldn’t surprise at all if Pop cycles a different group for next game. Actually that’s pretty standard for what he’s done in the past preseasons. Heck he’s had games where he sits starters completely and just plays the guys competing for minutes and roster spots. This preseason is short so I think Coach wanted to test his desired roster initially to make adjustments but now that he’s seen it works out, mad scientist Pop will be in full swing.
The ed up thing is Primo is already over himself so if Pop tries to be stubborn ass, it would be so unfortunate... I know he likes ppl to get corporate knowledge and he believes in working your way up but... if it were me he would've been starting tonight based on the needs of the team... Pop is historically methodical in a land tortoise sense but I'm sure it is what ultimately happens in a year or two...
That gave me goosebumps.
Yeah, I agree with that. I like Walker but have come to accept his limitations. I would like them to give Walker’s minutes, for some games, to Luka so we can finally get a better idea of him as a player. But that’s just me.
19 was the first to leave the court…^
luka's lack of minutes last night baffled me. then again, primo did not enter the game until the 3rd quarter. i'm not sure if pop is still watching luka's hand, wanted to give eubanks a look before luka (and will change the rotations for the pistons game) or if luka has had an unimpressive camp. i guess we'll know more soon.
Pop doesn't send players to Austin to "get over themselves". He sends them there because they're not ready to contribute. Obviously this year, with no "stars" on the team, the bar for contribution is way and if Primo is capable of being a backup who scores double digits on a regular basis then Pop won't send him to Austin because he'll just contribute here. Vassel didn't get sent anywhere last year, and now that this team has gotten rid of the older vets, there's even less of a chance that a rookie capable of contributing to the rotation will get sent to Austin. This team IS to an extent Austin this year. If Primo isn't in the regular rotation, its because they don't believe he's going to contribute enough to earn a spot. And even if thats the case at the start of the year, if we're halfway through and its obvious we're lottery bound, then they'll bring him in to play on the regular time, IMO. If he keeps this level of play up, there's zero chance he goes to Austin. That is a big if, though.
This has gotta be a make or break year for Lonnie and Luka, and to a lesser extent White. I'm confident we're going to get good things out of Keldon, DJ, and Poetl, but will Lonnie and Lonnie contribute? Will Derrick White take a step and actually be the best player on the team like many have said he is for years? Sending Dwhite to the bench is wrong, IMO. He's going to have to learn to play alongside DJ on a regular basis or else he's likely to get shipped, IMO. Or maybe not since I'm not sure how high his value will be.
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