Do have money for Bryn Bryn Forms but don't have any to invest in Samanic?
That's dysfunction junction if Grandpa is still pulling this .
7. The Spurs have until Halloween to pick up the fourth year option on Samanic. If they do, he’ll get a guaranteed $4.5 million next season. As it appears right now, it wouldn’t be too surprising if the Spurs decline that option.
Sniff timvp... let go of your "hurt" and sniff this sniff with me of the young lord Primo.
Smell it's fullness and promise.
Sniff, don't hurt.
Good read! Thanks OP.
Thanks for the grades. I missed the game and probably will miss all the pre-season games except fro 10/15 which I have tickets for. Viva Primo, glad the kid had a great opener.
The trapping, active defense stood out. I'd be surprised to see Thad Young not traded by the end of preseason. Something's holding a trade up, it seems.
I'd be utterly surprised to see Samanic cut. That doesn't make any sense. Not picking up his option is another matter, but the salary is still pretty low. He's still so intriguing; my guess is his at ude is still an issue.
I see a lot of guards and wings thrown out at various times, almost position-lessly. A strength of the team is a lot of active, young players who can go hard, next-man-up style, plus almost everyone seems to have bought in. I can see them being a headache for opposing teams some nights.
That said, there are either only three or four playmakers on the team -- Murray, White, Jones and Primo. I'm unsure about Primo in those duties, Jones may not be ready for lots of minutes, Murray is more like a Parker type, where's not a natural PG, and White is good in the role. Staggering M and W is a great idea, until White inevitably gets hurt.
Ugh, Depressing. May the Forbes be with You.It’s not hyperbolic to state that Doug McDermott, Lonnie Walker IV and Bryn Forbes are arguably three of the 10 to 15 worst defenders in the league. I think the Spurs could have a better than average defense this season but that’s far from a certainty given the players who appear to be in line to be in the rotation.
Also depressing.The Spurs have until Halloween to pick up the fourth year option on Samanic. If they do, he’ll get a guaranteed $4.5 million next season. As it appears right now, it wouldn’t be too surprising if the Spurs decline that option.
We don't ass a lot from you here Bill, butt I'd like to get to the bottom of the reasoning behind your hot cakes here.
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awwwwww yeahhhhhh spurs are back BABY
I did consider the idea of Vassell playing PF earlier, though I thought it to be a worst-case scenario. I think the Spurs should more try to move Keldon back to PF and start someone with White and Murray. I don't know that White/Murray is a good pairing, and running a nine-man rotation in a year that's supposed to be about giving young players minutes is weird. If Young is still on the team and thus in the rotation, they probably try to get a 10th man in the rotation rather than bench their lotto guy. The easiest way to do that is starting one of Vassell, Walker or Forbes and letting Murray or White come off the bench. Ultimately, the team has too many guards to in ber their rotation like they're doing by insisting on the Murray/White pairing that continues to take the ball out of the hands of the other starters. Also having Johnson start just makes it worse.
I think of all the possible horses Pop could've chosen to ride with from his stable that's picking the three worst ones. Especially if they don't consider Young a clear member of their team, the goal should be developing their high-upside players by integrating them into the team rather than shunting them to the bench or out of the rotation so they're more-differentiated players can get the touches. That's basically what they did last year, but instead of former All-Star --caliber, max-contract guys, and proven vets getting the touches, it's guys who haven't done half of what those guys have done and whose biggest claims to fame are outplaying their late-20s draft position. That's different, but not better. They're actually stacking up lotto talent on their roster now, and the goal should be getting those guys to out-perform their draft stocks. That doesn't mean that the Spurs need to get rid of anyone who's not a lotto pick and force their young guys into big roles. But there's room for creativity with the rotation to both develop the blue-chippers and build a team that can win some games. Right now, I don't think they've put themselves in a position to do anything but reinforce the class system from previous iterations of the club but without any underpinning logic behind it. There doesn't have to be a "big three" now just because there used to be one. The Spurs' marketing staff and coaches need to think about their team differently lest they reinforce bad habits.
That all said, I actually think the Spurs will play a different rotation tomorrow. I imagine Young was resting more than he was being held out for a trade, though we'll see. Detroit's bench isn't going to force the Spurs to change how they play, so we should get a more honestly look at Pop's plan. Hopefully, Pop hasn't gone as far as I fear and realizes the hierarchy on the team is still fluid and that Primo's got to get minutes if he merits it. None of Murray, White, Forbes or even Johnson should stand in the way of that. And unless the Spurs are in full tank mode, a couple of seconds aren't worth not having one of their best players suit up. He'd do a tremendous disservice to the club if he falls too in love with this iteration of the roster. The time of thinking of the club as basically stable and that trades are a last resort or only for fringe players is past.
Blah blah blah my expert evaluation of players tell me coach is playing the wrong players and I hate the way they do things now so I’m going to keep crying about how my ex boyfriend DeMar is gone now and how nobody else measures up
Dude you're acting such a damned baby. Like I get that you don't agree with me, but you running around following me or referencing me just to make silly phobic takes is so lame.
I've also never said I wanted the Spurs to keep DeRozan and didn't want that. It's one of your fundamental misunderstandings that you know is wrong but keep repeating like that win-shares are based on a team's record and that being on a bad team explains a player having low WS/48. You know it's wrong but cling to it, ting all over your credibility.
It isn’t wrong and it’s so funny that you pull out of your ass and come up with convoluted ass posts just to arrive at a simple, yet idiotic point. What’s ironic here is you criticized TD 21 for “posting something that comes off as fact but isn’t” when that’s your bread and butter but you disguise it with your excessively long takes.
Not bummed with your response!
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He's a pretty sus dood tbh... he's been doing that a lot around here.. really just needs to take a break from the site tbh. Been there, when everything starts bugging you etc just need space.. kids got 10000 posts in a few years... i can't imagine how much time he spends here LUL not to mention the last three years were probably the worst three years since he's been alive and following the team...
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Forbes and Primo remind me of the splash brothers Klay Thompson
Does timvp have a podcast?
This article is totally unfair to Samanic. We all knew he was a 6 year project so expecting anything from him in year 3 was unrealistic and not part of the plan.
Yes, but we can't leave this all behind.
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He should. That would be great!
Good write up but this mismatched team heading for likely a 11 place finish just bad enough to blow another draft choice with the sublime front office.
Don't be fooled by Primo it is the pre-season only.
I was reading then got sent to malicious site and couldn't finish
Thanks for these comments. I enjoyed reading them and agreed with many of your points and they were well articulated.
For general unsolicited feedback, I'll share that I prefer these kind of comments to the grades. I appreciate reading the grades when I miss games but by their nature they are subjective relative to expectations and superficial, while posts like this show me more of what you really think. I commend you for the grades and appreciate them it's just that posts like these are my favorite so I want to acknowledge them as special and thank you for them too.
Ok now to the content. I agree with your opinion on the Samanic situation and I am thankful you were candid about it.
He's definitely on thin ice, enough for the team to offer a contract to KBD. Luka may play a lot more minutes in the next few preseason games but it should be interpreted as an opportunity for him to convince the Spurs that he's worth continuing to invest in, as you say not just for this season but for $4.5 million for the next one. The Spurs may be ready to cut their loses with him and not extend him and if he's not extended why continue to spend resources developing him?
If he doesn't play much more than he did in the first game, I would think that the Spurs have seen enough of him already to make up their minds. I think KBD is not some token signing. Beyond the fact KBD received guaranteed money for a training camp invite, here's the problem for Luka: he's not cracking this rotation unless there are injuries and I think as the Spurs get younger and younger, and draft lottery talents, he will be faced with more and better compe ion from other prospects that are also trying to break in the league. His compe ion for minutes is now coming in from Vassell, a better defender than him (and probably a better prospect as well) and Josh Primo, a lottery pick who may soon prove to be too good for the Gleague. Therefore Luka is reduced to injury insurance and a practice body. It's a good problem to have, that the Spurs have better prospects.
The Spurs are a business and if they can't envision Luka as a rotation player going forward, they can get similar production from a KBD type for less and that difference would be $ significant next season. And when you think of next season, one has to think that there are already prospects on their radar. Samanic is going to continue to get pushed. He'd have to show that he has more upside than just roster depth.
I think it's to be expected that as the Spurs get younger and continue to add more prospects, not all are going to make it. They will keep the best and afford enough opportunity to everyone, but some are probably not going to find their footing in the league until they are older, have toiled in other teams, or quite simply they wash out.
I am no longer critical about the pick because it's part of the process that not everyone will pan out and the Spurs still do better drafting than most.
The final aspect with Luka is something that we don't know. The coaching staff sees him all the time, behind the closed doors of the gym. If he's not a guy that's going to be happy just being a deep bench player waving towels and they could see that he's not going to crack the rotation he may not be a fit for the team moving forward. There are things like him not wanting to participate in summer league when he could have benefited from it and built up confidence and chemistry that concerned me as well.
I think I have changed my mind and now believe that he's unlikely to make it.
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I mean, at least Chinook took time to explain his reasoning and even if I don't agree with everything he's said, I do think the first look at the team isn't set in stone and that experimentation will likely be a part of T the season. I also think Primo will probably push for minutes. He's unlikely to get them right away bbecause Pop is going to the veterans furst, but situations will arise during the season, whether because of someone's delicate feet getting hurt, or the offense stuttering that will usher him in and he's probably going to show what we have already seen, he's a young player with a lot of offensive potential that can contribute in some fashion right away.
Anyways I have already said more than I intended but I just wanted to let you know that even though I may have also disagreed at times I appreciated your contributions when you added to the discussions. What happened to that guy? Did your account get hacked? Nowadays you just visit us here to complain about someone or another poster without even telling us much of what you think.
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