Mueller DO ENTED for Pelosi 9 or 10 of Trump's impeachable obstructions of the Russian investigation
Why the obstructions?
Why did Lady G etc, "forget" 100s of answers in Congress testimony? Why did Flynn lie? etc, etc, etc.
TSA's wall of tweet
Flynn still guilty.
I have no idea why Trump bent over for Putin so eagerly. Any guesses?
Durham Unravels the Russia Case
His indictments reveal facts embarrassing to former special counsel Robert Mueller and the press.
Special counsel John Durham’s latest indictment is an important step in unraveling what really happened in the long tale of false Russia-collusion allegations against the 2016 Trump presidential campaign. The facts in the indictment add to the evidence that this was from first to last a dirty trick by Hillary Clinton's campaign—and that the media were its gullible promoters.
Mr. Durham this week indicted Igor Danchenko, a Russian national who worked at the Brookings Ins ution in Washington and who was the main source for Christopher Steele’s dossier claimingDonald Trump was in secret cahoots with Russia. The FBI interviewed Mr. Danchenko in 2017 as part of its investigation of the dossier, and the indictment claims Mr. Danchenko lied repeatedly, depriving the FBI of crucial information. (Mr. Danchenko’s lawyer has indicated his client will plead not guilty.)
Mostly notably, the Russian hid the extent that he was working with a Democratic public-relations executive with ties to Hillary Clinton. Press reports have identified the executive as Charles Dolan, a Clinton associate who in 2016 was actively working to make Hillary the President. The indictment suggests Mr. Dolan was behind several of the salacious and derogatory claims about Mr. Trump that Mr. Danchenko fed to Mr. Steele. Mr. Dolan’s attorney told the New York Timesthat his client could not comment on an ongoing case.
The purpose was to present the FBI with oppo-research that masqueraded as “intelligence,” and it worked. Mrs. Clinton lost the election, but the Russia tale sabotaged an incoming President with relentless media assaults and a special counsel investigation. The country spent years obsessing over the Trump conspiracy that didn’t exist—rather than the Clinton conspiracy that did.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-r...am-11636152567
it worked. Mrs. Clinton lost the election
WSJ editorials
Hillary Clinton's shenanigans in her 2016 loss to Trump have never been prosecuted.
Lock her up!
I dunno about this Durham guy... he knew since 2017(?) this rusky was lying and did nothing about it!
I heard here that makes his investigation a sham...
Also, wasn't already known that it was oppo research? That was part of the disclosure in the FISA applications?
You are going to bore me to death.
She continues her streak of being not indicted. How does that happen?
You ran around for 4+ years claiming Trump was an agent of Russia only to find out it was never true and it was all concocted by the woman you voted for. What's it feel like to be duped like that?
He's accustomed to it. I heard his wife cucked him here, on this forum.
oooh, an op-ed by a Trump apologist, with no access to any classified data the FBI has.
You are working super hard to dismiss Kilimniks ties. I can see why. Easy to autistically screech about this one thing than address the broader picture.
Your wider problem with hyper-focusing on the one thing I bring up as the most clear evidence is that you miss the wider context:
the large number of contacts with between this camp and Russia
trumpanzees lied about their contacts.
trumpanzees destroyed evidence
a systemic effort by Russia to support Donald Trump
a systemic effort by Russia to damage Hillary Clinton
Feel free to explain why Manafort would give this guy internal polling data.
Konstantin Kilimnik, Russiagate's Last Fall Guy, Speaks Out
The Senate Intelligence Committee, the Treasury, and even Robert Mueller pointed fingers. But none bothered to question him
Kilimnik is a Ukrainian-American who’d served in the army and was hired to work as a translator at the American-funded International Republican Ins ute in Moscow beginning in the mid-nineties. In 2005, he left the IRI to go work for Paul Manafort, who was advising future president Viktor Yanukovich and the “Party of Regions” in Ukraine.
As it happens, Kilimnik worked at the IRI in Moscow during the same time I lived in that city in the nineties and early 2000s. In fact, he was well-known enough in that small expatriate community that in the space of a day last week I was able to reach, through mutual acquaintances, five of Kilimnik’s former colleagues, including three from the IRI and one from the U.S. State Department, to whom he was a regular and valuable contact (the Senate investigators left that fact out). I also called Kilimnik and had two lengthy interviews with him.
Why bring this up? Because in that little flurry of calls, I did more actual work on Konstantin Kilimnik than either the Special Counsel or SSCI researchers, who ostensibly spent thousands of man-hours investigating him.
Kilimnik being a spy wouldn’t just mean that the Trump campaign had been penetrated. It would mean the same thing for the IRI, which was chaired by late Senator and leading proponent of the Russiagate theory John McCain at the time. More to the point, it would also be disastrous for the State Department, and particularly for the U.S. embassy in Ukraine, whose staffers placed great trust in “KK” as a regular source.
The FBI’s own declassified reports show Kilimnik met with the head of the Kiev embassy’s political section “at least biweekly” during his time working with Manafort and Yanukovitch, adding that he “displayed good knowledge and seemed to know what was going on,” and came across as “less slanted” than other sources, among many other things. This fits with what I was told by multiple former colleagues of Kilimnik’s, that staffers in the Kiev embassy valued his analyses above those of some Americans in Yanukovitch’s orbit. (A third former co-worker was a little more blunt about what he heard, saying the Kiev embassy was “sucking his ”).
They also show the embassy was so intent on protecting Kilimnik’s iden y as a State Department source that they pulled his name out of diplomatic cables sent home:
Kilimnik says he “played a certain role in communication with the Western embassies in Kiev” both before and after the “Euromaidan” Revolution in 2014. “I tried to draw attention to facts about thugs attacking TV channels and opposition politicians, and things like [an arson attack against “InterTV” in 2016],” he says, adding that he “naively thought the West would stand for media freedom and protecting rules for fair play in politics, like it has for many years.”
The only reason nobody’s asked the Senate Committee why Kilimnik’s alleged spy status doesn’t also represent a “grave” embarrassment to, say, the U.S. State Department is because our press corps is the most dog on earth (more on that in a moment).
Special Counsel Robert Mueller claimed the FBI spoke to an IRI employee who said Kilimnik was “fired from his post because his links to Russian intelligence were too strong.” Though not all the IRI staffers I reached liked Kilimnik, each found the idea that he might be a spy alternately ridiculous and baffling. Multiple ex-colleagues said they believed he was fired for “moonlighting,” i.e. because he’d already started working for Manafort.
“I was actually moonlighting. It was a funny story,” Kilimnik says (for a more complete explanation, see the Q&A below).
As to the idea that it was known around the IRI office that Kilimnik had intelligence ties, one former senior IRI official said, “I think whoever said that, that’s someone trying to feel more important in retrospect,” adding that the idea that he was “some GRU plant from years gone by” was questionable because the Russians “didn’t know their right from their left back then, and the IRI could not described as a high-value target.” The official concluded: “I find the notion that Kilimnik is now this big figure remarkable.” None of former employees of the Moscow IRI office I spoke with had been contacted by any American investigator, including Mueller.
Then there’s the matter of the suspect himself. Question to Kilimnik: how many times was he questioned by American authorities, with whom he was so familiar — remember he met with American officials “at least biweekly” at one point pre-Trump — during the entire Russiagate period?
“Not a single person from the U.S. Government ever reached out to me,” Kilimnik says.
Nobody from the Office of the Special Counsel, the FBI, or the Senate Intelligence Committee ever contacted him?
“Not once,” Kilimnik says. “Nobody from Mueller’s team reached out to me, literally nobody.”
In reaching Kilimnik last week I also became just the second American reporter, after Aaron Maté of RealClear Investigations and Grayzone, to call Kilimnik for comment on the Senate report. Virtually every American news organization or TV commentary program has in the last year repeated accusations against Kilimnik made by either the Senate Intelligence Committee or the U.S. Treasury Department, which earlier this year called him a “Russian Intelligence Services agent” in an announcement of sanctions against Russia.
It was once normal practice in American media to give people a chance to respond to serious allegations, but no longer, apparently. “Zero. Zero,” says Kilimnik, when asked how many American media outlets called him after the release of the Senate report. Incidentally, Kilimnik isn’t hiding under a snow-covered trap door at a secret FSB installation outside Izhievsk. He’s in an apartment in Northwest Moscow, where anyone could find him.
“Everybody knows my phone number. It was in Mueller’s reports,” he says. “But I got no questions. I mean, a lot of people know how to find me. I guess they just didn’t care.”
Kilimnik was even on the list of 16 en ies and 16 individuals the Treasury just this year said “attempted to influence the 2020 U.S. presidential election at the direction of the leadership of the Russian Government.” That’s the 2020 election, not the 2016 election, meaning the one that came after the Senate report.
“The US actually sanctioned me for interference in 2020 elections,” Kilimnik says. “I would not be able to say why. I’d love to know. I’ve been sitting in ing Moscow, in my backyard, and feeding squirrels. Must have been some sort of interference.”
The aforementioned Maté published photos of Kilimnik’s passport that appear to show he entered the U.S. on a visa stamped in a regular Russian passport on October 28, 1997. This is the same date the Senate committee said he was entering the United States on a diplomatic passport. The Senate also said Kilimnik met with Manafort in Spain in 2017, which he denies. “I’ve never been to Spain,” Kilimnik laughs. “I haven’t been there. Let them prove I’ve been there.”
Kilimnik stands accused of helping Evil Von Putin aim this high-tech weapon. How? Senate investigators said, “Manafort briefed Kilimnik on sensitive Campaign polling data and the Campaign’s strategy for beating Hillary Clinton.” What was sensitive about it?
“That’s bull . There was nothing that resembled ‘sensitive’ polling data,” Kilimnik says. “I would get two figures maybe once a month, not every day, not every week.”
Two figures — meaning two pages?
“Two digits,” he says. “Like, ‘Trump 40, Hillary 45.’ That’s all I would get, nothing more. So I don’t understand how this is sensitive data.”
Kilimnik was getting his information from former Trump deputy campaign chief Rick Gates, who was directed to send the data to Kilimnik by Manafort. None other than Rachel Maddow once called Gates “Mueller’s star cooperating witness.” I called Gates last week and asked: what was he passing to Kilimnik?
“Top-line data, and I want people to understand what that means,” he says. “It was like, ‘Ohio, Clinton 48, Trump 50,’ Or, ‘Wisconsin, Trump 50, Clinton 42.’ The sources were a combination of things like RealClear Politics and occasionally some numbers from [Republican pollster] Tony Fabrizio. But it was all just top-line stuff.”
Gates’s story is that Manafort was passing this data back to people like his longtime sponsors, the Ukrainian barons Rinat Akhmetov and Sergei Lyvochkin, because “Paul was just trying to show that Trump was doing well,” as “Paul was just trying to do what he’s always done,” i.e. trying to show how valuable he could be.
For those disinclined to believing the Gates or Kilimnik version of events, remember that neither Mueller nor the Senate Intelligence Committee could come up with a different one. Apart from adding “sensitive” to their description (Mueller just called it “internal polling data”), the Senate never offered evidence that Kilimnik was getting more than those few numbers. As to why Kilimnik was sent this information, this is what the Senate had to say:The Committee was unable to reliably determine why Manafort shared sensitive internal polling data or Campaign strategy with Kilimnik. Manafort and Gates both claimed that it was part of an effort to resolve past business disputes and obtain new work with their past Russian and Ukrainian clients by showcasing Manafort's success.Why “sensitive?” The Committee was “unable to reliably determine” why, having no idea what Kilimnik did with those numbers. But they were sure enough it was bad to conclude it represented a “grave counterintelligence threat.”
Kilimnik is roughly the twentieth suspect in a long list of alleged secret conduits that across five years have already been tried out and discarded by pundits and investigators alike as “smoking gun” links between Trump and Putin.
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/konsta...ssiagates-last
After 4+ years of all this Russian collusion bull it's revealed that Hillary Clinton was behind it all and not a single Russia hoax believer has the balls to step up and say they were duped by the woman they voted for President. Sad.
Mueller found 9 or 10 instances of Trash's impeachable obstruction of the Russian investigation
That obstruction is self-indicting.
the Steele business had NOTHING to do with Trash's obstruction or so many of his mafiya in so much contact with the Russians.
Trash had been groomed/compromised by Russians since the 1980s.
Trash wanted the $100M/year from Trump International Moscow hotel and did everything he could to cooperate with Pootin's attack on USA, everything to avoid upsetting, and to fellate Pootin.
Trash lied in 2016 that there was no contact about the hotel when in fact his people were negotiating with Pootin
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i just cant wait till the only person who gets indicted over this whole thing is susan rice. maybe samantha powers
Three more just checked in
no one was duped. Hillary was informed by the FBI along with McConnell, Comey, Obama, DoJ that FBI had discovered the Russians were subverting the election.Three more just checked in
Obama wanted to go public, but McConnell, effectively complicit with the Russians efforts knowing they were against Hillary, threated to call Obama's exposing the Russians as a cheap political campaign trick
Russiagate was real, no hoax, and the Russians continue to attack.
you still think it was seth rich?Three more just checked in
kimdotcom's evidence?
Glad you're not talking about me, tbhThree more just checked in
You're basically djohn during the Mueller investigation right now, every time there was an indictment of any sort "hahaha, Trump is going to jail".
The irony of you trying to laugh at "Russia hoax believer" is not lost on any of us
TK: You were described by the Senate Intelligence Committee as a “Russian Intelligence Officer.” Are you one?
Konstantin Kilimnik: I have not had any relationship with any intelligence agency. Not with U.S. intelligence, not the Ukrainian, Russian, Zimbabwean, whatever. I’m a consultant who has worked for many years running elections in Ukraine. I just haven’t had any relationship with any intelligence, and haven’t seen any facts proving otherwise.
Because spies always are honest when you ask them about who they work for.
Because spies always are honest when you ask them about who they work for.
Nope not talking about you. You are the only one I can recall that didn't get caught up in the hype believing that Trump was an agent of Russia.Glad you're not talking about me, tbh
You're basically djohn during the Mueller investigation right now, every time there was an indictment of any sort "hahaha, Trump is going to jail".
The irony of you trying to laugh at "Russia hoax believer" is not lost on any of us
"not lost on any of us"
There is no "us" there is only you who didn't believe the hoax. I will continue to laugh at those who did, and you should do the same.
Who was Danchenko's source?
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