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    Well I didn't say China was going back to eating mud pies. They've crammed a lot of industrialization into a few decades. They can't do that again, hence peak China is behind us. Maybe CC is right and the CCP will thrive economically rejecting liberalism and cracking down on their own population. History isn't on their side.
    They cornered manufacturing and unlike the US that used to distribute that money among the population, they're tunneling it via particular holdings like Alibaba, Tencent, etc into investments in the service economy. That's basically the last frontier and when the US started to get nervous.

    They're also a nuclear power and the largest holders of US Treasuries, so the US is going to thread very carefully about manufacturing internal dissent in that country, especially when other countries like Russia will gladly side with them.

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    They cornered manufacturing and unlike the US that used to distribute that money among the population, they're tunneling it via particular holdings like Alibaba, Tencent, etc into investments in the service economy. That's basically the last frontier and when the US started to get nervous.

    They're also a nuclear power and the largest holders of US Treasuries, so the US is going to thread very carefully about manufacturing internal dissent in that country, especially when other countries like Russia will gladly side with them.
    its actually Japan but nobody talks about that for some reason

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    TSMC has become too big to fail, and is majority owned by foreign investors. Plus China is a big-ass market.
    PRC also doesn't have an imdependent central bank.Not so susceptible to exogenous financial steering and free to write down whatever it wants in favor of political priorities like general prosperity -- e.g. Jack Ma and the real estate sector. PRC controls financialization.

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    The USA is a long spell from autarky and so is the EU. Would take decades to completely disentangle, even if the political will were there to do it.

    I think SnakeBoy is wishcasting, tbh.

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    its actually Japan but nobody talks about that for some reason
    Oops, you're right, thanks... Make that #2 and closing in fast:

    Japan: 1,277.3
    China, Mainland: 1,061.9
    United Kingdom: 452.9
    Ireland: 322.9

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    Oops, you're right, thanks... Make that #2 and closing in fast:

    Japan: 1,277.3
    China, Mainland: 1,061.9
    United Kingdom: 452.9
    Ireland: 322.9
    Your capitulation is duly noted

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    Your capitulation is duly noted
    Apology accepted.

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    It's not a call to action it is stating the obvious. The US is on the decline and China is on the rise. You are an idiot if you don't see it. They just launched a hypersonic ICBM that went all the way around the world which then launched another hypersonic glide missile...the US isn't even close to their technology and that just one small example. All those STEM kids are growing up and kicking our ass.
    We have actually received a very large number of their STEM kids because, well one recent example.
    Their scientists working on viruses common in bats sounds an alarm and then she gets shut down and the facility she works at no longer has access to other scientists around the world for consultation because... China wont let us have what we want. Which is trying to determine how a virus got so out of control. People who are in science dont do so well under governments who mix politics with science.

    Are you getting this Trump s?

    Trofim Lysenko

    copy paste this name and read.
    There are many more.

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    its actually Japan but nobody talks about that for some reason
    I will.
    This makes it even more important that Japan is allowed to trade without being harassed in shipping lanes to SE Asia and such.
    Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, all it the top 10 trading partners with US. We must use international water that China claims is theirs. And we do.
    This is one thing Trump got right about China. But. calling Covid, the Chyna virus, was not exceptional helpful in relations that include trade and actual access to the info that might help us determine the winding pathway of the Covid virus. This part, Trump got terribly wrong... like so much else.

    So lets bring back the orange glow to our country. Trump derangement syndrome they say, yet team red are going to put up guys like DeInsanitus who ride on that orange coat tail... So many others as well.

    Major thread rerouting complete.

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    Cool, even more traffic on 79. Can't wait.

    I'd like to see the breakdown of costs for toolsets. I'd bet the photolithography tools are the heavy hitters, upwards of 40m each and that was over a decade ago.

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    Chang reiterated the point in April, explaining that "Taiwan has cewtain compe ive stwenghts in semiconductow manufactuwing. Those stwengths awe..armost entiwiry peopre werated-tarent werated"

    fify

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    ^ racist

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    Chang reiterated the point in April, explaining that "Taiwan has cewtain compe ive stwenghts in semiconductow manufactuwing. Those stwengths awe..armost entiwiry peopre werated-tarent werated"

    fify
    Jesus Christ are you 90?
    So racist.

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    lol showed his ass

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    Chang reiterated the point in April, explaining that "Taiwan has cewtain compe ive stwenghts in semiconductow manufactuwing. Those stwengths awe..armost entiwiry peopre werated-tarent werated"

    fify


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    “If I offended anybody, I apologize... To say I’m a racist against Asians is crazy, It’s probably [someone] just trying to start trouble... I’m an idiot prankster. I said a joke. It was a 70-30 joke. Seventy percent of people thought it was funny, 30 didn’t. At times I try to be a comedian. Sometimes I say good jokes, sometimes I say bad jokes. If I hurt anybody’s feelings, I apologize.”

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    "Tell Yao Ming, ‘Ching-chong-yang-wah-ah-soh,’ ”

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    Cue the "ror" from the usual crowd...

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    Who knew STEM degrees were important? Here I thought and Gender Studies was the next big gold rush.

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    Who knew STEM degrees were important? Here I thought and Gender Studies was the next big gold rush.
    quite the hangup you've got there

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    quite the hangup you've got there
    How that hospitality certificate going?

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    Cue the "ror" from the usual crowd...

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