Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[baseline bum]

People are dying
People are dying

Ole Joe failing so hard ya'll don't know which lane to pick

Now voter suppression bad when it's COVID doing the work?

[spurraider21]

The public is made up of individuals.

incredible insight

[DMC]

incredible insight

Great rebuttal.

[DMC]

WH. When it was no longer a W to use states, he moves to counties to get a deaths trophy. Keep moving det goal post, maybe you'll drop a few lbs.

[spurraider21]

I keep treating it like it should be a personal choice if they are no more dangerous than you. It's their body.

You haven't defined your goal in any terms other than effort, everyone should do everything they can to mitigate the spread of the virus but that doesn't address what actually mitigates the spread. You've discounted social distancing when your own personal life is impacted, as unreasonable. So it must then be the level of immunity to the virus itself. But then you indicate that's not good enough either if there's more they can do. For them, there is no "unreasonable" but for you there is.

It’s not an individual concern though. It’s a public health concern.

And social distancing doesn’t mean the same thing as quarantining yourself non your home and never seeing family. But you know this, and are dishonest

The public is made up of individuals. The strength of public health relies on the strength of individual health. You pretend the strength of the structure doesn't rely on the strength of individual components because you have a simplistic view of the issue. You won't convince these people to do things they consider risky and unnecessary with the reasoning being that it's good for the public. You have to show them how it's good for the individual. But keep your blinders on and pretend you have the answer and no one will listen to you. You're arguing public health from an admin perspective and I am arguing individual choice from an individual perspective. You cannot be the entire public and you're not the admin, but I am the individual. So you're just creating a windmill to joust and screaming "dishonesty" when you cannot topple it. Good luck with it.

didnt need a rebuttal. you refused to engage with my point

the refusal to even engage with a "public issue" and treat it as a series of individual concerns is asinine

[hater]

Poor bas jews

[hater]

Boiled down:::

President Trump: 400k dead AmericansPERIOD
MF Biden: 409k dead Americans.
& counting, son.

Joe might DOUBLE Dumps bodycount when its all said and done

[DMC]

didnt need a rebuttal. you refused to engage with my point

the refusal to even engage with a "public issue" and treat it as a series of individual concerns is asinine

You're trying to address it from an admin perspective (as I said) and discuss policy and "ought". I am instead referring to why a person wouldn't feel the need to be vaccinated and why it's not following the science to treat those people as lepers when they are likely more immune than you.

If it's a public health concern for them, why isn't it for you? Immunity is immunity.

[DMC]

Poor bas jews

They thought after WWII they'd be done being human Guinea pigs.

[ElNono]

El we've been over this a couple of times. I said Trump ed up listening to the experts. Taiwan ignored the experts and restricted travel immediately. After only 2 cases SK had an emergency meeting with private industry to launch a mass testing program. It only took a week for the private market to get it up and running. Meanwhile the CDC experts insisted they were going to show the world how it should be done

" ed up listening to the experts"... more like he kept going on and on how this thing was not a big deal (despite he knew the opposite, as we got to find out) and only listened to himself, which was very typical of him. Meanwhile, we let this thing spread freely everywhere.

Biden is listening to those same elderly experts and racking up more bodies than Trump. They have purged those with a voice a reason from the CDC (Dr. Messonier) under Biden. They just bypassed the vaccine approval board. You really just going to continue with the cuz Trump routine?

Sorry, I know you're trying really hard to disconnect the decisions of one administration from the other, that's very convenient, tbh... but we're looking at the 20-20 of who did things right or wrong, and how you tackle this from the very start matters, and matters a lot.

This is like getting a cancer diagnosis and asking your massage therapist for advice, then once the cancer spread all over your body and you finally go see an oncologist, you're ing why he's not doing more, tbh... If you ed up badly from the get go, the people that follow have to clean up your ing mess, and sometimes the cat is just too out of the bag to put it back in.

I can definitely say Brandon could've done more things and some things better, despite certain governors trying to sabotage him, but I also think he had one or two things he couldn't fail on, like vaccine distribution, keeping an smart, educated, experienced person like Fauci around, etc, and he's done those things. He just inherited a really ty situation.

[ElNono]

Misinformation kills

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...vid-death-rate

Darwin won this round, tbh

[DMC]

" ed up listening to the experts"... more like he kept going on and on how this thing was not a big deal (despite he knew the opposite, as we got to find out) and only listened to himself, which was very typical of him. Meanwhile, we let this thing spread freely everywhere.



Sorry, I know you're trying really hard to disconnect the decisions of one administration from the other, that's very convenient, tbh... but we're looking at the 20-20 of who did things right or wrong, and how you tackle this from the very start matters, and matters a lot.

This is like getting a cancer diagnosis and asking your massage therapist for advice, then once the cancer spread all over your body and you finally go see an oncologist, you're ing why he's not doing more, tbh... If you ed up badly from the get go, the people that follow have to clean up your ing mess, and sometimes the cat is just too out of the bag to put it back in.

I can definitely say Brandon could've done more things and some things better, despite certain governors trying to sabotage him, but I also think he had one or two things he couldn't fail on, like vaccine distribution, keeping an smart, educated, experienced person like Fauci around, etc, and he's done those things. He just inherited a really ty situation.

Are you suggesting he didn't know the situation when he said he'd stop COVID?

[Ef-man]

[ElNono]

Are you suggesting he didn't know the situation when he said he'd stop COVID?

Where do you read that from what I posted above? Can you bold it, please?

I'm plainly stating that having an idiot for President when this started cost this country dearly, and the effects of that incompetence still reverberate today. It's easy to pretend we had a clean sheet starting January 2020, but that was not the case.

[spurraider21]

If it's a public health concern for them, why isn't it for you? Immunity is immunity.

its a public health for everyone, ie... the public

the only way i could get "more immunity" at this point would be to catch the virus. i dont think its reasonable policy to get people to catch a disease. i think its reasonable policy to get people vaccinated.

[DarrinS]

its a public health for everyone, ie... the public

the only way i could get "more immunity" at this point would be to catch the virus. i dont think its reasonable policy to get people to catch a disease. i think its reasonable policy to get people vaccinated.

Well, you're going to get it no matter how hard you try not to. Its endemic now. Sweet dreams.

[spurraider21]

Well, you're going to get it no matter how hard you try not to. Its endemic now. Sweet dreams.

we're all going to die no matter how hard we try not to. no point ever getting medical care again

[ElNono]

we're all going to die no matter how hard we try not to. no point ever getting medical care again

Exactly, it's the epitome of stupidity. Why take a shower if you you're going to get dirty again??!?!?11111

[DarrinS]

we're all going to die no matter how hard we try not to. no point ever getting medical care again

Well, I've had covid and double vaxxed. Something else I should do?

[Thanos]

Well, I've had covid and double vaxxed. Something else I should do?

Ah, the classic Darrin “I got mine, to with everybody else” at ude.

[DarrinS]

Ah, the classic Darrin “I got mine, to with everybody else” at ude.

Everyone I know is fully vaccinated. Anything else we should do?

[daboom1]

Everyone I know is fully vaccinated. Anything else we should do?

[spurraider21]

Well, I've had covid and double vaxxed. Something else I should do?

Booster?

[Winehole23]

Exactly, it's the epitome of stupidity. Why take a shower if you you're going to get dirty again??!?!?11111

Food and drink do not work. Earlier today I ate and drank and you know what? My hunger and my thirst came back. What a scam.

[Winehole23]

Well, I've had covid and double vaxxed. Something else I should do?

Put on a mask in crowded indoor places to hinder transmission. You might get it again, or give it to someone else unwittingly.