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We're not contenders anymore. Vets want to ring chase.
He's on a different timetable than the other team members. It'll be interesting to see how this goes down, but do we really think we can get a first rounder? I think that's pie in the sky. Not sure what they can get for him.
We're not contenders anymore. Vets want to ring chase.
These players today are brats. They want to get paid and be on a contender every year. Not calling Thad a brat, he is just being honest about the situation. The whole buy out thing has gotten out of control. Screwing up teams chances of getting assets back in trades.
Fair point. He may have just been overly honest, but he's not wrong...this probably ISN'T an ideal situation for him, and he certainly didn't ask for it.
As long as he keeps showing up to play and acts like a professional, maybe the Spurs can help improve that. If he starts pouting or whining to the media expecting a buyout, he's gonna make that much more difficult.
it's not going to kill me if young goes and although it'd be nice to get something in return for him, i don't think he has all that much value at this time; perhaps that value would increase as we near the trade deadline. also, if collins returns by then, maybe he shows something that makes young even more expendable-even letting him go for nothing. also, have others have pointed out, young hasn't really moved the dial all that much as of late.
If the Spurs had more established talent and were actually making a run for the playoffs, I'd advocate for Thad to start as a small ball center who promotes better ball movement than Poeltl, and then bring Poeltl off the bench to feast on back up centers-- something like Thad for the first 8 minutes of the first quarter, then Poeltl for the remaining 16 in the half, and then adjust in the second half depending on match ups and foul situations. But unfortunately, the Spurs aren't in that position at all, so the only thing that matters is developing future rotation players and getting ready for the next couple of seasons. I didn't expect the Spurs to win much this year, so their poor record doesn't mean anything in my view. But I think holding on to Thad to see what happens in the NBA landscape is the smart move. If a true contender loses a big before the trade deadline, Thad will be a very appealing trade target.
Last edited by R. DeMurre; 12-06-2021 at 11:50 AM.
Exactly - all he needs to do is praise the Spurs "culture" and that moron BWright and the old man will grant him a buyout no problem
Who we kidding, either way he's getting bought out and the Spurs again don't get a damn thing in return
For what it's worth, in this "off year" for Thad, here are some of his numbers:
ORtg 114 - DRtg 104
BPM: +3.0 (OBPM +1.3, DBPM +1.7)
+/- OnCourt per 100 poss: +1.9
+/- on/off court per 100 poss: +2.4
He doesn't perform as well in Fivethirtyeight's RAPTOR metrics, but is still top 6 on the team there, miles ahead of Eubanks, Forbes, and McDermott. The fact that many are saying McDermott was a good signing, but Thad is washed up is kinda crazy, as is the fact that Eubanks, Forbes, and McDermott are all getting more minutes too... unless of course that's part of a bigger plan & dreams of a top shelf lottery pick.
https://www.basketball-reference.com...youngth01.html
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...layer-ratings/
Last edited by R. DeMurre; 12-06-2021 at 11:58 AM.
Spurs might be able to get a couple protected second rounders but that's about it. Thad is simply making too much money (14.1 million) for teams to surrender additional assets to acquire his services. Its that simple.
Hope in the next CBA they change the things around that if player wants out, they just null his contract. They need to walk away from it completely. Teams are eating full contracts to waive players, make players give up the money if they want to leave.
true but lma asked out while spurs were still winning. Pau asked out during a playoff push,and carroll didnt even make it through what December? I get only wanting to play for a "contender" but damn. Spurs are on a winning streak,and thad is anxious af to bolt.
Another player management failure in the making by Pop and Wright.
After listening to the podcast:
-He says he feels frustrated not playing more minutes but understands what the franchise is trying to do
-He says the trade caught him off guard because Bulls had just guaranteed his salary and told him a couple days before he would be staying there. He would've been fine with it if he had gotten some sort of heads up, he had to find out from social media.
-He says he's never had to deal with only playing 4 or 6 minutes a game and that is not an ideal situation for him.
-He says he's had conversations with the spurs about playing time but again understands that he knows that the young guys need to play, knows its a rebuilding situation.
He never says he wants out, not truly hints at it.
What he wants are minutes. which may be coming if he gets ahead of the rotation permanently ahead of Eubanks.
I like his plays on the court, and I thought he already talked with the coaching staff and understood. Why let his dirty laundry out there? Not very Spurs-man. As I said, the earlier they move him, the better and get Landale his minutes, and maybe to Zollins when he’s game ready.
Dude got traded to SA from CHI. Of course he wants out.
He has been asked the question multiple times. What do you expect him to say?
Another player management failure in the making by Pop and Wright.Why are posters on this board so stupid?
It’s the media’s job to ask the questions. As I said not Spurs-man like. Besides that, Landale needs his minutes and he’s part of the future, not Thad.
Sensationalist thread le for a situation everybody already knows.
This. People should actually listen to the podcast or read the interview instead of overreacting to him giving an honest answer to a question he was asked
He isn't demanding out, he isn't going to make a stink, and he isn't going to cause drama. I still think Spurs will eventually trade him at the deadline anyway
Thad: i want to play and i want to win
Spurstalk:
I think the Spurs hold on to Thad until they see what Collins can do. Makes sense.
Depending on the Spurs record by the trade deadline, they trade him or, as is usually the case, he gets bought out.
I could see Thad as a great insurance policy for Draymond. Maybe there's a young player we could nab from them?
I think the FO tried to find the illusory middle ground and thought, hey, let’s keep Thad Young until we see Collins and go from there. That would have been ok if they had actually played Thad as a real rotation piece. So here we are. It’s not a blunder completely, but definitely played it cute and was bad from an asset management perspective, which we have to accept is not a priority for the team, oddly.
This is old news that was reported on a week or two ago.
this most likely is the interview where the excerpt came from. Everything Thad stated makes sense and isn’t ed up to say. This was also most likely recorded before his minutes increase, which I’m sure has pleased him and most importantly helped the team play better.
By the time the deadline rolls around, that will be about $3-4M, chump change for anyone who want to contend.
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