what happens to the republican party

[DMC]

Guess this does not mean poster b is bringing up hitler card.

He posted one about communism so I showed him one about the Hitler card. I didn't say he did it.

Can you prove otherwise?

Ok good talk

[Ef-man]

He posted one about communism so I showed him one about the Hitler card. I didn't say he did it.

Can you prove otherwise?

Ok good talk

So by analogy, what you are saying is: WH posting a picture of a specific bicycle he claims to own (Exhibit A) does not necessarily say he ever exercises on it, just like you posting pictures of your fat hands (Exhibit B) does not necessarily say you are admitting to being obese?

Hmm, what you post is entirely different with what you are trying to say. Got it.

Wait, no, that is just your ducks' level critical writing skills, idiot.

Your dossier on me grows, your grudge increases, and back to ignore I go.


Exhibit A (WH's bicycle)


Exhibit B (Poster B's fat hands)

[ElNono]

But they don't get it done, even with control of the the WH, the house and senate. You're excusing the party for being inept as long as they meant well. Sorry, I don't hire contractors who mean well and cannot get the job done. This is my point. When you elect someone, you want something done. Would you vote for someone who's tag line is "Means' well" or "Status Quo, if nothing else"?

If you're ok with effort in place of results, do you really even need anything done?

But "not getting it done" is not exclusive to a particular party. That has happened to both parties, for as long as there has been a Congress where you need to negotiate, which is pretty much since we had this form of government.

How I feel about it is immaterial to the discussion. We're discussing what the parties spend their time trying to legislate, that's exactly what a legislative agenda is.

These are bills. These are not policies or laws. "If dems had the votes". Precisely the point. Even with a majority they don't support their own agendas. The BBB is going to be funneled to the wealthy. WH will about it here and no one will give a .

These are bills hoping to become law. This is how you write laws in this country. They also codify policies. This is a country of laws, how the sausage is made. If this would be a monarchy, then King Brandon would do as he pleases, but it isn't. So you have to work within the system.

Again, not having every single one on board doesn't mean that's not the overall party position. The lack of a sizeable majority is indeed a problem, and certainly not a flaw limited to Democrats.

It's very likely that the BBB will fill up some wealthy pockets as well, and it's certainly something to about. But, at least, I think it'll also go fund some meaningful areas that need the funding.

Where they purport to stand. If they really stood there why have so many congressional and presidential terms pass without any of this getting done? The few bad apples?

They have passed some of that. Obamacare certainly was passed. And that came after failures like the Clinton healthcare plan. So because something is defeated doesn't mean that's it's dead.

Democrats campaigned heavily on healthcare as far back as the early 90s, and eventually did get it done, even if it wasn't on the first try.

Similarly, Clinton did pass the Assault Weapons ban, and it was law until it sunset.

So Mitch did what no democrat was ever able to do.

They all find ways to give money to the wealthy.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how well your team played. It matters if they won. If winning means getting your agendas passed, and you didn't, then you didn't win.

That's all cool, but nothing to do with what we're talking about. And Mitch did what you would expect a snake like Mitch to do.

I'm just providing an assessment. I've voted for dems more often than for the right, but I know that these ideals that the dems espouse are mostly political talking points. They will never have any effective gun control because they don't understand guns or how or why to control them, and at the heart of it those in charge don't really want to, it's just lip service for their voter base. They won't do anything for the environment but they will put so many regulations on US businesses that foreign companies will sell more of their goods cheaper in the US than any US company can, due to their cost of operation. On so many of the talking points there are fundamental issues why they cannot move forward, but they will keep pretending they are going to (next term).

If the dems had any effectiveness the right should not have a snowball's chance in of ever seeing public office again, but the left is mostly pla udes and optics.

Which of those things Obama did were on the dem play list? GWB won back to back. GWB sucked.

GWB won re-election via the "war on terror", which is the other sure fire way presidents get re-elected. You could even argue his dad didn't win re-election despite being a good President, due to withdrawing from the Middle East (which, IMO, was the right thing to do).

As far as effectiveness or even shooting themselves in the foot, I don't disagree. But, again, that's not what we're talking about.

A guy like Manchin does give the Democratic party a bad name, but it's also patently clear he's in the minority there.

[ChumpDumper]

But [filibuster]

Jesus.

Republicans have no legislative agenda.

That's all anyone ever said.

Why did you have to lose your over a simple fact?

"Ignore" + emoji incoming

[Th'Pusher]

Jesus.

Republicans have no legislative agenda.

That's all anyone ever said.

Why did you have to lose your over a simple fact?

"Ignore" + emoji incoming

You can tell as these discussions unfold, he doesn’t have a fundamental understanding of most of what he argues. It’s why he constantly shifts his position to simply extend the argument. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a person so addicted to online argument.

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[DMC]

You can tell as these discussions unfold, he doesn’t have a fundamental understanding of most of what he argues. It’s why he constantly shifts his position to simply extend the argument. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a person so addicted to online argument.

He returns again to talk about me, again.

Rent free epitomized.

[Th'Pusher]

He returns again to talk about me, again.

Rent free epitomized.

Pipe down pip-squeak. We’re analyzing your addiction.

[Winehole23]

*forum gossip whines that others are gossiping about him*

[DMC]

But "not getting it done" is not exclusive to a particular party. That has happened to both parties, for as long as there has been a Congress where you need to negotiate, which is pretty much since we had this form of government.

How I feel about it is immaterial to the discussion. We're discussing what the parties spend their time trying to legislate, that's exactly what a legislative agenda is.

How you feel about it does matter, if you vote. If you've ever managed a group of people, you likely looked for results, not just agendas. You probably didn't give everyone a stellar review because they had an agenda, if their results were less than stellar. You cannot blame all the shortcomings on the other party, when people in your own party are in-fighting and thwarting the "agenda". As much as I despise party line politics, it's effective to meet agendas.

These are bills hoping to become law. This is how you write laws in this country. They also codify policies. This is a country of laws, how the sausage is made. If this would be a monarchy, then King Brandon would do as he pleases, but it isn't. So you have to work within the system.

But they don't fail to become law because of the other party, when you have a majority in both the house and senate. Someone on your team is pissing in the water. "We tried" keeps being the sounding call of the democrats. "There were just too many of them".. when people within the democratic party are thwarting progress.

Again, not having every single one on board doesn't mean that's not the overall party position. The lack of a sizeable majority is indeed a problem, and certainly not a flaw limited to Democrats.

That's a bit of a strawman. You don't need everybody on board. Failing to pass legislation introduced by your party because your own people vote "present" doesn't equate to losing because not every single person was on board. It means there was enough people not onboard, and often that's known well in advance. It seems much of the process is a dog and pony show for voters. Both sides do it, but the dems seem particularly adept at it, much to the chagrin of many voters (even here when posters criticize the left for being inept).

It's very likely that the BBB will fill up some wealthy pockets as well, and it's certainly something to about. But, at least, I think it'll also go fund some meaningful areas that need the funding.

Same with all of these things. It seems like just another turn at fleecing the public to funnel wealth to the few. This has been happening for decades, maybe longer. There are things that need funded like roads and bridges, airports and such, but so much of it will instead go to shady, hard to follow mazes of money distributions.

They have passed some of that. Obamacare certainly was passed. And that came after failures like the Clinton healthcare plan. So because something is defeated doesn't mean that's it's dead.

Democrats campaigned heavily on healthcare as far back as the early 90s, and eventually did get it done, even if it wasn't on the first try.

Similarly, Clinton did pass the Assault Weapons ban, and it was law until it sunset.

Assault weapons were never banned. Only the manufacture for sale to the public of firearms after the date of the bill was banned. This is why many dem voters are so easily duped.

From Wiki

The 10-year ban was passed by the US Congress on September 13, 1994, following a close 52–48 vote in the US Senate, and was signed into law by US President Bill Clinton on the same day. The ban applied only to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment. It expired on September 13, 2004, in accordance with its sunset provision. Several cons utional challenges were filed against provisions of the ban, but all were rejected by the courts. There were multiple attempts to renew the ban, but none succeeded.

Studies have shown the ban had little effect on overall criminal activity, firearm homicides, and the lethality of gun crimes. There is tentative evidence that the frequency of mass shootings may have slightly decreased while the ban was in effect.[1]


Placebo legislation isn't really addressing the agenda, which was to ban assault style weapons, since they were never banned. No one who owned one, no store who sold them, no gunshow.. ever had to stop selling them. They just couldn't buy new ones for a period of time.

That's all cool, but nothing to do with what we're talking about. And Mitch did what you would expect a snake like Mitch to do.

Sometimes you need an excessive asshole to deal with a group of assholes.

GWB won re-election via the "war on terror", which is the other sure fire way presidents get re-elected. You could even argue his dad didn't win re-election despite being a good President, due to withdrawing from the Middle East (which, IMO, was the right thing to do).

As far as effectiveness or even shooting themselves in the foot, I don't disagree. But, again, that's not what we're talking about.

A guy like Manchin does give the Democratic party a bad name, but it's also patently clear he's in the minority there.

Sans COVID Trump wins easily, there's less voter turnout and you're looking at Trump season 2. He had everything going for him (other than his mouth) that spells re-election.

[DMC]

From the same got who posted that the dems didn't make folly of the event because they aren't psychopaths.

[DMC]

Pipe down pip-squeak. We’re analyzing your addiction.

You've been destroyed so many times on this forum that it's no wonder you make yourself scarce except to talk about me.

[ChumpDumper]

Cool meltdown, bro.

[Th'Pusher]

You've been destroyed so many times on this forum that it's no wonder you make yourself scarce except to talk about me.

Just stop. Men regularly line up to take a turn on your asshole on this forum and all you do is shift your argument to extend the pounding.

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Ted Cruz forgets his Cancun getaway as he attacks Democrats:

'In a time of crisis, character is revealed'

https://www.rawstory.com/ted-cruz-character-revealed

[DMC]

Just stop. Men regularly line up to take a turn on your asshole on this forum and all you do is shift your argument to extend the pounding.

Gas lighting won't help you here.

[boutons_deux]

Alex Jones blames Joe Biden's imaginary weather weapons for fatal tornados


https://www.rawstory.com/alex-jones-weather-weapons

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BUSTED:

Newly-released text reveals GOPer conspiring to overturn election ‘within hours of the polls closing’

https://www.rawstory.com/republican-...aud-2656044952

the overturn-election conspiracy was premeditated BEFORE the election

[Th'Pusher]

Gas lighting won't help you here.

Cool. I’ll let EN go back to smashing your avocado while you remain completely oblivious to how politics work and bills get passed in the US.

Have fun!

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MTG "logic" competing with Kelly Ann and Kayleigh for the most dishonest hilarity

Marjorie Taylor Greene:

Texts begging him to stop riot

‘completely show that President Trump is innocent’

https://www.rawstory.com/marjorie-ta...trump-innocent

Repug wimmen give their gender a bad rep

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[DMC]

Cool. I’ll let EN go back to smashing your avocado while you remain completely oblivious to how politics work and bills get passed in the US.

Have fun!

I know how bills get passed. I also know how they don't. Keep sniffing my farts.

See you next time I come to a sudden stop.

[Th'Pusher]

I know how bills get passed. I also know how they don't. Keep sniffing my farts.

See you next time I come to a sudden stop.

You understand the mechanics of how a bill is passed, but you’re ignorant of the politics. Otherwise you wouldn’t be anchored to your stupid arguments itt.

Or, you just want to rodeo with anonymous men on the internet.

It’s one or the other. Either way, it’s pathetic. have fun!

[boutons_deux]

Morning Joe panelists brutally mock GOP's Tom Cotton for 'petulant' stunt:

'One of the craziest things I've ever seen'

Cotton (R-AR) for holding up law enforcement nominations as part of a petty grudge against a Democratic senator.

Arkansas Republican refused to confirm some of President Joe Biden's nominees for U.S. Attorney until Sen. Durbin (D-IL) apologized for interrupting him in a committee hearing nine months before,

"Tom Cotton held up qualified U.S. Attorneys nominations for eight months and on the explicit argument that

he was mad at Durbin for interrupting him in a hearing and not apologizing -- for eight months, he said this out loud.

"He said,

'I'm not going to allow these U.S. Attorney nominees to go forward until the gentleman from Illinois apologizes to me for interrupting me in a hearing eight months ago,"

"They're trying to own the libs, that's all. This is all performative politics."

https://www.rawstory.com/tom-cotton- -durbin/


Repugs up govt, deny Dems ther right to govern because Repugs don't give the tiniest about governing, by Dems or by themselves.

The rigged status quo where their bribers are wealthy is all the Repugs value.

aka, fellate our bribers and governing

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