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Agree. Everyone knows it’s going to Dejaunte hence drawing his defense out, while getting an equally capable to finish. That’s called coaching.
watching this a few times i'm on the fence about lonnie's physicality on this play (although he notoriously avoids contact)
in theory he could have run his shoulder right into gobert (who knows if they would have given him the foul) ... but he did get the off arm into him, then went pretty much straight up ... the issue was not so much lonnie avoiding contact but gobert being so big and physical he just erased lonnies initial little attempt to bump/create space
either way you slice it, it worked ...
(meaning we fell off the L Train again)
Agree. Everyone knows it’s going to Dejaunte hence drawing his defense out, while getting an equally capable to finish. That’s called coaching.
After watching this, he did the right thing in leaning outward. If he leans in, that shot is easily blocked.
The fact that he doesn’t use his body like Keldon does, and he could, leads to him having to lean out 45 degrees and throw up what is almost a trick shot.
A year or two ago, he would burst past his defender, but miss open layups because he wouldn’t check his momentum with a light body bump on a defender.
3 point shot is broken.
So is Whites.
I propose he just drives and shoots or drives and dishes for about 5 games.
Take a break from bricking treys.
Nan shooters shoot. If he’s going to shy from shooting, he would lose the edge that he’s just starting to learn.
The issue with Lonnie is not as much his shot as his poor baketball IQ. The guy is a spectator out there, he's probably the least active player off ball, offense and especially defense. Poor decision making, poor on ball and even more so , off ball defense.
He’s been ballin out the last 10 days or so. Much less hesitant.
I'm very happy with the progress Lonnie has made as of late. Last night he had a play where he split two defenders and then got a dunk. Dude's aggression has amped up and thats always been his number one problem. Yeah, he shies away from contact but he's never going to be like Keldon in that regard. I am really happy with the progress he's making though.
probably as a result of his recent gleague stint
hopefully to get his trade value up
How'd his defense look against the clippers?
That's called coaching.
He's been shooting the ball pretty well (apart from the Clippers game) which is the least of my concerns about him. Yesterday he came in 4 min till the end of the 1st quarter and came out 8:35 till the end of the 2nd (after Pop was forced to take a timeout, which Lonnie didn't come back from, and was replaced by Bryn). That was probably the worst basketball I've seen in a while, from start to finish. He was non existant, like some separate en y from the entire team. To top all that, during the last part of that period, he made some really terrrible decisions that caused Pop and the bench huge frustration, simply because they love him and want him to be successfull. It began with him driving through the entire defense at the beggining of the shot clock, when he's got a great defender on him and Ibaka who is waiting to block his shot. Seconds later, a fastbreak which resulted in a 2 vs 1 situation, Vassell is completely alone under the basket for an easy 2, instead Lonnie is making a Michael Jordan impersonation, which ends up being another lost opportunity. One minute later he is in some sort of a dream land, forgets his man, gets beaten on the drive, doesnt help the team and Pop in forced to take a TO. I don't see a real progress in that regard, which is much more important than the shot. Tre Jones, for example, is a valuable player for us despite not having a reliable shot, just cause he's making the basics well.
He’s never going to be great. His top end is bench point getter. He’s a guy you need to be able to give a quick hook if his aggressiveness lags. If he’s passive, he’s near worthless.
Even if he can put some points on the board, he's causing more demage than good. I'm not even thinking of him as a starter, but as you said, a bench guy. Right now, Bryn is more valuable, and I don't see us handing Lonnie a contract bigger than Bryn's, which means he'll probably play for another team this time next year.
I hope his stock rises so that he can be packaged with Young.
Yeah, I’m thinking that if any other team comes in North of maybe $5M per year, you wish him well, drive him to the airport, and dump his minutes into Vassell’s bucket. Honestly, Devin was showing more last year as a Rookie than Lonnie was as a 3rd year. He shoots better, is a FAR superior defender both on and off the ball, better rebounder, and has a buttery smooth two foot jump stop mid range game.
Totally agree about Vassell, a very impressive young man.
I go back and forth on Lonnie as a player with a promising future. I think he is a good scorer off the bench kind of player. I could see him develop into that 6th man role.
But I prefer for him to finally turn the switch on. Just not likely.
The Murray-Vassell backcourt needs to hurry up and become a thing already.
I think Vassell is more of a 3 in today's league than a 2. Murray/Primo/Vassell is the 1-3 trio I want to see.
Edit: for the of it I looked up Durant's court time by position. He's playing 58% of his minutes at PF and 42% at C this season, and that's with Millsap/Aldridge/Griffin on the roster.
Last edited by Seventyniner; 12-23-2021 at 10:59 AM.
Haha i can't see us retaining Walker next year at any price.
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