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    How Mark Zuckerberg’s millions and the Center for Technology and Civic Life turned Wisconsin blue in 2020.

    https://www.theamericanconservative....nsin-purchase/


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    Of course you'd celebrate it because just like Zucker you too are a ing weak ass bro.

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    T he oligarchy's tens of millions of dollars turned the supreme Court into a bunch of Toadies of right-wing politics
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    How the oligarchy's tens of millions of dollars turned the supreme Court into a bunch of Toadies of right-wing politics
    I don't know, ask all the Dem Millionaires who "volunteered" to rep We The People.

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    independent thinker Joey crying his eyes out about the Democrats again

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    independent thinker Joey crying his eyes out about the Democrats again
    No one is crying but you bro. I just hope one day weak males like yourself are eradicated from this world tbh.

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    it encouraged vote by mail and voter education. I can see why TSA sees this as a threat.

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    Democracy bad now

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    No one is crying but you bro. I just hope one day weak males like yourself are eradicated from this world tbh.

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    I just hope one day weak males like yourself are eradicated from this world tbh.
    Remember det time you were laughing while your boss had you on the ground choking you? Seems like your hopes were dashed that day.

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    Glad I read the CUCKOLD's reply this time... I don't remember such events considering you got the story wrong even though it's in black and white here on ST and you could've just quoted it.

    Remember that time your ex wife was getting plowed by that wasn't yours? Yeah you remember you ing ass.

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    The spirit of Christmas is in the air.

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    The SCOTUS6 Purchase, $10Ms spent buying their seats.
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    WI and MI are a lost cause for the Dems long term. They will both be firmly "lean red" states by 2032/2036,

    PA will be "likely red"

    while GA will be firmly "lean blue", the Illinois of the South, with one enormous left wing metro area (Chicago/Atlanta) dominating the politics of the state by that point. I won't be surprised if by that point AtlantaLand is even larger and more left wing than Chicagoland because everyone particularly liberals from the northeast and the west coast are flocking there in droves in search of lower cost of living and jobs with comparable salaries to those they left behind in their more expensive locations. Atlanta certainly offers a nice blend of the two. Good luck getting anywhere fast on the freeway system there, though.

    I wouldn't be surprised if GA is to the left of IL by say, 2032. Something like 56/42 while disgruntled GA conservatives flock to FL and NC as they realize that GA is now the epicenter of left wing politics of the South just like Illinois in the Midwest.

    Illinois will trend red a bit but will still be fairly safe for Dems for awhile. The northeast/new england states will still be mostly blue but a bit less so due to southward migration.

    NC is a tricky one because there's emigration on both sides but I think it's still a likely red state, at worst tilt red. A lot of conservatives will flock to NC out of Georgia and blue states. Roy Cooper will lose at some point soon.

    The idea that Texas will "inevitably go blue" just isn't in the cards anymore. Yes Austin is blue utopia but don't fail to realize just how many towns and smaller cities there are in Texas that are strongly GOP to counteract the few blue cities in Houston and along the I-35 corridor. The Hispanic vote in TX, NM, AZ and NV are trending red and will soon be roughly 50-50. Texas likely peaked for the Dems in 2018 and is already pushing back towards being lean GOP. I'm not sure if it will ever be "safe GOP" again (+15%+) because of just how many people live in Austin and the big cities, but it won't be going blue.

    Arizona seems to be much more salveageable for the GOP long term than, say, Georgia or Colorado or Virginia. Colorado has become Eastern Oregon, full of libertarian-left hipsters that moved from CA to avoid CA government control and extremely high cost but still keep their left of center ideology. Virginia voted for Youngkin but it will be tough to overcome NOVA in general elections. Georgia I already talked about. But AZ has a long standing GOP ancestral history and a significant GOP voter registration advantage. 2020 was a one off year like 1996 in Arizona. With the Latino trends and eventual post covid geriatric trends back to the right, AZ should flip back to the GOP as soon as this coming year when Mark Kelly will be voted out of his senate seat.

    The map in, say, 2036 will look something like this, IMO... (I spent a couple hours making this)


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    A few tidbits about the coming decade:

    -Texas will see by far the largest net increase in population. Migrants to Texas will come from both red and blue states, but many coming from blue states are red voters that work and don't collect benefits and are looking for tax breaks and lower cost of living (COLA). The state will be between 7 and 13 % +- GOP long term.

    -California and NY will both see major losses due to high tax policy and high COLA. (I docked NJ three ECV for the same reason.) Both blue and red voters will move out in large numbers, but some blue voters will turn red as they age and begin to appreciate the tax and COLA decreases of their new home states, such as Texas and Florida. Some liberals will move from these states to Georgia and some from California to Washington, the bluest state with low tax burden despite otherwise high COLA. Also WA offers a better quality of life than CA.

    -Florida will see a large net increase in population as well, Latino vote will keep trending red and it will keep the state at +6 - 12 % +- GOP. Many conservatives will leave Georgia to Florida and Tennessee both for the politics and for the tax breaks.

    -Georgia will become THE left wing haven of the South long term, and I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes what IL became with Chicago driving the state from the Clinton era to the Obama era and beyond. Left wing voters will continue to move to Georgia in droves, particularly the ever-expanding Atlanta metropolis. Wouldn't be surprised if Atlanta overtakes Houston and Chicago for third-largest population city in the USA at some point.

    -North Carolina will tilt around but usually be a slight net plus for the GOP. Voters from both sides will continue to pour in, but it has an ancestral GOP tilt that cannot be ignored.

    -The upper Midwest will continue to lose electoral votes as people move out of the cold to the sun belt states. Illinois and Minnesota will suffer the worst population deficits, due to the continuing decline of Chicagoland and Minnesota having some of the most oppressive tax liability in the USA (plus it's bone cold there). Wisconsin and Michigan will solidify for the GOP as left wing voters become disenchanted with the dying Democrat machines there and move to places like Atlanta in droves. Pennsylvania will be tighter, as Pittsburgh is certainly much bluer than Michigan's counterpart second big city out west (Grand Rapids), but there is plenty of room for the GOP to continue to improve in the blue collar NEPA area. Philly will keep the state close though people there disenfranchised with the cold will inevitably move south.

    -The northeast will also have a general net decline in population as well as some of the smaller southern states. People will move to where it's warmer and where the jobs are. Left wing white voters from New England will flock to Georgia while some right wingers will move to Florida and Texas.

    -Arizona will tilt GOP with the trends in Latino vote combined with the continuous decrease in Covid being a noteworthy political issue for the senior citizen vote. The past few years have been rock bottom for the Arizona GOP but the state will ultimately be salvaged due to the fact it is an inherently conservative state. Phoenix metro is not, and will never be, anything like Atlanta metro. Nevada could tilt in either direction depending on the year; it's a true swing state. New Mexico will tighten up with the Latino vote trending red and crime fighting being a political issue in NM. Could flip either way as well.

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    The spirit of Christmas is in the air.
    You don't celebrate Christmas tho so it's just another day any way

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    You don't celebrate Christmas tho so it's just another day any way
    But you do and you hate Christianity

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    A few tidbits about the coming decade:

    -Texas will see by far the largest net increase in population. Migrants to Texas will come from both red and blue states, but many coming from blue states are red voters that work and don't collect benefits and are looking for tax breaks and lower cost of living (COLA). The state will be between 7 and 13 % +- GOP long term.

    -California and NY will both see major losses due to high tax policy and high COLA. (I docked NJ three ECV for the same reason.) Both blue and red voters will move out in large numbers, but some blue voters will turn red as they age and begin to appreciate the tax and COLA decreases of their new home states, such as Texas and Florida. Some liberals will move from these states to Georgia and some from California to Washington, the bluest state with low tax burden despite otherwise high COLA. Also WA offers a better quality of life than CA.

    -Florida will see a large net increase in population as well, Latino vote will keep trending red and it will keep the state at +6 - 12 % +- GOP. Many conservatives will leave Georgia to Florida and Tennessee both for the politics and for the tax breaks.

    -Georgia will become THE left wing haven of the South long term, and I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes what IL became with Chicago driving the state from the Clinton era to the Obama era and beyond. Left wing voters will continue to move to Georgia in droves, particularly the ever-expanding Atlanta metropolis. Wouldn't be surprised if Atlanta overtakes Houston and Chicago for third-largest population city in the USA at some point.

    -North Carolina will tilt around but usually be a slight net plus for the GOP. Voters from both sides will continue to pour in, but it has an ancestral GOP tilt that cannot be ignored.

    -The upper Midwest will continue to lose electoral votes as people move out of the cold to the sun belt states. Illinois and Minnesota will suffer the worst population deficits, due to the continuing decline of Chicagoland and Minnesota having some of the most oppressive tax liability in the USA (plus it's bone cold there). Wisconsin and Michigan will solidify for the GOP as left wing voters become disenchanted with the dying Democrat machines there and move to places like Atlanta in droves. Pennsylvania will be tighter, as Pittsburgh is certainly much bluer than Michigan's counterpart second big city out west (Grand Rapids), but there is plenty of room for the GOP to continue to improve in the blue collar NEPA area. Philly will keep the state close though people there disenfranchised with the cold will inevitably move south.

    -The northeast will also have a general net decline in population as well as some of the smaller southern states. People will move to where it's warmer and where the jobs are. Left wing white voters from New England will flock to Georgia while some right wingers will move to Florida and Texas.

    -Arizona will tilt GOP with the trends in Latino vote combined with the continuous decrease in Covid being a noteworthy political issue for the senior citizen vote. The past few years have been rock bottom for the Arizona GOP but the state will ultimately be salvaged due to the fact it is an inherently conservative state. Phoenix metro is not, and will never be, anything like Atlanta metro. Nevada could tilt in either direction depending on the year; it's a true swing state. New Mexico will tighten up with the Latino vote trending red and crime fighting being a political issue in NM. Could flip either way as well.
    Terrible take all around, tbh. Nobody wants to live in ing Georgia. The much more likely scenario is seeing some smaller cities (like Austin) grow via corporate expansion (and automatically turning blue, like Austin), but none of those companies are moving out of LA, SF or NY. There’s simply a giant gap in talent education and experience that it’s very difficult to fill up or migrate. It’s made even more complicated by limitations in immigration in those States. Fact is, companies don’t pay anywhere near as well in cities like Austin as they do in cities like NY or LA. The difference usually offsets more than just the taxes, since they also need to cover cost of living differences.

    The only trend that matters politically is that cities keep growing and getting larger while rural America isn’t. It’s a slow, but continuous shift that has made gerrymandering much more pressing for the GOP, but only time will tell how much they can really stretch it.

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    NC is purple 50-50, but GOP gerrymandered so bad with 2020 Census data, like House Repugs 12 to 1 Dem that even they thought it was too much, go gerrymandering a couple more seats for the Dems.

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    I thought this was gonna be about the foxconn deal.. with all the success and jobs created surely that translated into red votes? First time I hear of this Facebook deal

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    NC is purple 50-50, but GOP gerrymandered so bad with 2020 Census data, like House Repugs 12 to 1 Dem that even they thought it was too much, go gerrymandering a couple more seats for the Dems.
    Just like how the #ILDems made it 14-3 despite IL being a 43% GOP state. It works both ways.

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    Terrible take all around, tbh. Nobody wants to live in ing Georgia. The much more likely scenario is seeing some smaller cities (like Austin) grow via corporate expansion (and automatically turning blue, like Austin), but none of those companies are moving out of LA, SF or NY. There’s simply a giant gap in talent education and experience that it’s very difficult to fill up or migrate. It’s made even more complicated by limitations in immigration in those States. Fact is, companies don’t pay anywhere near as well in cities like Austin as they do in cities like NY or LA. The difference usually offsets more than just the taxes, since they also need to cover cost of living differences.

    The only trend that matters politically is that cities keep growing and getting larger while rural America isn’t. It’s a slow, but continuous shift that has made gerrymandering much more pressing for the GOP, but only time will tell how much they can really stretch it.
    That's not true. The fact is that religious right wing people have a higher birth rate than more liberal more atheist/agnostic people. The popular vote we will see trending back to the right especially with the Latino vote pressing 50/50. The only hope the left has is to keep pushing muh white guilt on suburban whitey.

    Also you're vastly underrating Atlanta and the white-hot job market there. I get around 80-100 emails per day from india indians for new jobs, most of them ty contract jobs I would never take -- but they are high paying if you're into W2 contracts making ~$70-75 an hour. In the past 2 years, there are more new jobs posted in the entire IT world based in the Atlanta metro area than any other location in the USA. It is undergoing extensive, exponential growth, more so than Austin or anywhere else you can name. People follow the jobs and Atlanta has the hottest job market in the USA, good food, just about every industry you can think of, relatively lower cost of living and lots of land everywhere.

    Herschel Walker might win the senate next year due to national environment, but if so it will be the GOP's last statewide victory there for a long time along with possibly the 2022 governor's race. Ossoff is very young and he's going to be a senator there for many decades. He's not going to lose again. Walker might win this coming year but it'll be his one and only term. At some point GA will take the governor's mansion and re-gerrymander the state pro-blue cracking Atlanta multiple ways and giving Democrat congress members a huge advantage in the state.
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    The largest Latino and Asian populations in the country are in California, tbh. You’re confusing Cubans with Latinos. Latinos are a potential target for the GOP, but they’ll need to drastically change their stance on immigration, dreamers, etc.

    And, again, nobody wants to live in Georgia. Compare to Santa Monica, West LA, San Francisco, New York, even Austin… it’s a ing hole. Just stop. Name me high paying companies there? Nobody is there, especially in IT.
    Silicon Valley isn’t going anywhere. The education and experience gap vs the rest of the country is brutal. We have studios and companies popping up in LA almost weekly and they come here just to recruit talent. Google, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, all opening new buildings in the Playa Vista/Culver area. That’s on top of all the companies that are already there.

    None of these companies are going to the middle of nowhere out of tax considerations. That’s just silly.

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    The largest Latino and Asian populations in the country are in California, tbh. You’re confusing Cubans with Latinos. Latinos are a potential target for the GOP, but they’ll need to drastically change their stance on immigration, dreamers, etc.

    And, again, nobody wants to live in Georgia. Compare to Santa Monica, West LA, San Francisco, New York, even Austin… it’s a ing hole. Just stop. Name me high paying companies there? Nobody is there, especially in IT.
    Silicon Valley isn’t going anywhere. The education and experience gap vs the rest of the country is brutal. We have studios and companies popping up in LA almost weekly and they come here just to recruit talent. Google, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, all opening new buildings in the Playa Vista/Culver area. That’s on top of all the companies that are already there.

    None of these companies are going to the middle of nowhere out of tax considerations. That’s just silly.
    The Latinos I know are ok with immigration, not ok with illegal immigration, but they prefer to keep off the radar and make exceptions on a case by case basis.

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