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Great thread le, regardless.
Dude went and trained to become a top-tier 3-point specialist over one random November weekend.
Adding a 3 greatly improves his potential and the team's potential. Gotta appreciate the hard work if this isn't a fluke.
Church thread.
(Oops. That should say "hyperbolic".)
Great thread le, regardless.
his rebounding has also been better lately. tonight was not great but the few games before that were better. lets see if that stays high. I still see him more as a SF then a PF.
That's the way any reasonable person sees him, but we've been playing small for like 10 years
Your spelling in the le makes it 'mo bettah.' Yeah adding an outside shot will be huge for him. Great game tonight. I was there and he was very intense...screaming a lot!
The % doesn't seem sustainable at all. It will drop eventually. The important thing is that, when this happens, Keldon doesn't lose confidence to the point of passing up wide open three pointers, like he was doing earlier. That just doesn't fly anymore in today's NBA.
Keldon is not a natural shooter, his release is too slow. He will never be a high volume 3pt shooter, but as long as he is good enough to hit wide open 3s at a reasonable clip, he will have a part as a rotation player.
That being said, I think his role in upcoming years should be as a high energy wing off the bench. He just doesn't seem to have the skillset to be a longterm starter in the future. I don't think he has what it takes to be a primary offensive option and his shooting and defense aren't good enough to be a 3D player. Vassell seems much more suited for that role and should take his place in the SL, imho.
Another player who I think should go to the bench is White, but for different reasons. Derrick is probably still the Spurs best playmaker (despite Murray's improvement on this department), but he seems a bit redundant with Dejounte in the SL and given Derrick's a bit of an injury prone player, I think the best thing it would be for him to become our next Manu and be the QB of the second unit. Hopefully Primo will be ready to take his spot in the lineup next year.
If everything goes more or less according to plan, I think our best rotation for the upcoming years is:
Murray - Primo - Vassell - PF - Poeltl
White - Lonnie - Keldon - PF - Landale
We are still lacking that 6'8" / 6'9" guy that can defend and hit the 3 consistently, but I think that's the rotation that would get the most production out of our core of young players.
Keldon needs to learn when to use his energy, he uses it all to early
According to who’s plan? Is that plan to be a bottom 8 team? Those two variables at the 4 better be pretty damn good if the plan is to make the playoffs.
The plan where Primo becomes everything the FO hopes.
We might make the playoffs this year, why wouldn't we make it with an improved roster?
^ while he is not wrong this Pop doing Pop things. Mind fuking. Might as well have called him “soft.”
KJ seems like a great team guy and his energy is infectious, but I am definitely on team Trade High with him as a way to land a more necessary piece, i.e., a versatile 6'9"+ defender. It's a drag that Jonathan Isaac is such a wild card in terms of politics and temperament... in terms of needs, he'd be the perfect trade target, and with the emergence of Franz Wagner, Orlando would probably listen to trade offers.
Yeah, he's streaky. I am hoping the Spurs don't give him an extension next off-season, but I feel like it's a foregone conclusion. The team is just full of mediocre players or those with huge limitations. It's okay to have those guys on a team, but you can't lock yourself into them financially or fool yourself into thinking they're a legit core. Johnson, Poeltl, White and yes, even Murray. The team shouldn't rush to get rid of them all, but they should definitely be willing to trade some of them in the right deals. There are a bunch of wrong deals out there, and the team shouldn't be in any rush to do those. But if they aren't going to tank, as I've said, they need to be active on the trade market. They have to create premium value somehow if they aren't going to get it gifted to them by the lottery balls.
He will probably be offered a fair market value extension. The real shakeup with this team needs to be in the front office or we are going to be slowly developing the 10th pick in the draft in perpetuity.
Spot on. Only disagreement is I think you have to reserve Murray from trade talks. He's really the last holdover from the Big 3 and what will be the Pop era. And he just fits the bill as a Spurs lifer. Those guys should be cherished especially when they're your best player and still improving. Otherwise, yup, trade away -- for the right pieces, of course.
pop ain't wrong. keldon has been beyond pedestrian on this road trip. his handles, shooting, effort on the boards, defense. i can't think of a single thing he's done well over the past three games. and i watched pop's body language with keldon when KJ came out for the final time last night; usually, pop gives the customary pat on the back when a player goes out but pop just completely ignored him.
Last edited by rjv; 01-05-2022 at 12:07 PM.
Kawhi deal just gets worse and worse lol
Pop casually saying to a large audience that KJ isn't playing well isn't going to help his trade value. Not a good move by Pop.
then i guess that means KJ isn't on the trading block. besides, what difference would what pop says at a presser make on KJs trade value? teams can see for themselves whether or not someone is playing well or not.
Pop doesn’t care. He’s never been one to mince words. Plus he’s just here to get the record and then he’s out imo. He’s too old to really give a anymore.
It remains beyond comprehension that these idiots not only handed those insufferable pricks a (tainted) championship and everything that comes with it (financially, reputationally, etc.), but that 3 years removed they have a better collection of young and youngish talent, including 3 players who fit the current most desirable archetype, while the Spurs are still searching for 1 (not counting fringe player Bates-Diop). What an embarrassment.
These fools don't even trade youth they're clearly done with (like Walker IV was the moment they selected Primo), I wouldn't be concerned with a player they've pushed at every opportunity to act as if he's a foundational piece, if not future face of the franchise, going forward.
They'll probably give him a 4/$70-75M extension before next season, even though he might just be a 7th man.
Last edited by TD 21; 01-05-2022 at 04:31 PM.
Speaking of insufferable pricks . . . that comment had nothing to do with their capability. But since you brought it up, they're vastly overrated. I didn't hear a peep about their supposed genius before they fell ass backwards into the Spurs miserable luck.
I wouldn't expect a casual, who just spots results without context, to understand nuance though.
I wouldn't mind Isaac at all. Did he end up getting the vax? I see Kyrie is supposedly coming back and he has a hard stance against it. If not taking it, where are the places that you can't play?
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