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    They are what their record says they are.
    I hit the nail right on the coffin.

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    Yeah you can’t bring up Covid or injuries when the whole league is dealing with it. We aren’t a top 5 team in the west. But I think we have shown some talent in areas that give me faith in the team. We need to cut bait with half the team though next year. Lonnie, bryn, young, Ewwbanks and Zollins.
    Zollins hasn’t even played?

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    Except they aren’t. This team’s measurement of success is not the same as a normal year without COVID protocol affecting availability. And I say that for all NBA teams. Not a single team right now has a record showing how good or bad they are.
    We're more than a third of the way into the season. Most teams have had players miss about 7 games or fewer. I'd agree it's had some impact on the positioning of teams but with each passing game we're getting closer and closer to the truism of you are what your record says you are being accurate. Every team is gonna be impacted and it'll all balance out by year's end or sooner with the infectiousness of the Omicron variant.

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    ride the L train baby!


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    Top 5 from the bottom for sure.

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    I hit the nail right on the coffin.
    That’s not what that expression means. Think you mean you pinned the tail on the donkey

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    Zollins hasn’t even played?
    We could sign Len bias tomorrow. Can’t complain that he won’t play games either

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    We could sign Len bias tomorrow. Can’t complain that he won’t play games either
    We knew his injury history and timeline for return when we signed him. Probably makes sense to see what he has in him after we actually give him a chance to rehab and get back into game shape.

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    Zollins hasn’t even played?
    Dude is super injury prone. Not even sure if he’s gonna play this year. He’s going to be very rusty, outta game shape, and slow footed. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ewwbanks is faster than him on the perimeter. We had our charity case for the year. We don’t need one next year

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    Yeah you can’t bring up Covid or injuries when the whole league is dealing with it. We aren’t a top 5 team in the west. But I think we have shown some talent in areas that give me faith in the team. We need to cut bait with half the team though next year. Lonnie, bryn, young, Ewwbanks and Zollins.
    This.

    I knew when the spurs got a few big wins the homers would come out and start declaring them to be elite

    Not top 5 no matter what angle you take, but I do think they are top 8 with some nice pieces. Trim some fat from the roster and they can become top 5 next year with some moves.

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    “the spurs are a top 5 team in the west” sounds like something derek zoolander would say.

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    Two games from 4th in the tank….

    Not a bad place to be. Tanking with dignity, getting a great opportunity to see what players are more likely long term pieces and who can be moved.

    Embrace the tank ppl.

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    “the spurs are a top 5 team in the west” sounds like something derek zoolander would say.
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    Two games from 4th in the tank….

    Not a bad place to be. Tanking with dignity, getting a great opportunity to see what players are more likely long term pieces and who can be moved.

    Embrace the tank ppl.
    I'm loving this season. It's exactly what I wanted when we all said DeRozan should go. No more vet clogging the minutes and shots, young players get winning (and losing) experiences and plenty gametime, we can take an actual look at everyone and see who's a keeper and who isn't, AND the losses start piling up in a natural way, without the drama and bad locker room antics of a "blatantly tanking" team (Rockettes, anyone?).

    All we need now is to keep it steady, a little luck with dem ping pong balls, and a good draft, which I'm absolutely confident the Spurs can pull off. We're getting there...

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    I'm loving this season. It's exactly what I wanted when we all said DeRozan should go. No more vet clogging the minutes and shots, young players get winning (and losing) experiences and plenty gametime, we can take an actual look at everyone and see who's a keeper and who isn't, AND the losses start piling up in a natural way, without the drama and bad locker room antics of a "blatantly tanking" team (Rockettes, anyone?).

    All we need now is to keep it steady, a little luck with dem ping pong balls, and a good draft, which I'm absolutely confident the Spurs can pull off. We're getting there...
    Yeah I think you and I are approaching this similarly. Goldilocks scenario. Some other positives:

    1. Giving everyone a solid chance to solidify their spot means we might be able to clear the logjam at the guard spot and actually get something in return for the pieces who aren’t long term or who have simply been outplayed. For me White, Walker fit this mold well.
    2. Tre Jones might be a career backup PG but he is quietly producing when given a chance. Might be a decent sweetener given he is signed for 2 years for nothing and is still very young.
    3. We have some nice SRP’s to play with this year in Detroit and LA’s SRP
    4. We have cap flexibility and can easily rent out another year’s cap space for draft capital in market that is thin on free agents and thin and cap space.
    5. Some of the cliff jumpers might finally jump

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    I'm loving this season. It's exactly what I wanted when we all said DeRozan should go. No more vet clogging the minutes and shots, young players get winning (and losing) experiences and plenty gametime, we can take an actual look at everyone and see who's a keeper and who isn't, AND the losses start piling up in a natural way, without the drama and bad locker room antics of a "blatantly tanking" team (Rockettes, anyone?).

    All we need now is to keep it steady, a little luck with dem ping pong balls, and a good draft, which I'm absolutely confident the Spurs can pull off. We're getting there...
    I conceded earlier in the season that the Spurs are in a rebuilding year, so not to have high expectations. But to be beaten by a quasi G Leaguers? I can’t seem to distinguish, if any difference, with “rebuilding” and “tanking.” Truly a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde team, from going toe-to-toe with better teams then playing down with mediocre teams. It’s crazy frustrating

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    I conceded earlier in the season that the Spurs are in a rebuilding year, so not to have high expectations. But to be beaten by a quasi G Leaguers? I can’t seem to distinguish, if any difference, with “rebuilding” and “tanking.” Truly a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde team, from going toe-to-toe with better teams then playing down with mediocre teams. It’s crazy frustrating
    The difference? The Spurs lost 116-117. Meanwhile, the Rockettes:

    [Charania] Wood played eight minutes during the first half, going scoreless on 0-for-4 shooting. Wood was late to pregame warmups and came off the bench to start the game, but he informed coaches at halftime that he had no desire to play in the second half, sources said.

    Houston trailed Denver 77-55 at half after allowing 47 points in the second quarter. Porter had eight points and three assists in 16 minutes.

    Wood played eight minutes during the first half, going scoreless on 0-for-4 shooting. Wood was late to pregame warmups and came off the bench to start the game, but he informed coaches at halftime that he had no desire to play in the second half, sources said.


    [Tim MacMahon] Rockets point guard Kevin Porter Jr. lost his temper during a heated halftime discussion and didn’t return to the court, leaving the Toyota Center during the second half of tonight's loss to the Nuggets
    There's rebuilding, and then there's tanking. The Rockettes have blown their team, culture, everything to bits. We'll see in a few years how each approach works out (LolGambit) but so far, I like the Spurs' one much better, tbh.

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    The difference? The Spurs lost 116-117. Meanwhile, the Rockettes:



    There's rebuilding, and then there's tanking. The Rockettes have blown their team, culture, everything to bits. We'll see in a few years how each approach works out (LolGambit) but so far, I like the Spurs' one much better, tbh.
    To be fair to what happened last night, an old school coach in John Lucas got on two players he felt were dogging it. Why? Because they aren't officially dogging it. They actually won like 7 or 8 games in a row at one point. They are trying. Theyre only like 2 or so games off our pace, lol. They just have an almost universally young team, even moreso than the Spurs. And they have a team that knows they're rebuilding as opposed to ours who went into the season talking about the playoffs as a marker. I'd be careful looking down your nose at the "Rockettes." If we don't watch ourselves and our rebuilding efforts, they'll be looking in their rearview at us for a long, long time to come.

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    The Spurs are a top 5 team in the Southwest

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    To be fair to what happened last night, an old school coach in John Lucas got on two players he felt were dogging it. Why? Because they aren't officially dogging it. They actually won like 7 or 8 games in a row at one point. They are trying. Theyre only like 2 or so games off our pace, lol. They just have an almost universally young team, even moreso than the Spurs. And they have a team that knows they're rebuilding as opposed to ours who went into the season talking about the playoffs as a marker. I'd be careful looking down your nose at the "Rockettes." If we don't watch ourselves and our rebuilding efforts, they'll be looking in their rearview at us for a long, long time to come.
    I'm sure most players on truly tanking teams aren't "officially dogging" it. Everyone wants to win, especially at the highest levels - which is exactly why last night is such a big issue for the Rockettes. Both KPJ and Wood were lauded as big pieces in the R's rebuild all season (you had, if you've been watching, numerous posters [cough, Gambit] hyping up the R's rebuild because they had a shooting 5, a "star-strudden" player in KPJ, etc). Having these players revolt and trash the lockerroom is a big issue because not only does it worsen the current team (which they could care less about), it hurts them going forward - no one's dropping even a SRP for KPJ until he shows he's matured, and same goes for Wood, both players having had a reputation for being divas even before getting to Houston.

    I don't care about their win pace or numbers (matter-of-factly, I'd love for them to overtake us and give us better lotto odds, lol). I'm talking about the future. The Rockettes are strapped for picks after all their deals, with the Harden picks potentially being very late ones given the stability of Brooklyn, and no other assets. They've drafted well (I was team Sengun and still am ) but they're a dumpster fire, without much glimmer of getting better in the near future. The Spurs, despite a bad W-L record, are far from that picture.

    If you don't believe me, just imagine how Spurstalk (and Spurs fans in general) would react if Jakob dissed Pop at halftime and literally left the AT&T Center before the second half. He wouldn't be able to step on the court another game, and rightfully so. Meanwhile, Wood's already getting apologized for, his behavior normalized, no significant backlash. Night and day difference.

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    Two games from 4th in the tank….

    Not a bad place to be. Tanking with dignity, getting a great opportunity to see what players are more likely long term pieces and who can be moved.

    Embrace the tank ppl.
    Agreed. We have gotten to see flashes of this team being decent when healthy, but we honestly know if this team was healthy in the best scenario, they would be an 7th or 8th seed. It's also been fun watching Dejounte take another step in his development when it comes to being a better playmaker.

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