Hack-a-Poodle

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Just thought I’d mention, that’s VORP.

For PER, Jonas is at 22, Poeltl at 19. That’s in agreement with your argument, tho, it isn’t some huge difference.

It actually is a decent amount. I just looked it up again and Poeltl has dropped a spot to 24th from 23rd I referenced above. His PER is 19.4

Jonas' PER is 12th at 22.37.

Conversely, Xavier Tillman of Memphis and Evan Mobley of Cleveland check in with a PER of 16.51 for a tie at 48th. Only one spot is lower at 50th where the ratings stop.

So to be clear, there's a larger quan ative difference between Jonas at 12 with a 22.37 PER to Jacob at 24th with a 19.40 PER (2.97) than there is between Jacob at 24th with a 19.40 PER to the 48th spot with Mobley and Tillman at a 16.51 PER (2.89)

So, it's not that small a difference when you look at the full grading chart.

And to be clear, if there's a better metric to quantify the NBA center position, please post it.

For s and giggles I merely Googled Best NBA Centers, and opened the first two links. One has him at 20th as a pre-season ranking and the other didn't list him in their top 22. So for all the shade some of you guys want to throw at the PER ranking, it's not that inconsistent in the least with other metrics. And again, give me your grades that shows him to be a better all around player than these stats bear out.

I'll hang up and listen.

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FWIW all of the All Time PER leaders are at least "good" players.
Of course it is flawed, but it's ballparky.

Timmy Dunks is 15th. Of course it has Frauden and Chrissy Paul ahead of him so again FWIW.

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FWIW all of the All Time PER leaders are at least "good" players.
Of course it is flawed, but it's ballparky.

Timmy Dunks is 15th. Of course it has Frauden and Chrissy Paul ahead of him so again FWIW.

Exactly. It's ballparky.

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Jakob is a solid player at the center. He would actually be a great fit during the Duncan era. He would also be a great fit on a le team like the Bucks, Nets, Lakers.

So he would be a great fit on a teams littered with first ballot HOF and MVP candidates

I guess all we need to do is get at least 2 HOF and MVP candidates and he would be a great fit here to right

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Hard to fault Jak for the loss when the head coach thought it was a good idea to run Forbes as the PG. Anyone who does that is trying to lose imo.

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It actually is a decent amount. I just looked it up again and Poeltl has dropped a spot to 24th from 23rd I referenced above. His PER is 19.4

Jonas' PER is 12th at 22.37.
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Yes, Jonas is the better center. If it were simply a question of unplugging Poeltl and plugging in Jonas, anybody would do it. The situation isn’t that easy.

Even if roster size allowed it, you couldn’t just add Jonas. That roster would have six centers. Crazy.

If Jonas (or anybody) comes in, Poeltl has to go out. He’s too expensive to keep, when there are scads of backup centers around at $2M.

So, how to bring in Jonas, or somebody, while moving Poeltl out? Suggestions?