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    Where’s your post omicron rebuttal study?

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    Where’s your post omicron rebuttal study?
    Wishcasting.

    Darrin thinks Omicron is God's gift to mankind.

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    Do lawyers take courses in medical ethics? Makes you wonder
    You’re a buffoon.

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    You’re a buffoon.
    He's an Omicron cheerleader, tbh.

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    No more playing D for COVID, now he's on the offensive team. Objectively pro-COVID.

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    Where’s your post omicron rebuttal study?
    Comparing households infected with the Omicron to Delta VOC, we found an 1.17 (95%-CI: 0.99-1.38) times higher SAR for unvaccinated, 2.61 times (95%-CI: 2.34-2.90) higher for fully vaccinated and 3.66 (95%-CI: 2.65-5.05) times higher for booster-vaccinated individuals, demonstrating strong evidence of immune evasiveness of the Omicron VOC.


    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1268278v1.full

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    "COVID is good, embrace it!"

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    No more playing D for COVID, now he's on the offensive team. Objectively pro-COVID.
    I'm pro endemic cold-like covid. Something we can live with.

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    I'm pro endemic cold-like covid. Something we can live with.
    Hope you're right. There's no guarantee you are -- that's a pure wish. Rampant community transmission of Delta did not confer robust protection against Omicron, why should Omicron be any different respecting what comes after it?
    Last edited by Winehole23; 01-04-2022 at 01:50 AM.

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    You’re a buffoon.
    Well, ad hominem is a thing.

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    Comparing households infected with the Omicron to Delta VOC, we found an 1.17 (95%-CI: 0.99-1.38) times higher SAR for unvaccinated, 2.61 times (95%-CI: 2.34-2.90) higher for fully vaccinated and 3.66 (95%-CI: 2.65-5.05) times higher for booster-vaccinated individuals, demonstrating strong evidence of immune evasiveness of the Omicron VOC.


    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1268278v1.full
    Explain why “immune evasiveness” is the same as saying the unvaccinated spread Covid as much as the vaccinated.”

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    Well, ad hominem is a thing.
    No, you’re an actual buffoon if you think there aren’t lawyers who specialize in medical ethics. Straight up.

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    Wishcasting.

    Darrin thinks Omicron is God's gift to mankind.

    I do, actually.

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    Comparing households infected with the Omicron to Delta VOC, we found an 1.17 (95%-CI: 0.99-1.38) times higher SAR for unvaccinated, 2.61 times (95%-CI: 2.34-2.90) higher for fully vaccinated and 3.66 (95%-CI: 2.65-5.05) times higher for booster-vaccinated individuals, demonstrating strong evidence of immune evasiveness of the Omicron VOC.


    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1268278v1.full
    Literally the third paragraph: We found an increased transmission for unvaccinated individuals, and a reduced transmission for booster-vaccinated individuals, compared to fully vaccinated individuals.

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    No, you’re an actual buffoon if you think there aren’t lawyers who specialize in medical ethics. Straight up.
    How do think the case would go if a hospital denies care to an unvaccinated person?

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    Explain why “immune evasiveness” is the same as saying the unvaccinated spread Covid as much as the vaccinated.”
    This is a good point. Omicron may not be more contagious as such, it might get by our defenses with a similar viral load.

    Our findings confirm that the rapid spread of the Omicron VOC primarily can be ascribed to the immune evasiveness rather than an inherent increase in the basic transmissibility.
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...278v1.full.pdf

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    It shows.

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    Immune evasive = vaccinated spreading it

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    Immune evasive = vaccinated spreading it
    has someone denied that?

    Btw, masking is still very effective at hindering transmission. COVID is airborne.

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    has someone denied that?

    Btw, masking is still very effective at hindering transmission.

    Meh, not those cloth ones that most everyone wears.

    Getting late for me. Condolences on your fevered dreams of Viking insurrection man and kids enjoying school.

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    Delta did not save lives, why will Omicron?

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    Meh, not those cloth ones that most everyone wears.

    Getting late for me. Condolences on your fevered dreams of Viking insurrection man and kids enjoying school.
    I have two grandkids in school who probably got COVID because a teacher didn't mask up.

    The quality of masks makes a difference, but something is still better than nothing.


    https://www.mpg.de/17916867/coronavi...isk-protection

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    even medical masks significantly reduce the risk of infection compared to a situation without any mouth-nose protection at all
    https://www.pnas.org/content/118/49/e2110117118

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    I'm pro vax, full disclosure. Had two doses of Pfizer.

    That said, your argument falls apart since the fully vaccinated also spread covid.
    Fully vaxxed don’t occupy hospital beds.

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    Meh, not those cloth ones that most everyone wears.

    Getting late for me. Condolences on your fevered dreams of Viking insurrection man and kids enjoying school.
    Says the guy who craps his pants over non-existent CRT.

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