Ukraine

[SnakeBoy]

The State Department has ordered families of U.S. Embassy personnel in Ukraine to begin evacuating the country as soon as Monday

[Winehole23]

[koriwhat]

Like a good manchurian candidate FJB is kowtowing to all his handlers from Russia to China. Prove me wrong regressives!

From begging for oil, to green lighting that Russian pipeline and shutting down ours, all the way to giving contracts to China and handing over our power grid to those commies.

This country will be better off when Biden ceases to exist as well as all communists world wide!

[SnakeBoy]

Brandon and Germany abandoning Ukraine

[DeadlyDynasty]

I’ve received no evacuation orders yet but we have a security briefing on Monday. Regardless, this mission is ovahhhh by March 31st anyways

[ElNono]

Did Putin fold when they invaded Ukraine and annexed Chimera under Obama and Biden???

You mean Crimea. Grab a map and look at Crimea, then at Ukraine, then you should have your answer.

[hater]

Brandon and Germany abandoning Ukraine

Hopefully no ukranians fall out of US air force planes

[ElNono]

Brandon and Germany abandoning Ukraine

Just gotta keep pumping and selling them weapons, tbh... $$$

[hater]

"A united front"

[BackHome]

Did Putin fold yet? It's inevitable, his military can't cash the checks his mouth writes.

That reminds me when Obama & Biden had that famous line “Don’t Step Over That Red Line” regarding the use of Chemical weapons on its own people with - which Iran ignored and used Chemical weapons - I guess Obama’s checks must have bounced??

[BackHome]

You mean Crimea. Grab a map and look at Crimea, then at Ukraine, then you should have your answer.

I guess you answered the question Putin loves when Dems in power it’s funny he is doing the same thing he did with Obama and Biden that he is doing now with Biden and Harris.

[ChumpDumper]

That reminds me when Obama & Biden had that famous line “Don’t Step Over That Red Line” regarding the use of Chemical weapons on its own people with - which Iran ignored and used Chemical weapons - I guess Obama’s checks must have bounced??

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[BackHome]

You got me Chump - it was Syria

[Extra Stout]

What I think:
FRANCE deep down would like to replace NATO with an EU security alliance. Especially post-Brexit, it sees itself as the leader of such an alliance, as opposed to being a junior partner to the US in NATO for its own security. It would have preferred that NATO atrophy into irrelevance, but failing that, it will find ways to undermine it from within.
GERMANY deep down doesn’t want to cede primacy to France in an EU security alliance, but given its 20th-century history it will be in no position to try to throw its weight around. As long as the Americans stay involved, Germany doesn’t have to deal with that. So it needs NATO not to atrophy into irrelevance. The easiest way to do that is to play both sides with Russia. They also have to deal with the political reality of the former DDR Laender that never did the post-WWII soul-searching the western ones did and still to a certain extent think in the old ways about Germany’s rightful place in the world. The trick for them is not to get caught by the US playing that game. They failed to fool Trump, and Biden’s little comments the other day indicate they’re not fooling him anymore either.
RUSSIA has little to show for 24 years of a Putin autocracy that promised to restore its prestige after the shame of the Yeltsin years. A peaceful Russia today would be a fading backwater with a smaller economy than Italy’s. The Russian people will tolerate poverty, brutality, and corruption, but they won’t tolerate a weak leader that renders them irrelevant. So Putin makes noise and confronts the US. There’s no chance in he can restore the glory of the Empire or of the Soviet Union, but maybe he can at least establish Moscow’s suzerainty over “all the Russias.”

[hater]

That reminds me when Obama & Biden had that famous line “Don’t Step Over That Red Line” regarding the use of Chemical weapons on its own people with - which Iran ignored and used Chemical weapons - I guess Obama’s checks must have bounced??

The red line

I remember that

Obomba got face ed

[hater]

What I think:
FRANCE deep down would like to replace NATO with an EU security alliance. Especially post-Brexit, it sees itself as the leader of such an alliance, as opposed to being a junior partner to the US in NATO for its own security. It would have preferred that NATO atrophy into irrelevance, but failing that, it will find ways to undermine it from within.
GERMANY deep down doesn’t want to cede primacy to France in an EU security alliance, but given its 20th-century history it will be in no position to try to throw its weight around. As long as the Americans stay involved, Germany doesn’t have to deal with that. So it needs NATO not to atrophy into irrelevance. The easiest way to do that is to play both sides with Russia. They also have to deal with the political reality of the former DDR Laender that never did the post-WWII soul-searching the western ones did and still to a certain extent think in the old ways about Germany’s rightful place in the world. The trick for them is not to get caught by the US playing that game. They failed to fool Trump, and Biden’s little comments the other day indicate they’re not fooling him anymore either.
RUSSIA has little to show for 24 years of a Putin autocracy that promised to restore its prestige after the shame of the Yeltsin years. A peaceful Russia today would be a fading backwater with a smaller economy than Italy’s. The Russian people will tolerate poverty, brutality, and corruption, but they won’t tolerate a weak leader that renders them irrelevant. So Putin makes noise and confronts the US. There’s no chance in he can restore the glory of the Empire or of the Soviet Union, but maybe he can at least establish Moscow’s suzerainty over “all the Russias.”

Yeah France seems they are fed up with US bull . Their spooks have a LOT of clout in that country.

Germany is 1/2 and 1/2. US influence is great in that country for obvious reasons.

[Extra Stout]

Yeah France seems they are fed up with US bull . Their spooks have a LOT of clout in that country.

Germany is 1/2 and 1/2. US influence is great in that country for obvious reasons.

It’s pretty easy for French spooks to use a Cajun/redneck iden y as cover. They know . My favorite conspiracy theory is that the reason the 1/6/21 autogolpe failed is that Mike Pence’s SS detail was tipped off by French intelligence.

[hater]

It’s pretty easy for French spooks to use a Cajun/redneck iden y as cover. They know . My favorite conspiracy theory is that the reason the 1/6/21 autogolpe failed is that Mike Pence’s SS detail was tipped off by French intelligence.

I just know french spooks from an intervie I saw from one french guy. They got pissed off that US spooks had been spying on them for years. The guy confronted his US counterpart and told him to his face he knew they been spied on for a few.months and were feeding false information.

The fact that french spooks can do that tells me they have a lot of freedom.to act as they please.

[hater]

It means the so-called “nuclear option” in the sanctions package is off the consideration zone. Evidently, Europeans cannot afford to snap economic and financial ties with Russia, given their heavy dependence on Siberian gas. In Berlin, Ministry of Economy has disclosed that as of January 11, Germany only has “a theoretical working gas availability of 17.7 days.”

Basically, how do you sanction a country endowed with such fabulous mineral resources and foreign reserves exceeding US$650 billion? Russia balances its budget if oil sells at $40 per barrel.

Again, the US threat to punish Russia by holding back the certification for the Nord Stream 2 pipeline is simply unrealistic. The government daily Rossiyskaya Gazeta commented on Wednesday that Russia is not suffering any financial losses over the delay in the certification since high gas prices compensated all investments into this project and may only prompt Russia now to expand its LNG production and switch to gas conversion so as to create new export potential.

It is an open secret that in October and November, France, Germany and some others in the EU questioned Washington’s warnings that Russia’s military buildup near Ukraine could signal an imminent invasion. France and Germany even opposed activating NATO’s crisis response planning system and had to be persuaded to relent.

Above all, Europeans have no desire to bankroll Ukraine which is a black hole and failing state. It doesn’t make sense to them when the US intelligence brags in the media that they’d bleed Russian troops in a guerrilla war in the middle of Europe. Fundamentally, all this dovetails into a pervasive scepticism among the European elite regarding the Biden administration.

https://www.indianpunchline.com/blin...nse-to-russia/

[hater]

[O]f course, we absolutely do not need to fight for Ukraine to the last Ukrainian, we certainly do not want to fight there. All this squealing about the fact that we are going to capture Kiev, it is about nothing. Yes, our military is standing at the Ukrainian border, but only so that on the other side it does not occur to anyone to break into the Donbass. And the capture of Ukraine in our military plans, I'm sure, is not included. If only for the reason that capturing a country that is castrated economically, morally and intellectually, a country with a destroyed infrastructure and an embittered population is the worst-case scenario. The worst thing America can do for us is to give us Ukraine in the form they brought it to.

https://aif.ru/politics/russia/serge...ostranyayutsya

[hater]

[Extra Stout]

I get the sense that France would love to get the chance to wear the cape and be the guarantor of Baltic and Central European security (with American alliance of course), while deep down Germany looks over at Silesia, Prussia, and Pomerania, and doesn’t really give a what happens to the Balts and Slavs.

[DMC]

Dams cannot save their own citizens, want to pretend to save Ukrainians. Det Hunter money.

[ElNono]

That reminds me when Obama & Biden had that famous line “Don’t Step Over That Red Line” regarding the use of Chemical weapons on its own people with - which Iran ignored and used Chemical weapons - I guess Obama’s checks must have bounced??

You can't have it both ways. When we bombed Syria for the same , you curled in fetal position and became a pacifist. You were also probably very upset when Obama finally got Bin Laden. Then Brandon gets us out of Afghanistan and you're a warmonger again.

Save us the fake outrage, tbh...

I guess you answered the question Putin loves when Dems in power it’s funny he is doing the same thing he did with Obama and Biden that he is doing now with Biden and Harris.

Putin loves a weak, dumb guy like Trump because he can manipulate him as he pleases.

Don't forget this buildup started months before Biden was even president, and the only thing you could hear from the manchild president back then was crying about the 'stolen election'.

[ElNono]

What I think:
FRANCE deep down would like to replace NATO with an EU security alliance. Especially post-Brexit, it sees itself as the leader of such an alliance, as opposed to being a junior partner to the US in NATO for its own security. It would have preferred that NATO atrophy into irrelevance, but failing that, it will find ways to undermine it from within.
GERMANY deep down doesn’t want to cede primacy to France in an EU security alliance, but given its 20th-century history it will be in no position to try to throw its weight around. As long as the Americans stay involved, Germany doesn’t have to deal with that. So it needs NATO not to atrophy into irrelevance. The easiest way to do that is to play both sides with Russia. They also have to deal with the political reality of the former DDR Laender that never did the post-WWII soul-searching the western ones did and still to a certain extent think in the old ways about Germany’s rightful place in the world. The trick for them is not to get caught by the US playing that game. They failed to fool Trump, and Biden’s little comments the other day indicate they’re not fooling him anymore either.
RUSSIA has little to show for 24 years of a Putin autocracy that promised to restore its prestige after the shame of the Yeltsin years. A peaceful Russia today would be a fading backwater with a smaller economy than Italy’s. The Russian people will tolerate poverty, brutality, and corruption, but they won’t tolerate a weak leader that renders them irrelevant. So Putin makes noise and confronts the US. There’s no chance in he can restore the glory of the Empire or of the Soviet Union, but maybe he can at least establish Moscow’s suzerainty over “all the Russias.”

Agreed. Don't forget Germany also has primacy over the Union's economy (with the EU Central Bank being in Frankfurt for a reason). France figured they could vie for a leading role militarily, but who's funding it?