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Well scouting, drafting, developing remains a strength of ours. I’m just hoping we din’t get too cute and over think a potential top 5 pick. Best player available pls.
I don’t disagree. I just don’t think the pure talent is there for Jabari either. Kid is being hyped up yet isn’t doing anything spectacular in college.
Well scouting, drafting, developing remains a strength of ours. I’m just hoping we din’t get too cute and over think a potential top 5 pick. Best player available pls.
Kendall Brown's freshman numbers (on a Baylor team that's better than Primo's Alabama team) might not look overly impressive, but they're better than Primo's were in almost every way-- points, rebounds, assists, steals, WS, ORtg, DRtg, BPM, per game, per minute, etc... hard to argue that casuals don't understand why Primo might be so great while also saying Brown doesn't have potential.
Primo was a 17 YO freshman. He also launched 6 3s per game at 38%. Kendall barely shoots them, 33% for 1.1 attempts per game. That is the single largest difference, and it’s huge in a league that values nothing as much as it values taking a lot of 3s, and making them at a high percentage.
Very true, but Evan Mobley and Scottie Barnes are two guys leading the way in the ROY race, and neither shoots the 3 prolifically or efficiently (yet). Keldon Johnson is shooting 44% from 3 and is still a net negative. The 3pt shot obviously has big value, but it isn't the only thing that makes a player great. Giannis and Doncic are two of the best modern players on the planet and neither has ever shot above 35% from 3.
Also, Primo shot 6 threes per 40 minutes, not per game. He averaged 3.8 threes per game at Alabama.
Mobleys a center, and we’ll have to watch Barnes development. ROY isn’t the finish line for a career. Just ask Michael Carter-Williams. He couldn’t shoot, either.
Call me crazy, but I’m thinking if you are in the draft pool as a SF, you should actually be able to shoot the 3 ball at a high rate and percentage, or not be a top pick.
Mobley is playing a ton of PF this year beside Jarrett Allen, and occasionally SF. Again, I generally agree that a nice 3pt% is appealing-- it's just not absolute. KJ and McDermott are both having great 3 pt% seasons and are both net negative players for the Spurs. McDermott is having arguably one of the worst performances in the league in terms of overall affect on wins, as did Bryn Forbes... so it's pretty fair to say that the two best 3 pt shooters on the team were/are their weakest links because they lack so much in other areas.
It's all moot anyway since the league has tipped their hand that they're not interested in making the Spurs somewhat whole despite their getting screwed, but hypothetically speaking, given the need for an offensive centerpiece, a four and his Hispanic heritage, I can't see how they'd pass on Banchero.
Smith's projected malleability makes more sense for teams who think they might already have the offensive centerpiece.
The NBA shouldn’t have to make us whole for Kawhi being a . Should they make us whole for Pop not exploring better deals for Kawhi out of spite and stubborness? There is no conspiracy here.
Also Banchero is Italian American LOL
Last edited by KingKev; 01-23-2022 at 04:56 PM.
You missed one more for Banchero: he’s a Seattle native and appears to have connected with Murray already. It’s the same reason I think theres a nonzero chance for Lavine to sign here— Lavine is a Seattle native and appears to be close with Murray already (both go out of their way to show a lot of support for each other on social media)
The league has a history of non glamour markets, when they're thrust into a tough spot, conveniently having lottery luck in short order.
If Silver had a spine, he wouldn't have allowed it to play out how it did in the first place. I'm confident Stern, despite the league office's dislike for the Spurs, wouldn't have because he'd have seen the bigger picture of allowing a player to decimate a small market franchise.
Wojnarowski and Windhorst said at the time his value was so low there was nothing resembling a commensurate offer at any point. That doesn't absolve the Spurs for bending over like they ultimately did though.
Hispanic, Italian; close enough. Two out of three ain't bad.
I dream of Lavine also but it would take a miracle for him to leave Chicago; Bulls would really have to mess up. He might even be supermax eligible if he makes an All-NBA team this year and he is right there especially with Dame struggling and Irving probably not eligible.
Both McD and Keldon are catch and shoot. Believe me, that will also go out of style. Primo can get his own. That’s the future, and why Curry is so unstoppable.
BTW, that also means that kendalls 1.1 3G attempts are also per 36. You didn’t help your case.
I see both sides you look at Brown and you see a extremely athletic player who has a high ball IQ and he is young/Freshmen. But..............he has not shown the ability to hit the 3 ball or mid shots his offensive game is very raw. He is a risk to take but if he can learn to shoot then you got your self an All Star.....
I have made some changes to my picks based on the big 3 being selected before we pick:
1. Jaden Ivey - PG/SG - 6'4
2. Shaedon Sharpe - SG - 6'6
3. Bennedict Mathurin - SG- 6'7
4. Johnny Davis - SG - 6'5
5. Keegan Murray - PF- 6'8
6. Kendal Brown - SF - 6'8
7. AJ. Griffin- SF - 6'6
I think picks 1 - 5 give you your starting player for next several years -Could be Bat Man or Robin?
For Detroit I am thinking of going big or best available:
1. Ismael Kamagate - C - 6'11
2. Walker Kessler - C - 7'1
3. Julian Champagnie - SF- 6'8
For LA pick I am thinking potential maybe draft and stash:
1. Hugo Besson - PG/SG - 6'3 - I think he might go late first or early second but who knows
2.Yannick Nzosa - PF- 6/10 - Was thought of as a top 10 for this draft would be smart not declare for this year
3. Gabriel Procida - SG/SF - 6'7 - The kid is super athletic and can shoot the 3 ball has potential
How many total picks do we have this year? 3?
Yes, we got our pick and Detroit and the Flakers second round picks
I would clarify that. Scouting, drafting, and developing guards and wings remains a strength. Not so much for bigs.
Definitely less success. Mahinmi, Tiago, Blair, Arrgh Scola all late pics with pretty good careers we had some involvement in.
Shaedon Sharpe would be an amazing pick if we don’t get a top three pick and can’t get Ivey.
Not sure why mahinmi is on that list.
You are probably right but 10+ years in the league and contributed to Mavs 2011 le - for me that is fair value for a late 1st.
Why? He’s not even playing at UK. This is another case like Wiseman, where you have to go by seeing him against HS compe ion on video, because that will be almost all of what there is to see.
Yeah, but we’re talking about elite talent they are some players who would definitely get drafted without playing any college ball if they lowered the draft age. And I can definitely say that people have been watching him during team practice. All drafts are a crap shot you just want to try and do as much research as you can. All lottery teams will bring him in for a workout and do as much background as possible to dot the I’s and cross the T’s.
Just look at the Spurs with Primo they didn’t draft him on what he did in college they drafted him on what he showed on some pre draft games and workouts that showed he has good handles and court vision to go with everything else.
It’s a gamble and I do miss the days when players would craft their basketball for 3 or 4 years in college because it produced a better NBA product.
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