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    so... is this guy's shooting for real? i'm still having a hard time buying it, even though its been a few months now

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    so... is this guy's shooting for real? i'm still having a hard time buying it, even though its been a few months now
    He also shot well in college and the bubble.

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    so... is this guy's shooting for real? i'm still having a hard time buying it, even though its been a few months now
    Yup he’s been working hard on that. I think he realizes that his ticket could be a quasi 3 and D instead of a 4, not to be overmatched. I still see his guy blowing him, but the effort is there to stay in front. And that this team needs a quality 4 and that’s not him.

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    Yup he’s been working hard on that. I think he realizes that his ticket could be a quasi 3 and D instead of a 4, not to be overmatched. I still see his guy blowing him, but the effort is there to stay in front. And that this team needs a quality 4 and that’s not him.
    The 3 in 3/D doesn’t mean the position but represents 3pt shooter. You can be a 3 and D player and still play the 4.

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    The 3 in 3/D doesn’t mean the position but represents 3pt shooter. You can be a 3 and D player and still play the 4.
    But I don’t think he’ll be a stretch 4 though with his obvious height disadvantage. I think he’s working hard to play 3 and D at SF. I think it’s obvious to everyone that this team needs a modern day big.

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    He needs to lose that big body to be a 3 in todays league

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    I still see his guy blowing him
    What feed have you been watching

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    Is the dominant primary role playing out of position and getting raped by every power forward in the league? Cause thats the only thing Keldon does night in and night out

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    What feed have you been watching
    Does tonight game answered your question?

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    ever since he got covid he has regressed so much so that DJ is now the best player on this team. Earlier in the year he was the best player on the team

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    He wasn't quite the same after coming back from COVID protocol. That actually took the wind out of the entire season. The team was gelling and had a stretch of very winnable games ahead of them. They come back to a very compressed season with guys not quite at 100%. LeMarcus bolts about the same time and the season is completely different after that.

    Keldon was taking over games at that point, and he never really returned to that level.

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    He wasn't quite the same after coming back from COVID protocol. That actually took the wind out of the entire season. The team was gelling and had a stretch of very winnable games ahead of them. They come back to a very compressed season with guys not quite at 100%. LeMarcus bolts about the same time and the season is completely different after that.

    Keldon was taking over games at that point, and he never really returned to that level.

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    What an enigma he is this year. Beyond being ill sized to play the 4, to me it’s really his (lack of) focus. Rare scoring outbursts. The rare game he decides to get 20 rebounds. Like, is he really just a kid with ADHD at heart? Despite the defense, he should be scoring way more. He’s sort of anonymous out there. Very weird.

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    What an enigma he is this year. Beyond being ill sized to play the 4, to me it’s really his (lack of) focus. Rare scoring outbursts. The rare game he decides to get 20 rebounds. Like, is he really just a kid with ADHD at heart? Despite the defense, he should be scoring way more. He’s sort of anonymous out there. Very weird.
    Well, as much as we go back and forth in here about whether he's fit to play PF or not, it's undeniable that being assigned a bigger, taller, heavier-than-you defensive matchup every night is very taxing on the body, especially over an 82-game season. His defense has really suffered this season (not like it was ever elite, but still) and his offense has been inconsistent at best, besides his shooting, which doesn't take up all that much energy, only aim (which luckily he seems to have found in spades).

    I really adhere to Draymond's comments on him. He's better off slimming down (all that muscle weight, while helpful for bumping in the paint, doesn't come free), getting faster and nimbler, and focusing on trying to play the 3 as the Spurs get an actual force at PF, hopefully through the draft. Whether he'll ever be able to defend SFs is a question, but it's certainly worth the try, especially after having seen a full season of him at the 4. I like him, I really do, but he's not a solution at his current position/role. At least not unless you reshape the roster around his limitations, which he's not good enough to be worth.

    He's got one of the more interesting off-seasons coming up this year. I really wanna see what he adds to his game and what he does with his (big) body.

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    Totally agree about his off-season. I’m not writing him off. He could pull it all together next year. Also, I’m ok blaming McBuckets; I’d like to see a true PF to play alongside Keldon and move McB to the bench in a more appropriate role.

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    Well, as much as we go back and forth in here about whether he's fit to play PF or not, it's undeniable that being assigned a bigger, taller, heavier-than-you defensive matchup every night is very taxing on the body, especially over an 82-game season. His defense has really suffered this season (not like it was ever elite, but still) and his offense has been inconsistent at best, besides his shooting, which doesn't take up all that much energy, only aim (which luckily he seems to have found in spades).

    I really adhere to Draymond's comments on him. He's better off slimming down (all that muscle weight, while helpful for bumping in the paint, doesn't come free), getting faster and nimbler, and focusing on trying to play the 3 as the Spurs get an actual force at PF, hopefully through the draft. Whether he'll ever be able to defend SFs is a question, but it's certainly worth the try, especially after having seen a full season of him at the 4. I like him, I really do, but he's not a solution at his current position/role. At least not unless you reshape the roster around his limitations, which he's not good enough to be worth.

    He's got one of the more interesting off-seasons coming up this year. I really wanna see what he adds to his game and what he does with his (big) body.
    If he could find a way to grow 3". It will be a great off season

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    Totally agree about his off-season. I’m not writing him off. He could pull it all together next year. Also, I’m ok blaming McBuckets; I’d like to see a true PF to play alongside Keldon and move McB to the bench in a more appropriate role.
    Yeah, McB has been... Well, I couldn't say underwhelming, since he's pretty much came in and done exactly as advertised. Good shooting, cutting and finishing, and bad everything else. As much as a team like the Spurs appreciates and needs his shooting, he's obviously not a starting caliber player if your team wants to go anywhere, so that's a position to upgrade. I'm especially frustrated at his (and Keldon's to an extent) weakness on the boards, and anything defense-related; no boxouts of any kind, no fight for rebounds, no walling on defense, just matador-style, Let-Jakob-Handle-It defense, which not even the Utah Jazz can pull off successfully.

    The league is way too spaced out nowadays, and those kinds of collapsing defense done by slow-footed players only end up in incessant kick outs to the wings for uncontested 3s. Annoying to watch, tbh.

    If he could find a way to grow 3". It will be a great off season
    I don't see Keldon doing that, and tbh, I'd much rather Primo grows 3'' in the off-season. Would make for a much more interesting player, and his growth plates are (supposedly) still open, so... Get Primo Pasta on some HGH, pronto!

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    Yeah, McB has been... Well, I couldn't say underwhelming, since he's pretty much came in and done exactly as advertised. Good shooting, cutting and finishing, and bad everything else. As much as a team like the Spurs appreciates and needs his shooting, he's obviously not a starting caliber player if your team wants to go anywhere, so that's a position to upgrade. I'm especially frustrated at his (and Keldon's to an extent) weakness on the boards, and anything defense-related; no boxouts of any kind, no fight for rebounds, no walling on defense, just matador-style, Let-Jakob-Handle-It defense, which not even the Utah Jazz can pull off successfully.

    The league is way too spaced out nowadays, and those kinds of collapsing defense done by slow-footed players only end up in incessant kick outs to the wings for uncontested 3s. Annoying to watch, tbh.



    I don't see Keldon doing that, and tbh, I'd much rather Primo grows 3'' in the off-season. Would make for a much more interesting player, and his growth plates are (supposedly) still open, so... Get Primo Pasta on some HGH, pronto!
    Yeah I know it's KJ is not gonna grow, however he would probably be a better PF than a SF however his height reduces his effectiveness in rebounding and interior defence.

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    He’s extension eligible after this season right? Wonder if he gets the Walker treatment.

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    He’s extension eligible after this season right? Wonder if he gets the Walker treatment.
    Keldon has def earned a White level extension and if he is willing to take that you lock him up even if you don’t see him as part of the future.

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    Well, as much as we go back and forth in here about whether he's fit to play PF or not, it's undeniable that being assigned a bigger, taller, heavier-than-you defensive matchup every night is very taxing on the body, especially over an 82-game season. His defense has really suffered this season (not like it was ever elite, but still) and his offense has been inconsistent at best, besides his shooting, which doesn't take up all that much energy, only aim (which luckily he seems to have found in spades).

    I really adhere to Draymond's comments on him. He's better off slimming down (all that muscle weight, while helpful for bumping in the paint, doesn't come free), getting faster and nimbler, and focusing on trying to play the 3 as the Spurs get an actual force at PF, hopefully through the draft. Whether he'll ever be able to defend SFs is a question, but it's certainly worth the try, especially after having seen a full season of him at the 4. I like him, I really do, but he's not a solution at his current position/role. At least not unless you reshape the roster around his limitations, which he's not good enough to be worth.

    He's got one of the more interesting off-seasons coming up this year. I really wanna see what he adds to his game and what he does with his (big) body.
    I don't think it is worth the try, you can easily delay his progress up to this point similar to what happened to other tweeners like Aaron Gordon , Tobias Harris and Miles Bridges. Just let him continue his development and either bench or trade him if a better fit in terms of team building comes along. Draymond is suggesting 10-15 pound decrease that is career suicide for Keldon, at 205-210 his slashing game won't work.

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    Keldon has def earned a White level extension and if he is willing to take that you lock him up even if you don’t see him as part of the future.
    Every once in awhile you make sense. You absolutely lock him up on a deal like White’s. If need be that would be a very movable contract and player. I hope he sticks around but he’s a nice bargaining chip if you can get him into a favorable contract like that.

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    Last 10 or so games; Kj has been averaging 20.5/7/2 and since the White trade's he had a similar output. He starting to show that potential that we all saw him. This upcoming offseason, fosuc should be defense (individual and team) and adding more to his offensive game.

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    Keldon has def earned a White level extension and if he is willing to take that you lock him up even if you don’t see him as part of the future.

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