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    You're glad he broke the law. Ok.
    You are so ing stupid. He followed the law exactly getting complete info on the seller and did nothing illegal. Its a reputable commercial scrap yard.

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    DA will not spend $$$$ on iffy case involving theft of $1,000+ of stolen copper wire and homeless man who will need a public defender.

    Much less spend $$$$ on iffy case involving possession of $300+ of copper wire and homeless man who will need a public defender.
    Stealing copper and other precious metals is an automatic felony no matter the dollar amount.

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    But agree the DA won't waste his time prosecuting thieves.

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    The law says nothing about "knowing" it was stolen. It is illegal to sell stolen property. PERIOD.
    Also illegal to buy stolen property.

    Why is this so difficult for you?

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    Also illegal to buy stolen property.

    Why is this so difficult for you?
    I understand you are a ing idiot with zero reading comprehension so this is my last response to your feeble bull , cuckster.

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    I understand you are a ing idiot with zero reading comprehension so this is my last response to your feeble bull , cuckster.
    Lol angry old boomer.

    You realize I'm not the only one that tried to explain this to you, right? Why didn't you respond to Manny's post?

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    Also illegal to buy stolen property.

    Why is this so difficult for you?
    I understand you are a ing idiot with zero reading comprehension so this is my last response to your feeble bull , cuckster.


    got talked into a corner and lashes out in anger over it. Enjoy your stolen copper!

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    got talked into a corner and lashes out in anger over it. Enjoy your stolen copper!
    Nope, just sick of people that can't read and think they know that isn't true. Salvage and recycling centers have very strict rules they have to follow in do enting transactions and the law is very explicit on what is legal and what isn't. Cuck Blake in particular is obsessed with me and constantly wants to argue over the stupidest , and yes, he is a ing idiot.

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    Nope, just sick of people that can't read and think they know that isn't true. Salvage and recycling centers have very strict rules they have to follow in do enting transactions and the law is very explicit on what is legal and what isn't. Cuck Blake in particular is obsessed with me and constantly wants to argue over the stupidest , and yes, he is a ing idiot.
    The law is explicitly clear that it's illegal to buy stolen goods.

    But get angry at me some more. That'll help you win this thread.

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    lol Haven For "Hopeless".

    It's okay when the reputable scrapyard swindles you though. As long as they're not homeless untermensch then all is good.

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    Nope, just sick of people that can't read and think they know that isn't true. Salvage and recycling centers have very strict rules they have to follow in do enting transactions and the law is very explicit on what is legal and what isn't. Cuck Blake in particular is obsessed with me and constantly wants to argue over the stupidest , and yes, he is a ing idiot.
    So their buying your stolen property was legal?

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    The law says nothing about "knowing" it was stolen. It is illegal to sell stolen property. PERIOD.
    I reimbursed him his cost. I'm glad he bought it.
    He followed the law exactly getting complete info on the seller and did nothing illegal.
    The law says nothing about "knowing" it was stolen. It is illegal to sell stolen property. PERIOD.

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    Now they have you clocked, CC. Should have just left it alone, taken the loss and used your insurance if you have it. The cops, for the foreseeable future at every instance are going to shy away from (getting involved). For 2 reasons; protection of their life and the second reason...the protection of that pension. They don't want to end up without the pension and on a bread line because they busted black, or, even approached black. There is no upside. Only a downside.

    Watch your back around that business now. When you go to your car at ANYTIME be aware of the surroundings as you approach it. Don't sit in it and talk on the phone. Get in, lock it, and drive away immediately being cognizant of who joins you in traffic. Your rear view window is your crucial friend. If you can brook it, get armed and stay armed.

    Anytime you approach your home be careful about who is within sight of you. Sounds ridiculous, but circle your block as a regular tact. Seeing the same car once is okay, twice is a okay, three times? That ain't consequence. Check the street anytime BEFORE you leave your home for cars that are parked within eye sight and someone is sitting idle in it.

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    Now they have you clocked, CC. Should have just left it alone, taken the loss and used your insurance if you have it. The cops, for the foreseeable future at every instance are going to shy away from (getting involved). For 2 reasons; protection of their life and the second reason...the protection of that pension. They don't want to end up without the pension and on a bread line because they busted black, or, even approached black. There is no upside. Only a downside.
    So now it was a black thief

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    So their buying your stolen property was legal?
    yes

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    If they resold it, that would be illegal?

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    If they resold it, that would be illegal?
    *sigh*

    The Texas law on exact procedure that scrap yards have to follow. If they follow the steps it is perfectly legal.

    (3) an actor engaged in the business of buying and
    selling used or secondhand personal property, or lending money on
    the security of personal property deposited with the actor, is
    presumed to know upon receipt by the actor of stolen property (other
    than a motor vehicle subject to Chapter 501, Transportation Code)
    that the property has been previously stolen from another if the
    actor pays for or loans against the property $25 or more (or
    consideration of equivalent value) and the actor knowingly or
    recklessly:
    (A) fails to record the name, address, and
    physical description or identification number of the seller or
    pledgor;
    (B) fails to record a complete description of the
    property, including the serial number, if reasonably available, or
    other identifying characteristics; or
    (C) fails to obtain a signed warranty from the
    seller or pledgor that the seller or pledgor has the right to
    possess the property. It is the express intent of this provision
    that the presumption arises unless the actor complies with each of
    the numbered requirements;
    (4) for the purposes of Subdivision (3)(A),
    "identification number" means driver's license number, military
    identification number, identification certificate, or other
    official number capable of identifying an individual;

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    *sigh*

    The Texas law on exact procedure that scrap yards have to follow. If they follow the steps it is perfectly legal.
    It indeed can be legal to sell stolen property.

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    It indeed can be legal to sell stolen property.
    again, poor reading comprehension from the Chump

    obtain a signed warranty from the
    seller or pledgor that the seller or pledgor has the right to
    possess the property.

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    We have video of him selling the identifiable stolen property the next day. What's not to get here dip ?
    What does "identifiable stolen property" means? You either have evidence he stole it or you don't. The bag is not evidence of anything, it's his word against yours.

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    What does "identifiable stolen property" means? You either have evidence he stole it or you don't. The bag is not evidence of anything, it's his word against yours.
    The bag had my employees name stenciled on it and it came from inside our locked shop where the wire was.

    I get that the police and DA didn't want to pursue it since I didn't have video of him actually stealing it. Not sure why everyone want to keep dogging on this.

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    The law says nothing about "knowing" it was stolen. It is illegal to sell stolen property. PERIOD.
    This is re ed. Of course it doesn't say it, but it's implicit you have to demonstrate that the property at issue was indeed stolen, because that will be the first line of defense of the perpetrator.

    If you put yourself in the prosecutor shoes, he can't build a credible criminal case simply on you word that the chunk of wire was the same exact wire that was stolen from you. You will need evidence of that, which you do not have.

    This isn't a family ring, or something readily unique and identifiable. All the perpetrator needs to get away with it is reasonable doubt that the wire might not be the one that was stolen from you, which is a pretty low bar to clear.

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    again, poor reading comprehension from the Chump
    The guy who sold your stolen property signed one of those?

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    The guy who sold your stolen property signed one of those?
    yes

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    The bag had my employees name stenciled on it and it came from inside our locked shop where the wire was.

    I get that the police and DA didn't want to pursue it since I didn't have video of him actually stealing it. Not sure why everyone want to keep dogging on this.
    Because the prosecution has to present a case to a jury and convince them without a single doubt about it. It's a high bar.

    If the bag had your company logo on it, then it would've been a better case, but the fact this is a chunk of wire and a random name doesn't really prove it belonged to you.

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