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    So no 1st for thaddeus

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    To noone's surprise, it's another year of we like what we have.

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    And other teams know that. Why should they give up assets for a guy that the Spurs are most likely going to just let walk anyways?

    It would be one thing if Thad seemed to be in high demand but...apparently he's not, and his play hasn't really helped his case.
    Because there’s no guarantee that he picks your team. He can sign anywhere so if you really want to ensure you land him then they can decide how much they’re willing to give up vs. rolling the dice.

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    Donovan is saying Patrick Williams should be back before the playoffs. I doubt they’ll move him now. They’d have to be really high on Poodle or really low on Williams.

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    That’s what a buyout is. Post ASG, Thad will probably be owed $6M or so. The usual, back in the day was 50% of remaining salary. He’d give up $3M to be waived and go to a contender.
    Maybe, but the perception I have is they’ve been very generous or at least far from approaching that figure. Aldridge was the only one I recall giving back close to that 50% you suggest, but that situation felt different from the start because of the partial guarantee in his last year. That structure suggested to me there was some informal understanding/expectation baked ahead of time.

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    Looks that way… Best case is to use him for salary matching purposes.

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    https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nb...arnes-2022/amp

    “The Phoenix Suns have taken calls from the Denver Nuggets, Detroit Pistons, Washington Wizards, San Antonio Spurs, and Toronto Raptors for young backup Jalen Smith. The Pistons’ offer includes Rodney McGruder who was first included in a failed trade for Denver’s Bol Bol (now with Boston).”

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    Because there’s no guarantee that he picks your team. He can sign anywhere so if you really want to ensure you land him then they can decide how much they’re willing to give up vs. rolling the dice.
    Thus him not being in high demand. I guess we still have 4 days to find out if anyone really wants him bad enough to keep him from hitting the market...but so far, no one seems to be taking the bait.

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    Donovan is saying Patrick Williams should be back before the playoffs. I doubt they’ll move him now. They’d have to be really high on Poodle or really low on Williams.
    Why would they have moved Patrick Williams in the first place?

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    4 more days until we can stop pretending like something cool is going to happen here.
    I would be shocked if we do anything other than trade Thad, or do something like Portland/Clips, a trade that is mostly financial.

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    https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nb...arnes-2022/amp

    “The Phoenix Suns have taken calls from the Denver Nuggets, Detroit Pistons, Washington Wizards, San Antonio Spurs, and Toronto Raptors for young backup Jalen Smith. The Pistons’ offer includes Rodney McGruder who was first included in a failed trade for Denver’s Bol Bol (now with Boston).”
    I thought the team that acquires Smith can't resign him this summer, or are hamstrung badly. Is that still right? The Suns really ed themselves by declining him.

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    I would be shocked if we do anything other than trade Thad, or do something like Portland/Clips, a trade that is mostly financial.
    Yeah. There are still teams hovering above tax line, when there is a MASSIVE pay-out from tax offenders going to all teams under the line. If there's not a market for Thad as a player -- which is hard, as competing teams have few resources -- then he can possibly be moved by a team looking for that payout. They can then buy him out or whatever and come out way ahead.

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    I thought the team that acquires Smith can't resign him this summer, or are hamstrung badly. Is that still right? The Suns really ed themselves by declining him.
    Yes. This doesn’t seem to be a reliable or accurate source, although Boston or Denver might be interested as a short term asset or ending contract. Most Phoenix fan sites even acknowledge the fact.

    Interesting that I read the whole linked article, and didn’t see the Phoenix chatter anywhere.

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    I hope the spurs don’t buy him out unless he gives something back. They need to send a message to the league that the days of them buying out vets as a matter of due course is done.
    Just speculating here, but it sounds like he won't give much back because he didn't play much and get to showcase his skills for a future contract with another team. We'll know in a few days. Would be absolutely stunned if they got a 2nd rounder for him at this point.

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    Cavs acquire Lavert for a lottery protected 2022 1st and two 2nd's

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    Just speculating here, but it sounds like he won't give much back because he didn't play much and get to showcase his skills for a future contract with another team. We'll know in a few days. Would be absolutely stunned if they got a 2nd rounder for him at this point.
    If he wants to not play any more than he has, we can keep him, and sit him. He’s the one that wants out, and that will cost him $$

    There’s a mistaken thought that the team buys out the player. It’s the opposite. The player is buying his way out. He wants to go somewhere else while under contract. I have no problem with a buyout if we can’t swing a trade, but the money has to work for SA. If his reps come to the table offering a million, you wish them a nice day, and go on about your business.

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    Cavs acquire Lavert for a lottery protected 2022 1st and two 2nd's

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    Levert is not a game changer by any means, but he adds a nice scoring punch to their backcourt.

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    Levert is not a game changer by any means, but he adds a nice scoring punch to their backcourt.
    A 1st and a 2nd that'll be in the 30's (Houston) seems like alot for LaVert... I'm a little surprised with this one actually..

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    Levert is not a game changer by any means, but he adds a nice scoring punch to their backcourt.
    Also probably means they are unlikely to match any offer for Sexton which already looked probable, pre trade.

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    The expectation when trading Poeltl to another team should be that we are trading a role player for another role player.
    Washington is a decent player, but he lacks upside and as one of the rare true fours in this era, he lacks the ball skills found in the typical modern one and the size to play five full time, which means his ideal role is his current one: 7th man/24 mpg, who can toggle between positions based on matchup.

    The Spurs could be months away from selecting Murray, who might end up the same.

    Either way, Poeltl is clearly better than him. I don't see a realistic Poeltl trade and this organization needs to stop giving away good assets.


    Agreed. The question is if PATFO wants to give Jakob a new deal and what's his asking price. If they already have an agreement for another team-friendly deal, then keep him. But if he asks for too much now is the perfect time to get a good trade for him. If they don't trade him and he doesn't extend before the next season, there's only so much teams will be willing to give up for a rental.



    Yeah, I don't think it's fair to criticize him, Bulls were bad last season and current roster is a pretty bad fit for him. Bulls would probably let him go for cheap, but they need big wings and we don't have those. I don't think he should even be in discussions.
    Also, for every nephew there are like 10 OG Anunobys and 100 Stanley Johnsons.
    My guess is Poeltl is tracking towards $12-14M annually. The puts him between the two tiers of recent center extensions, 1) Capela, Allen, Adams, Valanciunas and 2) Williams, Carter Jr., Holmes, Gafford. It's a no brainer to pay him, if for no other reason than asset retention.

    Agreed, but the Bulls should strongly consider trading Williams for Grant or Barnes. They wouldn't truly contend either way, but at the same time, this is as wide open as this league gets, two of their big three are in their late prime and the odds of him becoming markedly better than them are probably slim.


    According to Marc Stein… “I don’t know if it’s a spurs thing or if the market is just quieter than expected but there just hasn’t been much Thaddeus Young discussion at all.”
    Funny how he magically lost value the second he became a Spur.

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    Levert is not a game changer by any means, but he adds a nice scoring punch to their backcourt.
    They’ve been needing something like that since Sexton went down. That’s a lot for Levert.

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    Not sure Carlisle signed up for this...

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    They’ve been needing something like that since Sexton went down. That’s a lot for Levert.
    Especially when Rubio’s expiring gave Cleveland cap space to play with this summer that possibly goes right to Levert as he is extendable.

    I guess this gives an idea of White is worth. 2 FRPs might be possible.

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    They’ve been needing something like that since Sexton went down. That’s a lot for Levert.
    Not really. A lottery protected first. They’re not gonna draft a mid round pick for what Levert will give them. I like this move for the Cavs. They needed a little more going forward.

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    The LeVert trade is important when it comes to setting the price for assets. I like the deal for both teams, not a big fan of LeVert at all but Cavs needed to get backcourt help.

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