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    World chaos

    Putin Assad
    Believing Assad and Putin...

    Makes sense.

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    Aside, the Biden Administration responding to reasonable requests for evidence by suggesting the press is in bed with Isis and Putin is Bushian. Disingenuous and outrageous, imho.

    Hope this isn't a trend.

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    Aside, the Biden Administration responding to reasonable requests for evidence by suggesting the press is in bed with Isis and Putin is Bushian. Disingenuous and outrageous, imho.

    Hope this isn't a trend.
    Absolutely, don't disagree one bit.

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    does Joe seem particularly weak, or do you say that about all Democrats?
    Any new admin, especially weak ones. Yes Joe seems particularly weak, as portrayed by the MSM.

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    CNN


    Seems that fat Zucker was what was making cnn so
    zucker

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    Damn, that woulda made my Friday!!!

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    someone is shook


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    They wont invade until Putin gets back from Beijing

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    They wont invade until Putin gets back from Beijing
    He fell asleep during the games so they will need to him wake up.

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    Wow

    An admission of error.
    Trendy.
    For our times.

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    They wont invade until Putin gets back from Beijing
    But if he waits too long we'll be in the midst of the mid-terms and he won't be be able to destroy our democracy by foisting about it in.

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    Well this is weird.


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    Not sure what's worse, the fact that Bloomberg published a false headline or the fact they admitted they had one prepared in advance, because "Russia Invades Ukraine" is so hard to type out.

    "Yeah, I accidentally had my fly down today at Church, but only because I was ing the deacon's wife in the bathroom. I'll be better at that next time"

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    U.S. officials, who discussed internal assessments of the Russian buildup on the condition that they not be identified, sketched out a series of indicators suggesting that Putin intends to start an invasion in the coming weeks, although the size and scale are unclear.

    MSM sauces

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    They wont invade until Putin gets back from Beijing
    I think you are right. He secured a treaty/understanding with China, that probably makes him think he has formed a new anti-West bloc, to keep the US/EU in check.

    Not sure when he gets back to Moscow, but if they are going to invade, that seems most likely.

    One of the best takes I have seen, insightful and nuanced:

    https://www.vox.com/22917832/vladimi...itary-invasion

    I’m still optimistic. The military wonks are very pessimistic. They think it’s almost certain that there will be an invasion. The political wonks tend to be much more optimistic. I reckon it’s about 30 percent. It’s absolutely a possibility, but I don’t think [a military escalation is] Putin’s Plan A. It’s his Plan B or his Plan C, if he can’t get what he wants or enough of what he wants by political means, means which include the intimidating presence of a large number of Russian troops and heavy metal on Ukraine’s border.


    ....

    he wants NATO basically rolled back to where it was in 1997. Countries which have already become members of NATO [such as Poland, Hungary, and Czechia] would either be kicked out or more likely would become second-class NATO members or something.

    My view is that he must know that he’s not going to get that. To some people, that proves that war will definitely happen. But we can reassure Russia without giving away things that we shouldn’t be giving away. We can’t, for example, actually say Ukraine will no longer be allowed to join NATO, even though, if we’re honest, Ukraine is not going to join NATO for at least another decade.
    Mr. Galeotti's chops:
    'Mark Galeotti, director of Mayak Intelligence, a professor at University College London, and an expert on Russian security affairs. We spoke on Zoom recently for an episode of Vox’s podcast The Weeds."

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    U.S. officials, who discussed internal assessments of the Russian buildup on the condition that they not be identified, sketched out a series of indicators suggesting that Putin intends to start an invasion in the coming weeks, although the size and scale are unclear.

    MSM sauces
    Capability is easy to determine. Motives and intent, not so much.

    All the indicators for a potential invasion are there. Last year was a show of force, lacking that.

    Read the above VOX article, it goes into some of hte deets.

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    Still waiting for this so called invasion folks

    Any minute now

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    Not sure what's worse, the fact that Bloomberg published a false headline or the fact they admitted they had one prepared in advance, because "Russia Invades Ukraine" is so hard to type out.

    "Yeah, I accidentally had my fly down today at Church, but only because I was ing the deacon's wife in the bathroom. I'll be better at that next time"
    I wouldn't discount that someone or someones might have had something to gain from the purported mistake.

    But as the hundreds of thousands of traders around the globe that use the Bloomberg Data Terminal well know, Bloomberg News first publishes many of its headlines on the Bloomberg Data Terminal – the cash cow of Bloomberg LP that has made its majority owner, Michael Bloomberg, a billionaire. Bloomberg’s largest customers for its Data Terminals include Wall Street megabanks like JPMorgan Chase that it also provides news coverage on via Bloomberg News. (Sometimes that coverage leaves a lot to be desired.)


    Exactly when traders saw that headline is not precisely known. Bloomberg News said this in its statement: “We prepare headlines for many scenarios and the headline ‘Russia Invades Ukraine’ was inadvertently published around 4 p.m. ET today on our website. We deeply regret the error. The headline has been removed and we are investigating the cause.” Right next to that statement was the black box with the familiar reminder: “Before it’s here, it’s on the Bloomberg Terminal.”


    What is known, from the chart above, is that 101,000 contracts in the E-mini S&P 500 futures traded at approximately 3:55 p.m. EST as the S&P 500 futures plunged, ostensibly as a result of that headline. That was, by far, the largest number of E-mini S&P 500 contracts traded in a short time span all day. If someone needed to exit a short position at a tidy profit, that was a very convenient headline. Stock exchanges in New York close at 4 p.m. weekdays. But the E-mini S&P 500 futures contract trades almost around the clock, from Sunday evening until 5 p.m. EST on Friday.


    Bloomberg LP isn’t just the owner of Bloomberg News and the Bloomberg Data Terminal. It also owns a trading platform called Tradebook, which is in business with Goldman Sachs. Tradebook’s website tells us this:


    “Equity: Ins utional buy-side firms can access Goldman Sachs’ world-class execution platform, robust liquidity offering, and breadth of global services through Bloomberg Tradebook. Clients can save invaluable time and make more informed trading decisions by leveraging Bloomberg’s world-class data, analytics and technology all directly from the Terminal.”
    https://wallstreetonparade.com/2022/...-untold-story/

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    "about to blow"

    "combustible"

    The crisis in Ukraine is becoming what I have always thought of as “a powder keg story.” This has long been my private shorthand for a calamitous event, usually a war or a revolution, which governments and news outlets bill as imminent and probably inevitable, while the reporters on the ground discover that nothing much is actually happening.


    The powder keg analogy is so useful because a journalist can write about the explosive ingredients in a situation without saying if they are going to detonate tomorrow, in a decade, or perhaps never.


    No deception on the part of the reporter is involved, though news consumers back home may miss the point that they are reading, viewing or listening to dramatic things that could happen, but have not yet done so and may not, in point of fact, ever occur.
    https://inews.co.uk/opinion/ukraine-...ing-so-1443810

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    Casting critics as unpatriotic is a propaganda bonus, Hitchens isn't wrong that voters blame Trump's surrender to the Taliban on Joe Biden.

    The opportunity to pillory critics as unpatriotic is one of the chief reasons why governments like to cultivate war hysteria. This may also explain why Washington and London have been making wild claims and talking up the prospects of a new European war. President Biden desperately needs to rebound from the damaging impression made on US voters by America’s humiliating defeat by the Taliban in Afghanistan.

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    Not sure what's worse, the fact that Bloomberg published a false headline or the fact they admitted they had one prepared in advance, because "Russia Invades Ukraine" is so hard to type out.

    "Yeah, I accidentally had my fly down today at Church, but only because I was ing the deacon's wife in the bathroom. I'll be better at that next time"
    They had more than the headline prepared in advance.
    Thats not unusual.

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    I think it is notable that not only did Russian start this buildup and leave lots of material in place on the border, they have amassed a large number of troops and machinery. The military strategist say they could easily take Ukraine and Kyiv. Its out of the ordinary. And fighting has kept going on in regions even though it is not in the headlines. People are getting killed here via snipers as well as the occasional artillery assault.

    So call it what ever you want. But Russian does not normally move the majority of their military towards Ukraine in the Winter. We already have examples of these invasions so I dont know what words are supposed to be used for a situation Putin clearly wanted to happen and talked about.

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    I think it is notable that not only did Russian start this buildup and leave lots of material in place on the border, they have amassed a large number of troops and machinery. The military strategist say they could easily take Ukraine and Kyiv. Its out of the ordinary. And fighting has kept going on in regions even though it is not in the headlines. People are getting killed here via snipers as well as the occasional artillery assault.

    So call it what ever you want. But Russian does not normally move the majority of their military towards Ukraine in the Winter. We already have examples of these invasions so I dont know what words are supposed to be used for a situation Putin clearly wanted to happen and talked about.
    War could break out, sure. It's also possible Putin is trying to use the buildup for diplomatic advantage. Time will tell, prediction is a fool's game.

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    War could break out, sure. It's also possible Putin is trying to use the buildup for diplomatic advantage. Time will tell, prediction is a fool's game.
    Well, in the sage words of the Effy,,,"Dale is rootin' for the Pootin'."

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