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    Kings have been in the lottery for like 13 straight years. They should be booted for a year.
    The nba needs relegation to the gleague.

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    Wow...stunned that Sac picked Fox over Hali
    Shocked that they picked a guy making a max contract over a guy on a rookie deal. I'm not. Who is paying a 100 million for Fox? I'm sure if someone wanted to then he would have gotten traded instead of Hali.

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    Danilo to Raptors it seems. Probably takes Raps out of Jakob sweepstakes

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    The nba needs relegation to the gleague.
    I would love to see that model in NBA

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    This trade demonstrates that there are, for certain, suckers as GMs at any time in the NBA who can be had in a trade if you are aggressive and a good communicator as an opposing GM. Pacers won this trade and it's not even close. Crazy stuff tbh.

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    ing Sacramento… what a poverty franchise, goddamn. Their fan base doesn’t deserve this. Ridiculous.

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    Fox is one of those guys who after two seasons looked like a future star. He was one of the fastest PGs in the league and had just come off a year where he shot 37% from three, after shooting 31% as a rookie. All of his numbers, both raw & advanced, improved from rookie year to sop re year. If this arc had continued in years three and four he would've been a star, but it didn't. After five seasons, his career 3 pt% is 31%, his defense is consistently in the negative, and his assist numbers are relatively average. He's a pretty good example of how tough it can be to gauge a player's future progress. Two or three years ago, I think most people would've said that Fox was ahead of Dejounte in terms of development, but I'm guessing that right now, many scouts & coaches would call Dejounte the better player at the moment & for the prospect of the future.

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    Still laughing……. Some of you broads better not cry another tear in regards to Patfo after witnessing this BS today��������

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    Shocked that they picked a guy making a max contract over a guy on a rookie deal. I'm not. Who is paying a 100 million for Fox? I'm sure if someone wanted to then he would have gotten traded instead of Hali.
    They could have moved Fox elsehwere. The fact that they doubled down on their stupidity and traded their best young player on a rookie deal is idiotic. I'm saying that Sacramento choosing to keep Fox and trade Haliburton is dumb as especially given what they got out of it.

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    Fox is one of those guys who after two seasons looked like a future star. He was one of the fastest PGs in the league and had just come off a year where he shot 37% from three, after shooting 31% as a rookie. All of his numbers, both raw & advanced, improved from rookie year to sop re year. If this arc had continued in years three and four he would've been a star, but it didn't. After five seasons, his career 3 pt% is 31%, his defense is consistently in the negative, and his assist numbers are relatively average. He's a pretty good example of how tough it can be to gauge a player's future progress. Two or three years ago, I think most people would've said that Fox was ahead of Dejounte in terms of development, but I'm guessing that right now, many scouts & coaches would call Dejounte the better player at the moment & for the prospect of the future.
    If we had fox, his development would have probably better��.

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    ing Sacramento… what a poverty franchise, goddamn. Their fan base doesn’t deserve this. Ridiculous.
    The Kings have selected in the lottery for 15 straight years and counting (!!) and their fans still show up and fill that arena for the most part. That’s a passionate fan base and they deserve so much better. Seriously.

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    Fox is one of those guys who after two seasons looked like a future star. He was one of the fastest PGs in the league and had just come off a year where he shot 37% from three, after shooting 31% as a rookie. All of his numbers, both raw & advanced, improved from rookie year to sop re year. If this arc had continued in years three and four he would've been a star, but it didn't. After five seasons, his career 3 pt% is 31%, his defense is consistently in the negative, and his assist numbers are relatively average. He's a pretty good example of how tough it can be to gauge a player's future progress. Two or three years ago, I think most people would've said that Fox was ahead of Dejounte in terms of development, but I'm guessing that right now, many scouts & coaches would call Dejounte the better player at the moment & for the prospect of the future.
    this tbh

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    unbelievable heist for Indiana wow

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    Monte McNair should be forced to resign tbh.

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    im glad we didnt trade for sabonis if that was the asking price


    Same. Would’ve been a weird fit here anyways. Glad we stayed away.

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    Fox has games where you watch him and wonder why he’s not an All-Star, especially when his pull-up mid-range is falling, and then he’ll follow it up with games where he’s a black hole offensively no matter how poorly he’s shooting. Makes you scratch your head. He’s an average defender at best despite solid length for a PG, but I’ve seen games where he literally just doesn’t try at all on that end. Wild inconsistency and lazy defense are a bad combo.

    He just turned 24 though so he still has a chance to prove he’s a starting caliber PG on a good team, but I wouldn’t bank on it given his lazy defensive tendencies. Could see him being a difference maker as a 3rd or 4th option somewhere eventually. We’ll see. Time will tell.

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    According to the NY Post the Knicks are trying to get Barnes from Sacramento. The article says thibbs wants a 3/4 type and doesn't like Reddish for that role...fwiw

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    According to the NY Post the Knicks are trying to get Barnes from Sacramento. The article says thibbs wants a 3/4 type and doesn't like Reddish for that role...fwiw
    Read the other day that Thibbs didn't want the FO to trade for Reddish at all. Lol that team is already on the road to total implosion

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    Sabonis > Haliburton
    For now.

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    Read the other day that Thibbs didn't want the FO to trade for Reddish at all. Lol that team is already on the road to total implosion
    I agree...Thibbs is a tough one to work with...he's stubborn and he's gonna play his guys all the minutes and wear them out....if you're gonna have him as a coach you should probably be committed to letting him have his way instead of forcing players on him....just let him sink or swim on his own..

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    Beal's out for the season...

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    lol no way. There is no way to make Sabonis an efficient piece. I don't even know if he would be a good 6th man. The only thing he does is take a team up to the play-in. 8th seed is the ceiling for a Sabonis team. That should mean the Kings finish before us, which is great. Also the Pacers should get better with this move, which means they can overtake us in the standings as well. 5th pick is still in play
    Haliburton was not better than Sabonis on any of his days in the NBA, he at most has an abstract potential (like Rubio one day), which possibly won't mean anything, and the main thing: he has nothing close to the production of Sabonis on the court.

    yep
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    Beal's out for the season...
    My fantasy team is in shambles.

    I mean, it already was, but is still is. More shambles. It's shamblier.

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    Wonder if the Spurs will make a run at Beal in the off-season

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    Haliburton was not better than Sabonis on any of his days in the NBA, he at most has an abstract potential (like Rubio one day), which possibly won't mean anything, and the main thing: he has nothing close to the production of Sabonis on the court.

    Are you serious? Like Rubio? Do you even watch games? Even if you don't, they're nowhere near the same.
    It took Rubio almost a decade to become a decent 3pt shooter, Haliburton is already averaging 40% on 5 attempts per game and he takes a lot of pull-up 3s.

    I'm not saying he's a superstar in the making, but he's a 6'5 point guard who looks like he's going to be a great shooter and he's already a very good defender. Perfect for modern NBA.

    On the other hand you have Fox and Sabonis. Both of them put up numbers, but both are abysmal defenders and have no range.
    Fox is starving man's young Russ and Sabonis was born in the wrong era. Unless a big can put up monster numbers in the post, he's not worth the max if he provides no spacing and is awful on defense.

    Kings are already one of the worst shooting teams in the league and they did nothing to address that. Instead they traded their two best shooters for guys who're average on a good day.


    You don't trade a 21 year old 40% 3pt shooter who's also a great playmaker and a good defender for a big who's awful defensively and can't shoot, either.

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