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Bigs take longer to develop then perimeter players tbh I’d be happy to take the gamble on Bagley. On another note, wonder if Twolves would consider throwing in Leandro Bolmaro in a Thad young trade
I'm just spit-ballin' here, but Thad Young to Golden State makes sense to me.
He'd be a great back-up for Draymond in the playoffs.
Wiseman and a pick would be best-case.
Bigs take longer to develop then perimeter players tbh I’d be happy to take the gamble on Bagley. On another note, wonder if Twolves would consider throwing in Leandro Bolmaro in a Thad young trade
This. Bagley is . Would be the type of moronic trade the Kings would make if they were on the other end. Just a stupid trade idea altogether.
Bagleys QO for next year is $15M. Hard pass. He’s like maybe a $5M player, and you’ll never get him for that if you’re holding his Bird rights. If and when he crashes and burns and is released by someone, I’d be willing to take a chance as a cheap FA reclamation. I’d never give up an asset for him, and his contract would be unguaranteed.
The bad thing about bust high picks is they keep getting more and more expensive, even if they’re not improving.
, man, we should probably trade Thad Young for Steph Curry.
It’s not that Bagley doesn’t have any untapped potential. But to offer up your starting 2-Guard who, despite his struggles, is still a solid two-way basketball player on a nice contract for a vastly overpaid project who hasn’t shown much other than the occasional flash here and there on a really bad team to me would be insanity.
He’s averaging 9 PPG on 46% shooting on a terrible Kings team. Not a good defender of rebounder, doesn’t really do anything particularly well. Can’t shoot the 3 at all. His offense consists of short hook and push shots. I agree they’re the worst run organization in the NBA, and that certainly hasn’t helped his development, but I just don’t see much from him to warrant giving up a real asset. That’s all.
No. I would rather have the 2nd and the cap space and it's not really close.
No. I would rather have the 2nd and the cap space and it's not really close.
Uh, not sure if serious?
Bagley's not positive value. I wouldn't trade Thad and a second for him. I'd trade Thad for him and a second though.
Ive been thinking about a trade like this for a few months:
MIN: Young & Walker
SAS: Prince, Bolmaro, & some kind of draft compensation
Maybe they are more inclined to make a trade now that Sacramento and New Orleans are making moves.
I’m watching Bagley’s highlights. I know the QO is 15mil, but this guy can do everything, has guard handles, euro-step, step-back 3, likes to finish ally-ops, blocks crazy, can cover perimeter, and he fills Spurs’ need for PF. And he’s 22. Maybe the problem is Sacramento.
Thad makes great sense for Golden State, but I'd say there's no way it's for anything more than a SRP.
Yall do realize We could just not offer the QO for Bagley. We can still resign him to a lower amount then that. We would lose his bird rights so we could not go over the cap to sign him if we dont offer the QO. We also would lose the right to match another team. Since we have cap space this summer being able to go over the cap is not a problem. If we knew someone was going to give him a high offer hopefully we would know and if we wanted to could offer him the same or more and then he would get to decide where to play.
Would I trade white for him. no not even close. Would I trade thad for him. I probably would. It gets us to see how he would play on our team. I would be more worried about his and his dads antics more then if he would be good or not. If he is not good you just bench him. If him or his dad acts up it could hurt the team moral which I think is high right now.
We got our Juancho, please lock this thread admins.
So according to Woj the league was stunned Kings were shopping Haliburton at all, everyone believed they'd build around him instead. They really didn't do their due diligence and let everyone make their offer before they pulled the trigger on this trade a couple of days before the deadline, seriously? A random reddit poster would be more rational than their FO.
Sabonis is a great player. They got rid of Hield's contract. They desperately need to keep Barnes now and get some defensive versatility.
If the spurs really wanted him, they could just offer him a deal as a RFA this summer or wait until he’s a UFA next summer.I’m watching Bagley’s highlights. I know the QO is 15mil, but this guy can do everything, has guard handles, euro-step, step-back 3, likes to finish ally-ops, blocks crazy, can cover perimeter, and he fills Spurs’ need for PF
I think he has value, but teams are wanting to get him for peanuts once he’s off this current deal.
YouTube highlights won’t show him drifting thru games, not impacting them, much like Lonnie. I mean, if you ONLY looked at highlights, Lonnie would appear to be one of the best young guards in the NBA, and we all know that’s not the case.I’m watching Bagley’s highlights. I know the QO is 15mil, but this guy can do everything, has guard handles, euro-step, step-back 3, likes to finish ally-ops, blocks crazy, can cover perimeter, and he fills Spurs’ need for PF
Ok, so why trade for him at all and opposed to waiting until the summer? As one of the teams with space, Spurs could offer him a 3 year deal starting at his current salary but make years 2, 3 only partially guaranteed ala Zollins. Kings probably don’t match.
Well of course they did because to trade Fox is to say we made a 100 million dollar mistake and that kind of stuff gets you fired. The spurs faced a similar situation with Poeltl to a much lesser degree. There were some posters here who thought he would not sign here after his rookie deal. But with all signs pointing to Derozan leaving and Luka having washed out, if Poeltl had left the Spurs would have effectively traded Kawhi Leonard for the rights to draft Keldon Johnson, which is an all time bad trade. They were always going to sign Poeltl to a second deal for no other reason than to save face. It is highly likely they will sign him to a 3rd contract at way more money regardless of if it helps the team or not for the same reason. I also think it's the reason the reason the price on him is so high.
Bagley is good prospect that may be salvageable. Lonnie’s problem is between the ears……..
Bagley’s is too tbh. Aside from his low bball IQ, he doesn’t play defense, rebound, or shoot 3’s. Kings have basically been trying to actively get rid of him for 2 seasons now and he’s still on their roster. Should tell you something.
They desperately need to surround him with shooters since they just traded 2 of the only 3 they had. Barnes is the only one they have left on the roster who can since neither Fox nor Mitc shoot 3’s. Their two best players are now non-shooters who are surrounded by non-shooters outside of Barnes. They’re going to continue to suck ass until they add some shooters to that roster.
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