Spurs Trade Rumor Thread (Spurs eyeing Collins, Osman? Fielding calls on Jak?)

[Mr. Body]

The word has really sharpened that Nets and Philly are swapping their disaffected players. Nets are tanking and need a major shift; the rules changes have turned Harden ordinary, the Sixers need to push for the Trophy now and they're close. I think Simmons is a bit of a joke, but he might be okay in Brooklyn. Mystery team does suggest a team like the Spurs who play it close to the vest. There to facilitate a huge deal with smaller pieces or expirings.

[RC_Drunkford]

this trade would be funny. I read that the Sixers have 2 teams lined up who would absorb Harris' contract into cap space in the offseason, so they can free up money to make a run at Harden. I don't think that's a good move for Philly though. Harden is 33 and wants a max contract. That could turn into a liability very soon. If the Spurs can somehow get into this and get some assets out of it while helping to facilitate this kind of move I'm all for it.

[Ocotillo]

The discussion of Bagley reminds me of Trey Lyles in that Lyles was a lottery pick four who underperformed and was signed on a low cost free agent deal by the Spurs. That may be the only way Bagley dons the silver and black.

[baseline bum]

That’s every player who left the Lakers tbh

Julian and Lonzo aren't stars lol

[Dverde]

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Just imagine if Indy can get Haliburton and ship off the Buddy Hield contract for something better…that’s like that Kevin Costner Game Day stuff

[baseline bum]

I am stretching a bit here because he wasn't but Wiggins is an example of someone who is really starting to shine.

IDK, Wiggins still kind of strikes me as empty stats

[Leetonidas]

Bagley can play period point blank, his at ude very well be the hindrance! If he is shipped here it might save his career

What makes you think he can play "period point blank" cus everything I've seen suggests otherwise.

Spurs don't take on at ude players crying about their role and touches, especially when they haven't proven . Your fascination with him is solely because he was a #2 pick. He isn't getting traded here

[exstatic]

IDK, Wiggins still kind of strikes me as empty stats

He’s Danny Green: an underachiever who achieved when surrounded by HOF players who draw all of the attention.

[John B]

Spurs fans love Trey Lyles, Sabonis, Marvin Bagley, Julius Randle.
But please don’t trade for John Collins, the only one of these guys who would actually improve the team

I like John Collins trade. But then again, the upside he has over Bagley is Bagley’s questionable motor and at ude. Everything else, Bagley is more a complete player. Bagley can post, create for himself, has guards handles and facilitate. Collins needs a pnr guard to get him going. It’s a big IF, but IF Spurs can get Bagley going, he’s a better complete player than Collins.

[baseline bum]

this trade would be funny. I read that the Sixers have 2 teams lined up who would absorb Harris' contract into cap space in the offseason, so they can free up money to make a run at Harden. I don't think that's a good move for Philly though. Harden is 33 and wants a max contract. That could turn into a liability very soon. If the Spurs can somehow get into this and get some assets out of it while helping to facilitate this kind of move I'm all for it.

As fast as Harden is declining, not like Philly can get better than this trade with what Simmons' value is right now. Would love to see the Spurs land a first for taking on some salary or something to make this deal work though.

[Atl Spur]

What makes you think he can play "period point blank" cus everything I've seen suggests otherwise.

Spurs don't take on at ude players crying about their role and touches, especially when they haven't proven . Your fascination with him is solely because he was a #2 pick. He isn't getting traded here

Why ask me the question if you already tell me my answer? I’m pretty clear in my post concerning my rationale Relax homie

[Dex]

He’s Danny Green: an underachiever who achieved when surrounded by HOF players who draw all of the attention.

The fact that Danny Green broke Ray Allen's Finals record still blows my mind...and in 5 games, no less.

Like basically, Miami had to pick their poison...and their choice was to let Danny shoot and live with the results. Danny proved them wrong for 5 games, but was never the same once they adjusted and is now just another role player floating around the NBA.

[John B]

What makes you think he can play "period point blank" cus everything I've seen suggests otherwise.

Spurs don't take on at ude players crying about their role and touches, especially when they haven't proven . Your fascination with him is solely because he was a #2 pick. He isn't getting traded here

I don’t think you ever watch him play. Agreed with Ex that he could drifts in games. But his skills are unquestionable, and for a 6’10”. Post, rebound, block, guard handles, drives coast to coast, euro-step, step-back 3’s, finishes ally-ops? Not skilled?? Lol

Agreed it’s not Spursy, but heck a lot of not-so-Spursy players are kicking ass out there. And yes he’s not the kind Spurs would sign anytime soon. It’s just a discussion why sometimes, maybe sometimes it might be worth it to take a swing and not just bunt.

[RC_Drunkford]

I like John Collins trade. But then again, the upside he has over Bagley is Bagley’s questionable motor and at ude. Everything else, Bagley is more a complete player. Bagley can post, create for himself, has guards handles and facilitate. Collins needs a pnr guard to get him going. It’s a big IF, but IF Spurs can get Bagley going, he’s a better complete player than Collins.

there's literally no statistical evidence that supports what you are saying. Comparing Collins' per 36 numbers from this season with Bagley's from any season shows that Collins is a better player in EVERY category except rebounds where Bagley gets 1 more. Collins also shoots far better percentages from everywhere on the floor than Bagley. He's better in every field in Raptor ranking. And let's not talk about being the roll man, because Collins is basically the best player in the entire NBA when it comes to that.

And by the way Collins generated 0.2 more points per posession on post ups than Bagley last season. So how is Bagley a better post player?

[John B]

Julian and Lonzo aren't stars lol

Cherry picking these two But yes, Randle was selected AS in 2020-21. If that doesn’t make him a star, then you’re saying DJ is not as a replacement

Point is, yes there have been plenty of players in bad organizations and became stars elsewhere. Again pointing out ex-Lakers picks here.

[John B]

there's literally no statistical evidence that supports what you are saying. Comparing Collins' per 36 numbers from this season with Bagley's from any season shows that Collins is a better player in EVERY category except rebounds where Bagley gets 1 more. Collins also shoots far better percentages from everywhere on the floor than Bagley. He's better in every field in Raptor ranking. And let's not talk about being the roll man, because Collins is basically the best player in the entire NBA when it comes to that.

And by the way Collins generated 0.2 more points per posession on post ups than Bagley last season. So how is Bagley a better post player?

If Bagley is the better player NOW, then he wouldn’t be in a trade discussion, would he? I said Bagley’s skills are more complete as pointed out. And yes IF Spurs could get him playing at his potentials, he could be a franchise player, and yes better than Collins. Again it could be high risk, but franchise altering rewards IF he pans out.

[RC_Drunkford]

If Bagley is the better player NOW, then he wouldn’t be in a trade discussion, would he? I said Bagley’s skills are more complete as pointed out. And yes IF Spurs could get him playing at his potentials, he could be a franchise player, and yes better than Collins. Again it could be high risk, but franchise altering rewards IF he pans out.

you are literally the Sacramento Kings of Spurstalk Do you work for their front office?

[Dejounte]

Midnight tonight is the deadline or midnight tomorrow?

[RC_Drunkford]

Thursday, Feb. 10 at 3 p.m. ET

[Leetonidas]

I don’t think you ever watch him play. Agreed with Ex that he could drifts in games. But his skills are unquestionable, and for a 6’10”. Post, rebound, block, guard handles, drives coast to coast, euro-step, step-back 3’s, finishes ally-ops? Not skilled?? Lol

Agreed it’s not Spursy, but heck a lot of not-so-Spursy players are kicking ass out there. And yes he’s not the kind Spurs would sign anytime soon. It’s just a discussion why sometimes, maybe sometimes it might be worth it to take a swing and not just bunt.

I don't think the word skilled appeared in my post at all.

Yall are seriously missing the point. But if you wanna keep fawning over a player the entire league won't take for free because you're so sure you know something the rest of the NBA doesnt...by all means

[r0drig0lac]

I like John Collins trade. But then again, the upside he has over Bagley is Bagley’s questionable motor and at ude. Everything else, Bagley is more a complete player. Bagley can post, create for himself, has guards handles and facilitate. Collins needs a pnr guard to get him going. It’s a big IF, but IF Spurs can get Bagley going, he’s a better complete player than Collins.

and I'm still waiting for the list of posters that don't want a "Collins trade", as this is being talked about here as if it's common opinion on the forum.

[John B]

you are literally the Sacramento Kings of Spurstalk Do you work for their front office?

Nice ad hominem come back. Listen, it doesn't affect me whatever Spurs does. Just a fan in smoke break

[Dex]

Midnight tonight is the deadline or midnight tomorrow?

3PM ET tomorrow

[slick'81]

So nothing on the spurs front?

[Dex]

So nothing on the spurs front?

Uh....it would be in this thread, or on the front page if something was happening.