why are super red states dystopian holes?

[Ef-man]

he doesn't even attempt to say why Wyoming is high.

Called it.

DMC is a pussy.

He will not be pawed at nor interviewed so he has you on ignore.

You must have hurt him, again.

[Trill Clinton]

Interesting to see the board race baiters managed to drag black people in this discussion

[ChumpDumper]

He will not be pawed at nor interviewed so he has you on ignore.

You must have hurt him, again.

But now he'll be compelled to post about me.

He'll never talk about why blacks have high numbers either. His race bait is set so he'll just honestly broker about other men here from now on.

[DMC]

Infant mortality rate by state


Black population by state



Infant mortality rate by race

You cry about CRT and BLM but if you had a brain cell you'd have made the connection and not considered this part of a red/blue issue.

You're basically a mid-functioning re .

Now you need to run along and figure out why blacks have a higher infant mortality rate after you label the information racist.

Interesting to see the board race baiters managed to drag black people in this discussion

They're your kids, fam.

[DMC]

He will not be pawed at nor interviewed so he has you on ignore.

You must have hurt him, again.

This was from the CDC in 1987

Infant Mortality Among Black Americans
The recent slowing in the rate of decline in infant mortality and the disparity in the risk of infant death between racial and ethnic subgroups have attracted considerable attention (3,4). In 1984, infant mortality for blacks was 18.4 deaths/1,000 births; this was approximately twice that for whites, which was 9.4 deaths/1,000 births (5). A twofold disparity in infant mortality between black and white infants existed for the time period 1960-1984, and there was a 59% reduction in the infant deaths/1,000 live births over that time for both blacks and whites (5,6). From 1960 to 1984, declines in the neonatal mortality rate* were greater for whites than for blacks (64% compared with 58%), whereas the reduction in the postneonatal mortality rate** was greater for blacks than for whites (60% compared with 43%) (Figure 1).

Analysis from the National Infant Mortality Surveillance (NIMS)S project, a tabulation of data from linked birth and infant death certificates for live births occurring among U.S. residents in 1980, provides a more complete description of the disparity in infant mortality risk (IMR)P between blacks and whites (7). This is the most recent year for which linked birth and infant death data are available for the United States. Although the race-specific risk for infant death varied among states, within states the IMR for blacks was generally two times the risk for whites. In one analysis, the lowest state-specific IMR for single-delivery black infants (12.5) was higher than the highest mortality risk for whites (10.1) (8). There were also differences in the race-specific risk of infant death between U.S. census regions, with IMRs for blacks ranging from 16.5 to 20.7 and for whites, from 8.8 to 9.8. In all regions, however, the IMR for blacks was approximately twice that for whites (9).

Analysis of NIMS data revealed three factors contributing to the difference between the IMRs for black and white infants. First, blacks have a higher percentage of low birthweight births than whites. Black infants in this study had approximately three times the risk that white infants had of being born weighing 1,500g (2.1% compared with 0.7%); they had over two times the risk of having a birthweight of 1,500-2,499g (9.2% compared with 4.2%). Low birthweight is the most important determinant of infant survival, and infants with low birthweights suffer the highest mortality risks (10). A recent comprehensive review has provided an inventory of factors that increases the risk of low birthweight (11). These include demographic, medical, and behavioral risk factors, many of which are more prevalent among black Americans than among white Americans.

The other two factors contributing to the elevated IMR among blacks are neonatal deaths among infants with birthweights greater than or equal to 2,500g and postneonatal deaths among infants in all birthweight categories (12). Black infants with birthweights 2,500g had a lower neonatal mortality risk (NMR)** than white infants, but blacks with birthweights greater than or equal to 2,500g had a higher NMR than whites with comparable birthweights. Black neonatal survivors experienced a higher postneonatal mortality risk (PNMR)**** in all birthweight categories (Table 1 (12)).

To describe the causes of death among black compared with white infants, the international classification of disease codes, ninth revision, was aggregated into seven categories (Table 2 (13)). Except for congenital anomalies, the overall NMRs among blacks, for all causes of death, were approximately twice those among whites. During the postneonatal period, black infants were at higher risk of dying from all causes, including those that are preventable and those that are subject to intervention efforts.

If black infants born in 1980 in the United States had experienced the same birthweight distribution and birthweight-specific mortality risk as white infants, there would have been 5,526 (51%) fewer single-delivery black infant deaths. Of this total, 75% occurred among infants with birthweights 2,500g (59% in the neonatal period and 16% in the postneonatal period), and 25% occurred among infants with birthweights greater than or equal to 2,500g (7% in the neonatal period and 18% in the postneonatal period) (Figure 2). Reported by Pregnancy Epidemiology Br, Research and Statistics Br, Div of Reproductive Health, Center for Health Promotion and Education, CDC.


Obviously the disparity still exists. So it stands to reason states with higher black populations would have a higher infant mortality rate. You'd think an engineer would understand this.

[Ef-man]

ND, SD and WY have low black populations (about 3% in three states).

Someone else’s kids are dying.

[boutons_deux]

Interesting to see the board race baiters managed to drag black people in this discussion

Non-whites dying at higher rates then whites is irrefutable evidence of CRT,. Of non-whites getting less treatment, less aggressive treatment for the same symptoms as whites

[DMC]

ND, SD and WY have low black populations (about 3% in three states).

Someone else’s kids are dying.

Tell the CDC that their statistics on infant death rate are wrong, show them ND, SD and WY.

[Ef-man]

Tell the CDC that their statistics on infant death rate are wrong, show them ND, SD and WY.

So you did not see that the first CDC chart shows infant mortality rate for all races? Go figure you used this anyways.

There was no data available on African American infant mortality rates for these three states in this site, so number is probably close to zero as there was info on other races.

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...2:%22asc%22%7D

And since that there are so few blacks in those three primarily white raced but red politically states, this strengthens RGs comments.

So RGs comment seems reasonable as it appears that having Republican leadership leads to a higher infant mortality rate.

[DMC]

So you did not see that the first CDC chart shows infant mortality rate for all races? Go figure you used this anyways.

There was no data available on African American infant mortality rates for these three states in this site, so number is probably close to zero as there was info on other races.

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...2:%22asc%22%7D

And since that there are so few blacks in those three primarily white raced but red politically states, this strengthens RGs comments.

So RGs comment seems reasonable as it appears that having Republican leadership leads to a higher infant mortality rate.

Montana has a lower infant mortality rate than most of the blue states. Explain that since it's red vs blue.



You can deny science all you like.

[DMC]

Obviously no correlation because of Wyoming

You don't understand statistics
You think the political parties kill babies
You're pro-abortion

[Ef-man]

Montana has a lower infant mortality rate than most of the blue states. Explain that since it's red vs blue.



You can deny science all you like.

You are a lazy ass .

You are deflecting by bringing up Montana (but you that by putting MS data, idiot) when you still cannot explain WY, SD, ND, chop, chop.

[DMC]

You are a lazy ass .

You are deflecting by bringing up Montana (but you that by putting MS data, idiot) when you still cannot explain WY, SD, ND, chop, chop.

I don't need to explain it. If you think a couple low pop states disprove the assertion (and the science), you must accept that Montana disproves the red state assertion. Chop chop.

btw, the IMR of blacks in Mississippi including all counties is 13.4. For whites it's 6.33. It's obvious then that the IMR is weighed down by racial disparity in the highest black population states which happen to be in the South. Like all things, there are exceptions that can be explained by limited data sets.

You can argue all you like with the stats and the science.

Washington DC, for example..

https://datacenter.kidscount.org/dat...17,3,818/11162

The disparity here is stark, some years having a disparity factor of 8+. White IMR 1.7, black IMR 13.6

Maryland, 10 vs 4.2.

[Ef-man]

I don't need to explain it. If you think a couple low pop states disprove the assertion (and the science), you must accept that Montana disproves the red state assertion. Chop chop.

btw, the IMR of blacks in Mississippi including all counties is 13.4. For whites it's 6.33. It's obvious then that the IMR is weighed down by racial disparity in the highest black population states which happen to be in the South. Like all things, there are exceptions that can be explained by limited data sets.

You can argue all you like with the stats and the science.

Washington DC, for example..

https://datacenter.kidscount.org/dat...17,3,818/11162

The disparity here is stark, some years having a disparity factor of 8+. White IMR 1.7, black IMR 13.6

Maryland, 10 vs 4.2.

Triggered much? Easy to see as you are editing your posts but you avoid issue of WY, Nd, SD, again, idiot.

[DMC]

Triggered much? Easy to see as you are editing your posts but you avoid issue of WY, Nd, SD, again, idiot.

You're still hurting over The Patent™.

I edit because I'm not Winehole who posts 20 consecutive times to make one statement.

[Ef-man]

You're still hurting over The Patent™.

I edit because I'm not Winehole who posts 20 consecutive times to make one statement.

You continue to deflect and edit like the idiot that you are.

You do not need to explain! .

You concede to RG, else, WY, SD, and ND, chop, chop, before trump steals their furniture too!

[RandomGuy]

On cue you call these facts racist.

I never said we look bad, that was you who said "dystopian holes"

I simply showed you that black babies die at a rate of 2:1 vs white babies. Since you consider these states with the highest black populations to be dystopian holes, perhaps you need to explain why black babies die at a higher rate nationwide, and there just happens to be more black people in those states.

That's what you should focus on, instead you focus on the red/blue aspect.

And Wyoming has about half a million people in the whole state. It doesn't take a lot of deaths to equate to a higher ratio. Even then, the black infant death ratio nationally is about 2x that of Wyoming's infant death ratio.

I didn't call hte facts racist you stupid twit.

I said YOU were racist for saying "it wuz teh blacks"

[RandomGuy]

And Wyoming has about half a million people in the whole state. It doesn't take a lot of deaths to equate to a higher ratio. Even then, the black infant death ratio nationally is about 2x that of Wyoming's infant death ratio.

LOL math challenged DMC.

I was going to let you off the hook with a math lesson, but you are an inherently dishonest and evil person, soooooo no.

Please walk me through the math of how 0.96% of Wyomings 1/2 million people are skewing the overall average for the state.

500,000 * .096 = 48,000 population in question
48,000*.5 = 24,000 women in population
24,000*.5= 12,000 females capable of giving birth

500,000 * .91 = 455,000
455,000*.5 = 227,500 women in population
113,750*.5= 113,750 females capable of giving birth

sooooo care to explain how 1/10 of a population can have so many dead infants that they skew a rate so badly for the rest of the state?

Maybe you can explain how every single one of these women can magically produce what? four infants per year?

Or... continue to your autistic screeching about racist facts.

[RandomGuy]

I don't need to explain it. If you think a couple low pop states disprove the assertion (and the science), you must accept that Montana disproves the red state assertion. Chop chop.

btw, the IMR of blacks in Mississippi including all counties is 13.4. For whites it's 6.33. It's obvious then that the IMR is weighed down by racial disparity in the highest black population states which happen to be in the South. Like all things, there are exceptions that can be explained by limited data sets.

You can argue all you like with the stats and the science.

Washington DC, for example..

https://datacenter.kidscount.org/dat...17,3,818/11162

The disparity here is stark, some years having a disparity factor of 8+. White IMR 1.7, black IMR 13.6

Maryland, 10 vs 4.2.

Hypothesis:
Republican polices, in their totality, cause states to be dystopian holes.

Dystopian holes: high infant mortality, low educational attainment, and measurably shorter lifespans. Call it below national average in two out of three measures. (maybe just do all three? easy to run both definitions)

I will at some point this weekend run correlative analysis between party in control of the government to these three factors. datasets are pretty easy to find.

Control of government = executive and at least one legislative branch of government

You can try to be all racist and say "its teh blacks", and I will then ask you why Republican policies appear to be so closely related to black poverty. Another question your dishonest ass will not answer.

For your own reading:
https://www.scribbr.com/statistics/c...n-coefficient/

A correlation coefficient is a number between -1 and 1 that tells you the strength and direction of a relationship between variables.

First comparison:
Variable 1: Republican control of state government
Variable 2: Infant mortality rate

Second comparison:
Variable 1: Republican control of state government
Variable 2: educational attainment deviation from national average

Third comparison:
Variable 1: Republican control of state government
Variable 2: educational attainment deviation from national average

[RandomGuy]

I don't need to explain it.

You absolutely do.

You took on that burden when you implied that "its teh blacks that cause states to be dystopian holes" to deflect from the fact that Republican states appear to do worse on measurements of human well-being.

Your assertion, your burden of proof.

[RandomGuy]

Triggered much? Easy to see as you are editing your posts but you avoid issue of WY, Nd, SD, again, idiot.

Pretty much.

[DMC]

You absolutely do.

You took on that burden when you implied that "its teh blacks that cause states to be dystopian holes" to deflect from the fact that Republican states appear to do worse on measurements of human well-being.

Your assertion, your burden of proof.

It's a fact that blacks have the highest IMR. This is easily proven even on the CDC website.
It's a fact that these states you point out have the highest black populations.
It's easy to conclude that the IMR for these states is weighted by the racial disparity plus the demographics.

So I debunked your road claim - you called it a throwaway line. I agreed.
I debunked your IMR claim that tied IMR to political control.

What's next?

If these states are dystopian holes (your assertion in the OP and thread le), then why do blacks who primarily vote democrat choose to live there over these other democrat run states?

I think you're calling these states dystopian holes because A) You're fart sniffin' Darrin and B) You consider areas with heavy black populations to be dystopian.

[DMC]

Hypothesis:
Republican polices, in their totality, cause states to be dystopian holes.

Dystopian holes: high infant mortality, low educational attainment, and measurably shorter lifespans. Call it below national average in two out of three measures. (maybe just do all three? easy to run both definitions)

I will at some point this weekend run correlative analysis between party in control of the government to these three factors. datasets are pretty easy to find.

Control of government = executive and at least one legislative branch of government

You can try to be all racist and say "its teh blacks", and I will then ask you why Republican policies appear to be so closely related to black poverty. Another question your dishonest ass will not answer.

For your own reading:
https://www.scribbr.com/statistics/c...n-coefficient/

A correlation coefficient is a number between -1 and 1 that tells you the strength and direction of a relationship between variables.

First comparison:
Variable 1: Republican control of state government
Variable 2: Infant mortality rate

Second comparison:
Variable 1: Republican control of state government
Variable 2: educational attainment deviation from national average

Third comparison:
Variable 1: Republican control of state government
Variable 2: educational attainment deviation from national average

You're pulling these "variables" out of your ass.

I can show quite easily that blacks have low income in most states.
I can also show that the IMR for blacks is about the same in most states.
I can conclude then that low income and high IMR clusters will weigh down the data from the US average.

This has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with science. It's not even about race, per se. It's about clusters of traits that affect averages when you divide by regions.

I know you want to impress people with your cipherin' Jethro, but you cannot escape the numbers even by throwing in unrelated "variables" in a correlation vs causation obfuscation boondoggle. (WH should love that).

[DMC]

You can see that IMR for blacks is very high across all states. The lowest state IMR for blacks is in NY, but it's higher than the highest IMR for whites.

So you're really only worried about white babies since black IMR is high everywhere, even in the northern blue states.

So explain how the republican policies cause that through your variables and cipherin'.

Blacks deal with dystopian holes anywhere they live, if they aren't wealthy.


Vermont has a 6.5 IMR for whites, just below Mississippi, only they don't have the black population to weigh down the stats like Mississippi does.

Then again, you're only focused on whites. So explain Vermont.

[DMC]

Now let's look at your claim about education...

Why is Montana at the top? Why is Alaska ahead of so many blue states? Why is California at the bottom? What happened here?

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