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Derrick White was the only rotation player traded today, but it will be very interesting to see how some of the new players are incorporated into the team.
- If I had to bet, I would bet today's trade is in part predicated on the fact that the Spurs believe Devin is the future at the 2 for the Spurs. At least for the rest of this year and likely next year pending on how Primo develops. Devin has looked good at times and has been generally a better three point shooter than White. He's not the on ball defender that White is, but I believe out of the current Spurs he's the best option and probably has has the most upside over the next 1-2 seasons. His per 36 numbers are almost as good as White's in every category except assists, but Devin boards the ball better and also gets more steals.
- There's a chance they start Lonnie. I'm not sure how many more opportunities Lonnie will be given, but I suppose its possible they give him the opportunity to try to play with the starters and see what he can provide over the rest of the season. I don't think this is likely, and in fact I'm wondering if Lonnie sees much of a change in minutes at all because of the other guards coming from Boston.
- I have watched almost no Langford playing time, so I can't value this guy at all personally. But if the Spurs do think he has potential, it will be interesting to see if he or Tre get the bulk of the minutes backing up Murray. With White gone, we're actually going to use a backup point guard as opposed to staggering Murray and White so it'll be telling if the Spurs play Langford ahead of Tre.
- I really hope Josh Richardson is not the starting 2 guard for us the rest of the way. I don't think he's terrible, but its possible thats the role the front office forsees going forward for him.
Murray
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johnson
mcdermoot
poodle
are we keeping dragic?
I don't think there's much of a chance they keep Dragic and I doubt he'll play. I don't see how they would gain anything by that.
Solid chance our 2022-23 opening game starting lineup is Murray, Primo, Vassell, Johnson, and Collins. And I'm fairly confident Murray and Poeltl will each miss the final 15 games with lingering soreness somewhere on their body. I expect that we give Primo and Vassell heavy minutes over the balance of the year. Move Poeltl this summer. And potentially sign and trade Walker.
Don't foresee a clear cut 9 or 10 man. Only the top 7 are probably locks (probably a longshot, but with the writing on the wall, could Walker IV be a stealth buyout candidate if he's that unhappy and they want to prioritize Primo and Langford?) . . .
Starters: Johnson, McDermott, Poeltl, Richardson/Vassell, Murray
Bench: Vassell/Richardson, Collins, Walker IV, Primo, Jones, Bates-Diop, Langford
Deep bench/G-League: Landale, Satoransky, Wieskamp, Cacok
-I'm hoping Vassell gets the starting nod. It's time to see what that combo looks like. Does the Murray/Vassell combo have enough creation skills to be a starting backcourt in today's NBA? There's only one way to find out, tbh.
-Regarding Richardson, I just hope the Spurs do enough to retain his value. They succeeded well enough with Thad -- time to do that again with Richardson. Either mothball him or put him in a position to succeed. Thad's value was retained just well enough to get something halfway tangible for him.
-Langford vs. Walker? I don't care too much either way. I'd lean Walker because Langford's prove-it year can be next season.
I don't think we'll play Richardson. He is only here because his salary was needed to match White's. I expect he'll be moved this summer after receiving the Thad Young treatment over back half of this season. I hope we flip him for another SRP.
Not with a front line as devoid of play making as this. Whoever the eventual replacement for McDermott is (Primo, Ivey, etc.) that slides Vassell to the nominal three, will have to make this work.
Yeah, as they fall further behind the play-in, they probably mothball him at that point. I don't see it happening at this point with a 28 year old, but stranger things have happened.
Murray/ Tre
Vassell/ Lonnie
Primo/ Richardson
Keldon/ McDermott/ KBD
Poeltl/ Collins/ Landale
Haven't seen enough of Josh Richardson to know what he offers the spurs. Not a good sign he keeps getting traded.
One thing lonnie has going for him this season is his much improved defense .
The spurs just traded their best on the ball defender . Someone has to fill that gap / role.
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Murray/Richardson
Vassell/Walker
McDermott/Primo
Johnson/KBD
Poeltl/Collins
But Pop will probably go mad scientist and rest players often, so I expect a bunch of different line ups
Devin and Joshua are ahead of Lonnie in the rotation. no doubt. Just defensively they dont cut it yet. For me Lonnie was closest to Dwhites ability.
I think Langford will fit in the rotation somewhere..
1) Pop notoriously doesn’t play players who have only recently joined the Spurs, especially players who join in the middle of the season. It’s probably due to not knowing the terminology, playbook, and familiarity playing with the other players.
2) Pop doesn’t play players just to raise their trade value. Most recent example is Thad Young.
Dude, this was a draft deadline like no other. I really don’t see any other recent precedent for Pops actions following a day that saw 4 players (5 if you add Forbes) leave and 4 come in.
Need to keep Lonnie and Richardson’s trade value up.
Time to see if vassell was worth that lottery pick
One thing I've noted with Primo that's frustrating is he seems like he has a hard time staying in front of guards. He's been much better suited defensively when he gets switched onto the 3 or 4. Vassell seems like the more natural defensive 3 given his length, but his ability to stay in front of quicker guards makes him a more valuable defensive 2. Primo may end up being the bench ball handler but he's looking better suited to be a defensive 3.
No, but im in no hurry to help the mavs sign him as a buy out lol .
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Richardson played for Boston. The coach there is Ime Udoka. He should know the playbook pretty well, given that he also played for Brett Brown.
Agree, he had a rep as a good defender coming into the draft. Apparently he has long arms ala Devin and DJ.
SL Poetl, Collins, Johnson, Vassel, Murray.
Bench - everybody else
I think Pop would give Lonnie plenty of chances to earn his next contract. There’s no excuse for Lonnie now . I think Lonnie will get the starting nod (I’m not necessarily agree to it). And Pop will give enough looks on Lanford and Jefferson.
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