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    Pounding the Rock seems to think Dragic may sign with a contender.
    From what I've been reading, it looks like he might be heading to Dallas.

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    As I have said before , I have always wanted Dragic here but that ship has sailed and I don't mind him being bought out. There is really nothing he can give this team at this stage of his career and even if he still has a little left in his tank it's not like that will give this team anymore wins.

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    This whole timeline thing is overblown

    the Wolves aren’t rushing to get rid of KAT because he’s 26 and because that team isn’t yet compe ive

    The Wizards can continue to surround 28 year old Beal with players and look to compete. They tried to do that this past offseason.

    older players have a place on any team. Especially if that role isn’t a primary one.

    A team doesn’t have to be filled with prepubescent teenagers to fit any timeline.
    From a player age and development perspective he did have some overlap with our timeline. The conflict was that there were other players that we needed more existing in the same timeline. So by timeline theory, someone had to be moved, and White made the most sense because his development appeared to have peaked and this was a great trade in terms of value.

    If White had a similar skill level and played PF he likely would not have been moved.

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    Sucks we got rid of White. We don't have a product worth a damn on the floor atm so it's a good opportunity for him on a team actually competing for a le. Glad he got traded to a team whose aspirations are a le because he def deserves that but we'll def be missing his skillset soon enough.

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    Very good, but it’ll be a challenge to find everybody minutes.

    Vassell is the starting SG now, and Richardson, Langford, and Satoransky are all listed as SGs.

    That’s why I was dismissive of Satoransky above. Where are the minutes coming from? Also, he’s 30. However, Satoransky has played some PG, so some backup minutes there could be possible.

    It’ll be fascinating to watch how the Spurs sort all this out, for the rest of this season.
    It’s not rocket science. Dragic will never join the team and this was known ahead of time. Sato wil become a free agent this offseason as he isn’t a buyout target since no one wants him and he has no reason to bet on himself currently other than getting paid and hitting free agency.

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    I will throw this out here in this thread since this is the one where we got the 2028 pick swap. I have seen a few people mention us drafting Manus kids. Well they will be 18 in 2028 and would be draft eligible. This of course would only get us one but does give us 2 shots at getting one.

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    It’s a move that had to be done but definitely gonna miss that big forehead. Dude was a class act and a good player on the Spurs. DJ is just better and the white/Murray combo wasn’t going to get the spurs anywhere.
    By itself no, you had a solid starter in White and a complementary star level player in Murray though which is what a team needs, they just needed a primary starter level player somewhere in the front court, it just wasn looking like they were finding the guy on that front without making moves. Since we have a couple if other decent prospects at the guard spots moving the quality starter level player for pick's and prospects isn't a bad move especially if he doesn't really fit super well timeline wise.

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    I remember when the 76ers tried to salvage the Jimmy Butler situation by trading him for Richardson. Maybe he could be kind of good?

    Still worrying that after the Spurs stopped with the small background nonsense, they decided to pick up playing undersized at the 4 instead. Not sure if an upgrade over those TP9/Mills/Forbes back courts, tbh.

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    Spurs loss to the GSW scrubs is all one needed to see to explain why White needed to be traded for draft picks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q5UG0Ga_MY

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    Richardson is a good bench piece, used to be a first option on a fairly decent Heat team, i have always liked primary scorers who turn into role players super valuable off the bench ala Rudy/Gallo. He is young enough to be part of the bench unit even after the a 2 year rebuild. But more likely a flip next year for a bad contract and draft compensation.

    Langford is more of a salary dump in BOS point of view. More likely cut next training camp, good defender but not a spurs type player, motor and character concerns since the draft.

    26 is when Tatum might leave BOS - ideally it is 2026 pick swap but BOS protected themselves from disaster and made it 2028. 2028 they are maybe 2 years into a rebuild if Tatum left. It is a lottery ticket.

    BOS still has a high chance of being in the lottery, they are on a winning streak but some of it is because of a cakewalk schedule.
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    Richardson is a good bench piece, used to be a first option on a fairly decent Heat team, i have always liked primary scorers who turn into role players super valuable off the bench ala Rudy/Gallo. He is young enough to be part of the bench unit even after the a 2 year rebuild. But more likely a flip next year for a bad contract and draft compensation.

    Langford is more of a salary dump in BOS point of view. More likely cut next training camp, good defender but not a spurs type player, motor and character concerns since the draft.

    26 is when Tatum might leave BOS - ideally it is 2026 pick swap but BOS protected themselves from disaster and made it 2028. 2028 they are maybe 2 years into a rebuild if Tatum left. It is a lottery ticket.

    BOS still has a high chance of being in the lottery, they are on a winning streak but some of it is because of a cakewalk schedule.
    Romeo plays D and has playmaking skills, we will teach him how to shoot! He was just traded to a team full of guards ( same height and size ) that can barely dribble or playmake outside of primo / Murray . This kid has a legitimate chance to be just as valuable as the draft pick.

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    Richardson is a good bench piece, used to be a first option on a fairly decent Heat team, i have always liked primary scorers who turn into role players super valuable off the bench ala Rudy/Gallo. He is young enough to be part of the bench unit even after the a 2 year rebuild. But more likely a flip next year for a bad contract and draft compensation.

    Langford is more of a salary dump in BOS point of view. More likely cut next training camp, good defender but not a spurs type player, motor and character concerns since the draft.

    26 is when Tatum might leave BOS - ideally it is 2026 pick swap but BOS protected themselves from disaster and made it 2028. 2028 they are maybe 2 years into a rebuild if Tatum left. It is a lottery ticket.

    BOS still has a high chance of being in the lottery, they are on a winning streak but some of it is because of a cakewalk schedule.
    Langford’s year 4 option has already been picked up before this year, so unless he’s somehow toxic or disruptive in a KPJ way, he absolutely won’t be cut during training camp. Either of them could be moved for the right assets.

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    Langford’s year 4 option has already been picked up before this year, so unless he’s somehow toxic or disruptive in a KPJ way, he absolutely won’t be cut during training camp. Either of them could be moved for the right assets.
    I do think moving Langford in something they can argue is value, is partially face saving for BOS after much was made of Danny hoarding picks (It’s probably why they haven’t moved on from Smart tbh). They really didn’t get much for all those middling picks they had, and Romeo was one on the “better” ones.

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    I do think moving Langford in something they can argue is value, is partially face saving for BOS after much was made of Danny hoarding picks (It’s probably why they haven’t moved on from Smart tbh). They really didn’t get much for all those middling picks they had, and Romeo was one on the “better” ones.
    I won’t argue with this. The post I responded to said that he would probably get cut in training camp next fall, and I WILL argue that. They’re not going to eat $5M for a 22YO that could become a bench piece or a future asset in a trade.

    I had another post where I posited that playoff teams shouldn’t keep middling lottery picks, they should trade them. Boston drafted Romeo onto a team that was making deep playoff runs, and already had Tatum, Brown, and Smart. How was he ever going to develop? Phoenix drafted Jalen Smith, and he was 4th on their center depth chart until Saric was injured in the playoffs. Why keep that pick? Kick it down the road for an asset and future pick.

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    Anyone thing Ainge would have made that trade if he was still the guy? I don't.

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    I won’t argue with this. The post I responded to said that he would probably get cut in training camp next fall, and I WILL argue that. They’re not going to eat $5M for a 22YO that could become a bench piece or a future asset in a trade.

    I had another post where I posited that playoff teams shouldn’t keep middling lottery picks, they should trade them. Boston drafted Romeo onto a team that was making deep playoff runs, and already had Tatum, Brown, and Smart. How was he ever going to develop? Phoenix drafted Jalen Smith, and he was 4th on their center depth chart until Saric was injured in the playoffs. Why keep that pick? Kick it down the road for an asset and future pick.
    They will eat the $5M if it’s blocking them from a roster spot for one of their three 2022 FRP’s (or SRP, if it’s not a two-way) or if they need that spot for a free agent.

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    They will eat the $5M if it’s blocking them from a roster spot for one of their three 2022 FRP’s (or SRP, if it’s not a two-way) or if they need that spot for a free agent.
    We are likely going into next training with far too many bodies once again. This is why useless signings like KBD and Landale frustrate me. Putting 5 end of the bench guys in comp never made sense to me. Those 3FRPs are nice but they better move guys ahead of training camp if they plan to keep all 3.

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    They will eat the $5M if it’s blocking them from a roster spot for one of their three 2022 FRP’s (or SRP, if it’s not a two-way) or if they need that spot for a free agent.
    I think we all would agree it’s situational but in this instance I’d agree with Exstatic. I would almost bet the farm Romeo was specifically requested for a reason greater than a projected salary dump.

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    I won’t argue with this. The post I responded to said that he would probably get cut in training camp next fall, and I WILL argue that. They’re not going to eat $5M for a 22YO that could become a bench piece or a future asset in a trade.

    I had another post where I posited that playoff teams shouldn’t keep middling lottery picks, they should trade them. Boston drafted Romeo onto a team that was making deep playoff runs, and already had Tatum, Brown, and Smart. How was he ever going to develop? Phoenix drafted Jalen Smith, and he was 4th on their center depth chart until Saric was injured in the playoffs. Why keep that pick? Kick it down the road for an asset and future pick.
    so what you are saying is this. I am a championship contender, but missing one or two pieces.....trade those draft picks now, go get that piece and also future compensation. I agree. Unless, you are getting an absolutely out of this world prospect like Duncan, Kobe, Lebron, or Dirk.....no need in cluttering your bench with youth that will never see the light of day.

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    I would be overly joyed if we got Tomas, Josh, and Romeo simply to accrue future assets.

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    We are likely going into next training with far too many bodies once again. This is why useless signings like KBD and Landale frustrate me. Putting 5 end of the bench guys in comp never made sense to me. Those 3FRPs are nice but they better move guys ahead of training camp if they plan to keep all 3.
    What’s the issue with having too many bodies in training camp? That makes no sense. It’s in training camp where you see the actual talent level or progress a player has made. Pitting KBD against Luka and Luka probably showing he wasn’t much better was what probably kicked Luka off the team. You need various degrees of talent to see where you are. This is a non-issue.

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    What’s the issue with having too many bodies in training camp? That makes no sense. It’s in training camp where you see the actual talent level or progress a player has made. Pitting KBD against Luka and Luka probably showing he wasn’t much better was what probably kicked Luka off the team. You need various degrees of talent to see where you are. This is a non-issue.
    The issue is needless guarantees and useless contracts. If we don’t consolidate this summer we are going to be forced to make premature and hard decisions around Tre, Langford other guys who are developing and probably have something to offer.

    3FRPs and 35mm in cap space and a an already full roster doesn't make much sense.

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    I actually like that the Spurs keep some compe ion on the team. Everybody is young and can get playing time, they just gotta be better than the other guys. That puts some pressure on the young guys to develop further, cause their roster spot ain't safe. Players like KBD, Wieskamp and Walker are under pressure if they want to stay on the team next season.

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    Why would we have too many body Tomas contract is up, we are buying out Dragic else his contract is up, Josh Rich has a unguaranteed contract next year. LW4 is a RFA next year. KBD and Landale is not guaranteed next year. We have a lot of flexibility.

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    The issue is needless guarantees and useless contracts. If we don’t consolidate this summer we are going to be forced to make premature and hard decisions around Tre, Langford other guys who are developing and probably have something to offer.

    3FRPs and 35mm in cap space and a an already full roster doesn't make much sense.

    that ain't an issue. Satoransky and Dragic will be gone, that opens up 2 roster spots. KBD could be gone, the same with Walker. Spurs could package 1 or 2 picks to move up and only draft 1 or 2 players which is likely. 2nd round pick gets a 2-way contract. Richardson could be waived or traded on draft night. And the free agent class is garbage, I assume the Spurs will only sign 1 or 2 new players.

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