Josh Richardson, Romeo Langford, 2022 First Round Pick and 2028 First Round Pick Swap for Derrick White

[KingKev]

KJ and Vassell are going to be paid in different years, which is much more manageable than doing it the same year. Imagine going into contract negotiations and potentially losing all three to other teams because they don’t like your offer. Instead of losing just one in one year and being able to retool with free agency if that occurs. I’m only talking contract-wise too, who knows what the impact is to the development team when they have to stretch their resources to 3-4 rooks instead of focusing on a couple?

Cap space is unlikely to be a problem for us for years to come. Regardless these are good problems to have.

[JeffDuncan]

Does anyone know when KBD and Landale’s contracts become guaranteed? …

KBD’s contract for next season becomes fully guaranteed on opening night. In other words, his money is guaranteed if he makes the team. Very sensible.

On Landale, all I can find is that his contract for next season is not guaranteed at this time.

Since the Spurs were active, and creative, in midseason trades, it implies deals could happen on draft night. Something like drafting a player for another team, in connection with a trade, might not be ruled out. If they did more wheeling and dealing it wouldn’t surprise me, is what I mean.

[Ocotillo]

It’s not cost controlled when you have to pay them all at the same time when their contracts are up. That’s a disaster waiting to happen. Do you understand how rare that happens in the NBA? I’m open to us having three more rooks on the team but it’s not as simple as you make it out to be. I’d rather them trade up if they see a greater talent that they like.

I see your point. This does presume they all three turn into keepers.

[KingKev]

KBD’s contract for next season becomes fully guaranteed on opening night. In other words, his money is guaranteed if he makes the team. Very sensible.

On Landale, all I can find is that his contract for next season is not guaranteed at this time.

Since the Spurs were active, and creative, in midseason trades, it implies deals could happen on draft night. Something like drafting a player for another team, in connection with a trade, might not be ruled out. If they did more wheeling and dealing it wouldn’t surprise me, is what I mean.

Thank you sir.

[BatManu20]

Celtics destroying the Sixers on the road right now but Derrick is struggling. He can’t hit an open 3 right now. His shooting slump continues.

[alfahdlan]

D. WHITE +41 BPM

[slick'81]

11/1/2/1 for white

[BatManu20]

Yea Boston whooped em by like 50 and Derrick did a lot of good things on both sides of the ball. He clearly makes them a better team. He just can’t hit any of his open 3’s right now. If those start falling at even an average rate, he’ll a fantastic pickup for them. He’s already a good one.

[exstatic]

It’s not cost controlled when you have to pay them all at the same time when their contracts are up. That’s a disaster waiting to happen. Do you understand how rare that happens in the NBA? I’m open to us having three more rooks on the team but it’s not as simple as you make it out to be. I’d rather them trade up if they see a greater talent that they like.

I remember one draft, maybe 1990, where Sacto drafted FOUR players with first round picks, but to see more than two is very unusual, and I agree, undesirable.

None of them panned out, btw.

[R. DeMurre]

In three games with Boston, White is +64.

[XDT76]

I remember one draft, maybe 1990, where Sacto drafted FOUR players with first round picks, but to see more than two is very unusual, and I agree, undesirable.

None of them panned out, btw.

I remember Spurs wanted to draft Jimmy Butler also, but when they got Kawhi, they decided to go with JC as they did not deem to have enough resources to develop KL and JB.

[Chinook]

I remember one draft, maybe 1990, where Sacto drafted FOUR players with first round picks, but to see more than two is very unusual, and I agree, undesirable.

None of them panned out, btw.

The Rockets just used four firsts last year (Green, Sengun, Garuba and Christopher). They and OKC both had three to start the draft.

Boston had three the year before but ended up dumping one to Memphis for two seconds. That became Bane, which is looking like a mistake.

They also had three in 2019 and end up dumping one of them on Philly ... which ended up being Thybulle, so they had a bad couple of years. Atlanta had three firsts that same year but traded two to NOP, meaning the Pelicans had three (Zion, Hayes, NAW).

In 2018, ATL had three firsts and used them with the caveat that they traded down with Dallas but still ended up using three firsts (Young, Reddish Spellman).

In 2017, POR had three firsts but moved the best two in order to trade up for Collins. That gave SAC three firsts, which they used (Fox, Jackson, Giles). In addition, the Lakers drafted went into the draft with three firsts and used three, though they moved down a bit at the end of the round (Ball, Kuzma, Hart)

In 2016, Denver had three firsts and used them. Philly also had and used three firsts that year. Phoenix had three firsts but traded their latter two to SAC part of the Chriss trade, giving SAC three firsts to use (Papagiannis, Richardson, Skal).


You basically have to go all the way back to 2015 to find a year where someone didn't end up getting three players out of the first round. This year, the Spurs, Thunder and Grizzlies are all going into the draft with three picks if the season ended today. Portland, Atlanta Indiana and Houston either can or might go into the draft with two firsts, meaning in the event of a trade down they might have three. I'd consider it pretty likely that at least one team is going to draft three first-rounders or trade for their rights on draft night. It'll probably be two or three.

[Mr. Body]

The NYK drafted Channing Frye and David Lee in 2005. I thought they drafted Nate Robinson that night but actually traded for him.

[daslicer]

2019, spurs took on three rookies. Only one still exists on the team. I get your point. But that was a bad draft by the spurs.

It was an ok draft. They could have gotten Thybulle instead of Luka but they did fine with Keldon as their other first round pick. The second-round pick of Quindary was a flop but second round picks tend to fail over 90 percent of time.

[RC_Drunkford]

Celtics destroying the Sixers on the road right now but Derrick is struggling. He can’t hit an open 3 right now. His shooting slump continues.

he‘s been in that slump his entire career

[Spursfanfromafar]

It doesn't show on the boxscore...oh wait. It does. White had a +41 in his +/- on the court as the Celtics routed the Sixers. My main man is a great fit with the green as he does everything (except 3 point shooting now) at an above average level. The Spurs didn't have enough All Star talent to make the best out of White but the Celtics do. They have two Uber talented wings (the most coveted assets in the NBA) who are very good at both ends but somehow they lacked complete chemistry and a bit of facilitation. White just comes in and makes it easy for them by smoothening up rough ends. I feel happy for White but it's bittersweet. If only we had a do it all wing to go with White and Murray. The Spurs would have been contenders. Anyways White has helped the Spurs get more draft picks and help secure our future better. So here's hope.

[alfahdlan]

Fearless forecast: Boston to vie for east championship save injury to key players

[CGD]

In three games with Boston, White is +64.

Yeah, but he was +48 in the 40 point thumping of PHI, so that is massively skewed

[CGD]

And it may have been bad because developmentally they had to stretch their resources to three instead of two. Like I said, I’m playing devil’s advocate here. I’m open to three, I just don’t think it’s as simple.

Agree with you, and that’s before the question of roster openings.

Ideal situation in my view is consolidating 8, 18, 20 into 8 and 11. Or, selling 20 to a team lacking a pick for a 2023 FRP, although, with many teams owning multiple picks the price of a first this year may be depressed.

Also, it wouldnt be terrible if the Raptors pick was pushed to 2023 by virtue of them missing the playoffs, but of course it means one less chance of it turning into a FRP.

[John B]

I’m not opposed to using all FRP if for top 5, Kessler and Jovic, while trading and stashing the SRP’s. It’s ideal to stagger, but IF they see the players they like, go for it. I have high hopes that PATFO will be creative on using Spurs picks and cap space this coming off season. Spurs could very well contend immediately IF successful. I certainly don’t want another tanking season.

[R. DeMurre]

Yeah, but he was +48 in the 40 point thumping of PHI, so that is massively skewed

His three games were +11, +12, and +41... he's also had the best +/- on the team in two games , and the second best in the third. Yes, a small sample size, but pretty impressive nonetheless.

[Drom John]

I remember one draft, maybe 1990, where Sacto drafted FOUR players with first round picks, but to see more than two is very unusual, and I agree, undesirable.

None of them panned out, btw.

But their second rounder did.

Pick#/Career WS order

7/18 Lionel Simmons
14/34 Travis Mays
18/20 Duane Causwell
23/22 Anthony Bonner
40/13 Bimbo Coles

24/40 Dwayne Schintzius
43/21 Tony Massenburg
54/44 Sean Higgins

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

His three games were +11, +12, and +41... he's also had the best +/- on the team in two games , and the second best in the third. Yes, a small sample size, but pretty impressive nonetheless.

He's helping them I think. Long-term, though, this was a good move for the Spurs.

[Sugus]

It doesn't show on the boxscore...oh wait. It does. White had a +41 in his +/- on the court as the Celtics routed the Sixers. My main man is a great fit with the green as he does everything (except 3 point shooting now) at an above average level. The Spurs didn't have enough All Star talent to make the best out of White but the Celtics do. They have two Uber talented wings (the most coveted assets in the NBA) who are very good at both ends but somehow they lacked complete chemistry and a bit of facilitation. White just comes in and makes it easy for them by smoothening up rough ends. I feel happy for White but it's bittersweet. If only we had a do it all wing to go with White and Murray. The Spurs would have been contenders. Anyways White has helped the Spurs get more draft picks and help secure our future better. So here's hope.

Same exact thing is gonna happen with Jakob once he's inevitably off this team. Can't wait for dolts and national media alike to make a sudden 180º and start wondering why would the Spurs let such a great player go and all that , as if we couldn't tell already. Not every player has to be a superstar (rather the opposite if you want the team to work out well), White is a great example of that and I'm missing him already.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Smart out Derrick making his first career start with the Celtics.