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I think the Spurs are eying Keegan Murray or AJ Griffin, I wouldn't mind either of them tbh. I think the Spurs pick 7-10 if no trades are involved to move up.
Incredibly difficult when all one has are high school tapes where his a third of his compe ion probably didnt go on to play college ball and another third are probably a foot shorter than him. Mid lottery is where I’d be comfortable drafting him, but if the Spurs draft him with our highest pick, I’m inclined to trust their judgment.
I think the Spurs are eying Keegan Murray or AJ Griffin, I wouldn't mind either of them tbh. I think the Spurs pick 7-10 if no trades are involved to move up.
Keegan Murray finishes with 23 pts & 8 rbs on 9/23 shooting in a close home loss to Michigan. He left the game with cramps for about 5 minutes in the 2nd Half. Showed some of his versatility but not his greatest showing, as he didn’t shoot well and missed the game-tying 3-pt attempt.
This is why I think it’s not a smart idea to go for a big whose calling card is defense and is limited offensively. Duren would be a mistake if he’s drafted with our highest pick.
Bennedict Mathurin with 20 pts, 2 rbs, & 2 stls tonight on 6/14 shooting in a win. Showed off his stroke and his athleticism a bit.
He’s rising on my list, will be interested to see how he does in the tourney.
I'm guessing LeBron James had a lot to do with it.
I agree about Duren, however, Gobert simply refuses to guard on the perimeter. He plays like centers did in the 90s, camping under the rim. He's good at what he does, probably the best in the league, but his play can be exploited, especially in the playoffs where teams will go small and force them to switch.
I'm still in the process of forming an opinion on Jalen Duren.
I understand the allure of the physical characteristics of such a player as I still think 'C' is the most underrated, foundational piece on a winning team.
The question I would ask is how does he compare to Poeltl right now and what is his projected development across 3-4 years on a team such as the Spurs, (which would make him 22-23 yo)?
I also think there is something to be said about a team being required to match up to you, not the other way around.
Now I'm not saying Duren is that now (or that he may ever be) but I'm sure it is something that GMs will think about...
There was an article on Basketballnews.com about Duren and Memphis specifically that I found interesting:
https://www.basketballnews.com/stori...ft-jalen-duren
It's also important to remember he's dominated his peers previously at Pangos and reclassified for the 2022 year from 2023......After peaking at No. 9 in the rankings, Memphis hit quite a bit of turmoil, as a fissure began to form in the locker room following a string of losses. In an interview with The Athletic, Penny said, "We've got so much negativity in our locker room with veterans being jealous. Everybody's trying to get to the NBA off the ranking we had, but nobody is willing to sacrifice minutes, touches, anything. It's been miserable. You can imagine what a 17-year-old is thinking as he's trying to figure it out." Duren has remained positive for the team despite the turmoil, averaging 9.2 points, 5.7 rebounds and 1.8 blocks per game. I recently saw Duren take on the Central Florida Knights in a game that wasn't highly contested, as Memphis struggled.
Pregame, Duren warmed up and stretched largely individually. He came sporting a very quiet, "I'm about my business" demeanor in which he was locked-in and wasn't particularly jovial. Duren was most impactful defensively during the game, where he registered 3 blocks and was an intimidator in the paint. Offensively he struggled to get into his groove in a game where the Tigers were severely short-handed (only 7 players played, as Jayden Hardaway got injured early)...
From NBADraft.nets Pangos 2021 breakdown - (Previous Pangos Standouts include Scottie Barnes, Evan Mobley, Cade Cunningham and Evan Mobley, to name but a few):
1 Jalen Duren 6-10 260 PF/C Montverde Academy (2022)
Duren came out with a strong performance on Day One showing solid touch on his jumpshot. He registered a very impressive 18 point 18 rebound game against Team Syracuse (Kel’el Ware and Taylor Bol Bowen). His shot is a little flat, and he cooled off some shooting but found ways to impact the game with his tremendous passing, rebounding and defensive ability. He’s a specimen type of athlete and has really adding some impressive wrinkles to his game. How much has his game evolved? Duren was leading the camp in assists after three games. He’s also got incredible hands, which is a huge asset as so many bigs are a step slow to react to plays at the next level and fumble passes or just don’t have the ability to effortlessly make plays with their hand-eye coordination.
With the Spurs having three potential firsts, if they feel there is somewhat of a neutrality between the wings where they are selecting them, it may make sense to take Duren if he does fall into the teens.
Kinda hard to think that he would fall into the teens. It's debatable that he's even a gamble at 8-9-10.
TaT currently has him at 11 in both their Mock and their Big Board.
Where is this draft in terms of international talent? Is there a world where Spurs stash one of their later picks?
I feel there is a world where they pick 3 players bc the value of picks will be depressed this year. To many teams have multiple picks this go around.
Johnny Davis will be a superstar. We will regret not selecting him, unless we do.
A FRP has to agree IN WRITING to not come over in order to be stashed.
Yeah I think that’s a fair assessment too. My money is on OKC (if their pick slides out of the top 4) or Portland (multiple, likely early firsts) to pick him up.
I’d be surprised if Portland took him. They had discussions with Nurk around the deadline, and both parties want to move forward. If they picked Duran, it might wind up being another Jalen Smoth debacle, since there just aren’t very many big man minutes to be had. Before you chime in, it wouldn’t shock me to see Jak dealt during the draft. ing Charlotte is in frefall, and probably has a bad case of non buyers remorse.
Ive been watching that as well. I wonder what we can get from them for Jak. I figure it would probbaly be the same package but they would give up their first. wonder if we could get 2 first if even that are in the future.
Jordan was the GOAT, but as a GM, he’s strictly a bench scrub.
CHA is definitely one of my “trade up” draft target teams. I’m just not sure if Jak + BOS’s pick is worth it for 14, but maybe if they slide to 11 range.
I also like Portland who could have 2 picks in 7-10 range. Could see using both BOS/TOR picks to get up to 10. Or Keldon and one of those to get up to 8.
WAS also looks tasty.
I think the sticking point for Charlotte and the Spurs deal was that first round pick which is now looking likely lottery. I do think Poeltl is available for the right price as talks sounded like they were pretty far along with Charlotte.
Despite Portlands recent 4 game spurt, I absolutely think they’ll be rebuilding, unloading Dame and Nurk in the off-season just feels inevitable considering their age and recent moves. I mean if a Dame, CJ backcourt wasn’t cutting it defensively; Simmons surely would bring similar shortcomings.
Just a note that Charlotte’s GM is Mitch Kupchak.
I think you’re wrong on that. I think they’re trying to maximize their picks, but they just throw them in with Dame and Nurk, which is why I was thinking the won’t pick Duren.
he's definitely my top pick if we fall out of the top 4. The only thing is he's an offball player, but not really an iso scorer. Would fit our playing style, but ideally we need somebody who can get buckets in isolation
I am down on guys listed as exclusive 4 in college. Almost all of them tend to play the backup small ball 5 in the NBA. Just a hard position to fill skill wise. Tend to think getting a 225+ lbs SF is a better investment.
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