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Yeah people forget we bent the rule when we got Detroit Bad boy Rodman on our team so it’s not like we have gotten non Spurs like culture before
I don’t disagree but I’d retort that this last trade deadline, to me anyways, communicated things are probably going to operate a tad different moving forward. I’m hoping for a rebrand or a tweak of Spurs culture.
We need talent. You can’t use the same filters used in the era of DRob and Duncan when you don’t have guys like that to lead. Pendulum had swung way to far towards Spurs culture, loyalty contracts, needless buyouts and a Mr Nice guy at ude. That is all fine and dandy when you are winning; but we aren’t. I suspect the Spurs take more chances going forward.
Yeah people forget we bent the rule when we got Detroit Bad boy Rodman on our team so it’s not like we have gotten non Spurs like culture before
That was before the Pop era. We had plenty of those guys, Mad Max, Strickland, Walter Berry. Spurs culture really started with Pop taking the head coaching job.
I meant Lonnie and Luka where both in the latter camp (high risk/reward). One flopped and the other may be on another nba team next year, but you can understand why they were picked where they were.
You consistently said it a year ago and would get pissy whenever someone brought up the notion of the Spurs ever not bringing Patty back because he was such a Spurs’ type player. The same stubbornness is on display here. The fact that you said what you said in your second sentence (something as outrageous as Patty playing til 95 years old) proves you’re just playing dumb now and that you actually remember. You either don’t know the Spurs as well as you think you do or can’t understand that the Spurs are more willing to take chances in pursuit of more talent. I’m not even saying they’ll go after malcontents. You just have it in your mind that anyone who isn’t a perfect dude or doesn’t play 100% unselfish is a malcontent.
Last edited by Dejounte; 02-21-2022 at 08:43 PM.
I have no idea what the you're talking about.
The point made is not about character in the locker room or in life, the point is in playing style.
A great read peoples...
Jabari vs. Paolo: Examining Their Biggest Difference
https://www.thestepien.com/2022/02/15/jabari-vs-paolo-examining-their-biggest-difference/
...Returning to the main subject, the biggest differentiator between these two prospects is their ability to create from a standstill triple threat. Jabari still gets his buckets and we’ll talk about that later. But, Paolo is in another stratosphere when it comes to shaking defenders and creating legit advantages in isolation.Paolo practically mastering the stutter rip at age 19 while being 6’10” and 250 pounds seems noteworthy. His change of pace and polished footwork have been his best friend as a creator this year. Banchero constantly keeps defenders guessing, using those triple threat packages to gain a step on point-of-attack defenders, before using his frame and craft to get wherever he wants on the floor.
Contrast that to Jabari, who also frequently uses jab steps and creates out of triple threat. When Smith is initiating from a standstill, it feels like his sequences of jabs and rips are simply prerequisites to occupy his defender before rising into an inevitable contested pull-up jumper. They still go in. They go in a lot. Weighing Jabari’s process of getting there versus his actual results is one of the tallest tasks in this entire class, and I want to dig a little deeper with my concerns...
I wouldn’t say anyone in this draft is a sure thing including the top four - They are a lot of ty teams that haven’t a clue to develop young players
Keegan Murray looking solid tonight.
Murray's going to face issues with his age. I think it'll drop him later in the lottery. I've likened him a bit to Paul Pierce, who also dropped. Back then, players weren't killed for being older rookies.
Dang, didn’t realize he’ll be nearly 22 by the draft. Wasnt White 22 when we drafted him?
I believe he was turning 24.
Murray's age is strange to me, because he's only in his second year playing college basketball.
It really is. Im a November bday and remember graduating college when I was 22. On top of it all I usually thought August babies were supposed to be young for their school grade/year, no?
If the Spurs pick Murray around 8 I can’t be mad about it but totally understand the age thing. Some people compare him to Toppin which is just a disservice to Murray. Assuming the top 4 (Including Ivey) are off the board around pick 7-8 I like Murray, Griffin, or Mathurin. I think Johnny Davis is great I just value 3pt shooting right now which is probably the only knock on Davis.
From his wiki:
High school career
Murray played basketball for Prairie High School in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.[1] As a senior he averaged 20.3 points and 7.2 rebounds per game and was named Metro Player of the Year.[2] Murray played a postgraduate season at DME Academy in Daytona Beach, Florida to gain more exposure.[3] He averaged 22.1 points and 7.5 rebounds per game, earning most outstanding player honors at the National Prep School Invitational.[4][5] A three-star recruit, he committed to playing college basketball for Iowa
The question about Murray is whether he is already near his ceiling as a player
The history of any lottery picks at 22 isn’t good.
Interesting what a difference in ages from three 6'8" prospects only a year apart in school:
Keegan Murray, sop re, born August 19, 2000
Tari Eason, sop re, born May 10, 2001
Kendall Brown, freshman, born May 11, 2003
Primo was born December 24, 2002
Vassell was born August 23, 2000
Yeah, like David Robinson and Tim Duncan.
Something we continue to excel at is youth development so to pay up for someone else's development when me and my team are up there in terms of best in breed is questionable.
All things equal… 3-4 years of a solid college ball program versus 2-3yrs as a Spur what are you riding with? Unless that fella has a promise to his momma i’m all in on our ability to harness and develop that raw talent.
Agreed. But Primo and Vassell are 6’5 and haven’t shown anything outstanding.
Last edited by KingKev; 02-23-2022 at 07:24 AM.
You of all people should know the cir stances of those 2 and Tim was a young 21.
The thing is you didn't have a lot of old players in the lottery, i remember Cam Johnson, Hachimura and Toppin in recent drafts but that's it. It's difficult to say if a 22 yr old will pan out in the NBA but yes the ceilling is for sure lower than a young player.
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