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    The battle for Kyiv is today

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    Leftist ideology crumbling in the face of reality.
    u really think citizens with guns will make a difference?

    All they are is darwin award contestants.

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    Probably the best site to get solid information on how the war is going:

    Debka

    Russian forces closed in on the Ukraine capital from four directions amid heavy air and missile bombardment. Residents dived for shelter, maintaining that the bombardment was the heaviest they had seen since Nazi Germany’s assault on their town in 1941. Western military sources expect Kyiv to fall to the Russian army before the end of Friday, setting the scene for regime changeover.

    Those sources estimate that Russian forces sustained around 450 deaths on Thursday, the first day of the invasion.
    Seems about right. Not sure debka is THE best source, but it appears to be better than the usual drek you post.

    City fighting has a way of taking vastly longer than people think it will, but the Russian army seems to be well positioned to take the city.

    It will be interesting to see how long it takes. Take too long and the Ukranians can reinforce easily, and harry Russian supply lines.

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    "liberate Ukraine from foreign occupation"

    This guy has been hunkered down in Donbas for years, and has traveled exactly squat in any other part of the country.

    meh.

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    Their resolve got them.killed

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    Word.

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    You aren't buying russian resources and they won't last long. Just need to convince EU to off Russia. These corrupted skunks doesn't want to have any economical consequences for their countries. It's same as in 38 when Hitler was invanding Czechoslovakia and they swallowed the pill. And what has come then
    The EU was working on getting off Russian gas&oil. But then useful idiot Trump tore apart the Iran deal.

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    u really think citizens with guns will make a difference?

    All they are is darwin award contestants.
    It made a difference for Taliban in Afghanistan.

    The longer they hold out and resist the better their chances of winning are.

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    If Biden ed off Russians from swift, he wouldn't left any other sanction to implement in future. What would you want old man to do - send american troops to die in Kiev? He gives Ukraine money and arming.
    Biden has done right thing. It was like playing poker. He made Putin to show all his cards. And now every sceptic knows that Putin is a madman with nuclear bomb. The Russian threat will bring the western world together, also expect countries like Finland become a NATO member, so more american forces would be close to St Petersburg. And for Russia it's the beginning of the end as they won't survive alone same as USSR
    +1

    This will not end well for Putin's Russia.

    Even when they finally defeat the regular Ukrainian army, we will see what analysts call the "second order consequences".

    Russian economic contraction, and prolonged slow/no growth.
    A continuation of population aging and shrinking, as the immigration that stopped their population from going down reverses.
    A continued and sustained insurgency in Ukraine, draining the Russian army of blood and treasure.

    Putin says "we will not be occupying Ukraine" just like he said "we will not be invading Ukraine", so I think we can expect a significant portion of the Russian army tied down trying to keep a hostile population in check. Welcome to Chechnya/Afghanistan 2.0

    What follows on from that, will be the trillion dollar question.

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    It made a difference for Taliban in Afghanistan.

    The longer they hold out and resist the better their chances of winning are.
    Huh? The Taliban were a military group. Had decades of guerrilla training including CIA training.

    U cant seriously compare an average french fry eating western citizen to a Taliban

    Plus I didnt see Taliban holding out in their homes at their capital. They literally had to go live in caves for 20 years

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    Their resolve got them.killed

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    those men, yes. If that’s reflective of the rest of Ukraine, Russia is in for a tough time

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    Spin all you want. When hits the fan your ideology crumbles. This is a learning opportunity. Take it.
    So you’re wanting the US to be invaded so you can validate your incorrect interpretation of the 2A.

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    those men, yes. If that’s reflective of the rest of Ukraine, Russia is in for a tough time


    "Around the city there are cues of people ready to sign up and join Ukraines military efforts"

    at the 12:50 mark "Putler kaput" sign.

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    Huh? The Taliban were a military group. Had decades of guerrilla training including CIA training.

    U cant seriously compare an average french fry eating western citizen to a Taliban

    Plus I didnt see Taliban holding out in their homes at their capital. They literally had to go live in caves for 20 years
    ... and that population of about 40 million has forced out every army that has attempted to occupy it, including the Russians at the height of the USSR's power.

    Putler has stepped in it.

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    I have to admit at this point the entire ESG push was pretty short sighted. Hate seeing people with a huge raging hardon for fossil fuels be correct, but it's impossible not to acknowledge at this point.

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    those men, yes. If that’s reflective of the rest of Ukraine, Russia is in for a tough time
    All those idiots did was have a flashy last words. Not sure that will bother Russia much.

    Darwin is gona have a bonanza.

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    ... and that population of about 40 million has forced out every army that has attempted to occupy it, including the Russians at the height of the USSR's power.

    Putler has stepped in it.
    I dont fully disagree. I say Russia has miscalculated.

    What a dissapointment.


    Still im rooting for a quick war as that would mean less civilians killed. Worst thing would be a long drawn out conflict.

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    All those idiots did was have a flashy last words. Not sure that will bother Russia much.

    Darwin is gona have a bonanza.


    They have more hands, than rifles to put in them. Mr. Poroshenko, like so many others knows that Putler will round them up to torture or murder, if not shoot them immediately.

    The choice is die fighting or die in a totalitarian's torture chamber. Choice seems pretty clear.

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    They have more hands, than rifles to put in them. Mr. Poroshenko, like so many others knows that Putler will round them up to torture or murder, if not shoot them immediately.

    The choice is die fighting or die in a totalitarian's torture chamber. Choice seems pretty clear.
    Yup

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    Ce la vi

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    "muh Wuhan flu"

    DarrinS keeps the dagger out for the Red Chinese.

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    Citizens need to be armed. Remember this the next time some authoritarian says otherwise.

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    Zelensky has lost his damn mind

    Last few instructions he is giving to his people:

    - stay home make molotov tails
    - grab an AK on your way to get supplies
    - block Russian tanks and vehicles with your own body
    - mqke citizens arrests of suspected Russian agents. A suspected russian agent is anyone that is filming stuff



    The Comedian has ing lost it

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    lol Nathan openly pining for the boogaloo

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    I expect Biden to shut this down like he shutdown the virus.

    You guys act like COVID was totally under control when Biden took office. It was literally spreading like a wildfire. Trump didn't even address COVID his last two months as President he was more worried about accusing all the dems of cheating him out of the election he lost

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