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    dang man his diehard fans are getting a kick out of all of this. But seriously DeRozan is putting up monster stats. I'm too lazy and uninterested in the particulars of why. I would imagine have Vuceic, Lavine, Ball, and and Caruso as running mates takes off a lot of attention for him offensively. He needs to do this in May. Last time he had a deep playoff run Toronto benched him the entire 4th quarter of a decisive game.

    IRregardless to all of that, we all should be rooting for his team unequivocally if he ends up playing LA in the finals.
    He’s been playing very well in the absence of Lonzo, Caruso and Lavine.

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    I don’t find skip very intuitive but the Spurs are his team and Pop and this team have been been lousy for years now. Maybe just Pop but at some point you have to consider he isn’t this godlike fogure some make him out to be. Even with Tim, Tony and Manu Pop often out coached himself.

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    I don’t find skip very intuitive but the Spurs are his team and Pop and this team have been been lousy for years now. Maybe just Pop but at some point you have to consider he isn’t this godlike fogure some make him out to be. Even with Tim, Tony and Manu Pop often out coached himself.
    Demars USG% last year was 26. His USG% this year is 32. Call it the Russell Westbrook effect. More shots make a player look better to casuals.

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    Now this is just dumb

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    I don’t find skip very intuitive but the Spurs are his team and Pop and this team have been been lousy for years now. Maybe just Pop but at some point you have to consider he isn’t this godlike fogure some make him out to be. Even with Tim, Tony and Manu Pop often out coached himself.

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    Lol @ David's Stern "no one gets to double team Jordan" rules.
    true true

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    Go figure the dude is lights out once he leaves San Antonio.

    Wish him the best but I won't lie seeing him succeed like this just reminds me how much we've been floundering and what could have been. I'm glad we got some picks this year but damn.

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    Lol @ David's Stern "no one gets to double team Jordan" rules.
    What do you mean by this? Were teams not able to double Jordan or other guards due to certain rules being in place back then?

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    The Spurs are the ones who turned him into this player,
    Now surrounded by a lot better talent he's doing great.
    Should they have kept him? Nope

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    The only lesson DeMar should teach fans is that there’s room for players older than 30 years old on any team. Folks are obsessed with filling up the whole team with all youth and no vets or role players to keep things steady.

    ”25 year old DJ’s peak is almost here, pretty soon our window will be closed. We need to surround him with good players before it’s too late”

    Yet here’s 32 year old DeMar going off and yall are heaping praise about him.
    Last edited by Dejounte; 02-26-2022 at 08:12 AM.

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    DDR also showing how dumb the Lakers FO and LeBron are at team building.

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    DDR also showing how dumb the Lakers FO and LeBron are at team building.
    Yes, but also no. It's true that DMDR would've been a better player, but it would have been hard for the Lakers to give the Spurs good compensation for him without tampering. They would have had to convincingly draft someone the Spurs wanted with their pick without SA having input on who that was, or else they would have had to give up their 2027 pick unprotected. I did and still do like Kuzma a decent amount, so him and Harrell with that pick would have been a more useful return at least. Don't know if the Spurs would have wanted Zach Collins if they had done that trade.

    Undoubtedly, though, LAL messed up taking Westbrook. They literally could have traded for Wall and done better. They probably should have just not done anything.

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    The only lesson DeMar should teach fans is that there’s room for players older than 30 years old on any team. Folks are obsessed with filling up the whole team with all youth and no vets or role players to keep things steady.

    ”25 year old DJ’s peak is almost here, pretty soon our window will be closed. We need to surround him with good players before it’s too late”

    Yet here’s 32 year old DeMar going off and yall are heaping praise about him.
    DeRozan is a great map for Murray in the sense that it shows players who can still rise in tier in their late 20s and even early 30s. Most superstars show early. By the end of their first contracts, they're already All-Star level. DeRozan had his jump in his fifth year, and Murray had it in his sixth. DJM is a tier or two short of where he needs to be in order to be the lead dog on a le team, but he might get there, and DeRozan shows us that he might even get there five years from now. Even if he hits a relative plateau soon, he might break through later.

    About building around him: DeRozan shows more to me that the Spurs might be able to find an older complimentary piece for Murray than we talk about most of the time. We talk about Collins, Turner, Lavine and the like as guys who are young building pieces. It's probably more efficient or realistic to look at an older player like DeRozan or Paul. I don't know who that player would be right now, but it's an option.

    Anyway, the urgency to strike while the Murray iron is hot is his contract, not his age. The Spurs don't have a window right now to close, but it's probably easier to open one up before DJM makes $30 Million or more a year. This is like a Curry in 2016 situation.

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    Just playing the devil’s advocate. But would it be funny if Demar ring immediately after leaving the Spurs like Kawhi did? It’s not impossible with no clear favorite and Demar playing the way he is. Wow the narrative. Should I be rooting for Demar to win it all?

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    10692670[/URL]]Just playing the devil’s advocate. But would it be funny if Demar ring immediately after leaving the Spurs like Kawhi did? It’s not impossible with no clear favorite and Demar playing the way he is. Wow the narrative. Should I be rooting for Demar to win it all?
    Demar is not good in the playoffs and Bulls fan will figure this out soon. Spurs helped him overcome some of those demons, but he’ll struggle like always. He’ll still get his points but he won’t be score 30 points a game. I wish Demar luck, but this Bulls team ain’t winning .

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    Demar is not good in the playoffs and Bulls fan will figure this out soon. Spurs helped him overcome some of those demons, but he’ll struggle like always. He’ll still get his points but he won’t be score 30 points a game. I wish Demar luck, but this Bulls team ain’t winning .
    The narrative is that Demar is now a better player after learning from Pop, at least that’s what he says. He’s not just a scoring machine, but now able to pick his opponent and knowing when to unleash it. Demar has been a clutch shooter lately and playing great without Lavine, Carusso, Ball and Vucevic at times. I like the synergy of the Bulls and they are peaking at the right time. If Demar rung immediately after the Spurs, again the same as Kawhi did, wow Spurs could be a laughingstock, depending how pundits would put it, like Skip is now questioning the Spurs. Again, I’m just playing the devil’s advocate here.

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    10692695[/URL]]The narrative is that Demar is now a better player after learning from Pop, at least that’s what he says. He’s not just a scoring machine, but now able to pick his opponent and knowing when to unleash it. Demar has been a clutch shooter lately and playing great without Lavine, Carusso, Ball and Vucevic at times. I like the synergy of the Bulls and they are peaking at the right time. If Demar rung immediately after the Spurs, again the same as Kawhi did, wow Spurs could be a laughingstock, depending how pundits would put it, like Skip is now questioning the Spurs. Again, I’m just playing the devil’s advocate here.
    Demar doing well helps the Spurs front office look better on the trade. OKC still gets slammed for trading Harden for Kevin Martin.

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    Demar doing well helps the Spurs front office look better on the trade. OKC still gets slammed for trading Harden for Kevin Martin.
    As they should

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    Young is absolutely balling out for the Raptors.

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    Young is absolutely balling out for the Raptors.
    He’s 34, and dropping 8/4, and shooting a lower FG% there than he did while dropping 6/4 for us. Can we stop with the drama?

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    Young is absolutely balling out for the Raptors.
    Might deserve a separate thread

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    The Bulls have surrounded Demar with more talent. He had too much on his shoulders here. With the way our young group is maturing, though, I think a Demar-like star could land here and be more impactful than he was.

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    Demar was great for us and he is not significantly different this year in Chicago.
    The main change is that his usage rate is up from 26% last year to 31% this year while maintaining his efficiency.
    That is not surprising to me.

    For the Spurs he was a really good scorer, above average as a finisher, he learned how to be an assist man with us, and his defense was poor.
    I see the same guy on the Bulls except he is putting up one more 3pointer per game, has a much better supporting cast, and a higher usage rate.

    The biggest problem on the Spurs was the lack of 3 point shooting. You can't start DDR, DJM, White, and Poeltl and compete in a league that averages 35 3pt attempts a game.
    We either committed to an aging DDR and got rid of some of those other starters to put 3 pt shooting around him or we moved DDR and committed to the young guys.
    I think we made the right move.

    I'm really happy to see DDR doing well. He was my favorite Spur after Manu retired.

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    DDR also showing how dumb the Lakers FO and LeBron are at team building.
    This is the real take away from the offseason. They didn't want to sign-and-trade because it would hard cap them. Instead they get Westbrook and may miss the playoffs.

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    This is the real take away from the offseason. They didn't want to sign-and-trade because it would hard cap them. Instead they get Westbrook and may miss the playoffs.
    and even worse: they got Westbrook!

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