21 is still young. People still want to keep Lonnie and he is 23 but he should be gone at the end of the year. Devin is 21 and Im not ready to give up on him yet. Charlotte is at more of a win now stage then the Spurs so they will be playing their more established players.
I have never seen anything as far as problems go with nurse other then he doesnt like him. he did the same thing last year and the year before. This is just nurse benching a player not an at ude issue.
When you mouth off to your coach, that’s the very definition of an at ude problem.
Devin and Lonnie have both shown something so far. The point isn’t 21. The point is 21, and no real skills yet at the NBA level. That’s probably too high a hill to climb. I’ll be curious to see if his year 3 option gets picked up after this year.
Do you have anything to show that he mouthed off to his coach as I have never seen this. everything I have seen is he was a good teammate and takes directions well.
This is Kai first year. he has done well in the Gleague. I would say he has done better then Devin or lonnie did in Gleague. Most Spurs do not get much playing time in the first year so I could see why Kai has not gotten much playing time. Lonnie in the NBA has had a few Flashes but he has also shown that he is vastly inconsistent. I would not count this as him showing much.
Our team stinks defensively when Poeltl sits. If this team even contemplates moving him this summer they better have a good plan for what to do to replace his defense, because we'll be giving up 130 a night without him on the floor.
I think Ja single handedly ended Jak's career. All these advanced stats saying how Jak is the greatest defender in the league should be on the back of that poster Jak starred in
It's not even that he got dunked on (everyone gets dunked on) but more that Ja never even recognized his existence on the floor. Like Jak could've been on the bench eating popcorn and still produced the same result as him playing the actual game defensively. Just lay up after lay up after lay up.
Agreed. Also the assumption that Jak is gone after next season is annoying. He should only be traded away for a relatively hefty price.
I think for most it’s realizing you can get a nice return for Jak currently because his contract holds solid value, or risk losing him a year later in free agency when he gets a nice pay day.
That’s simply put, yet somehow too difficult to understand for many of the posters here.
The Spurs hold his bird rights and he only turns 27 in October. If he was 30 years old right now then yes the Spurs should trade him sooner than later.
He starts his new contact in his age 28 season. He should still have about 3 years of prime basketball left. Plus his skill set should age well since it doesn't rely on speed or explosion.
weve got jak for 9 mil next year which is a bargain. then we have his bird rights. wouldnt move him unless the offer blew me away. by the time hes a FA in the 2023 offseason we'll have a lot of cap flexibility to decide how to move forward
If the Spurs aren't looking to trade Poeltl, they should look into extending him. The max extension he can sign is $50.5M/4. Considering the rising cap, that wouldn't be a bad deal for the Spurs. Jakob would probably remain tradeable on that contract. I could see Poeltl's representation telling him not to sign it, though I would consider that to be really risky given his very real limitations and the tendency for role-playing centers to not get paid a lot. Like with Murray, Jakob's signing has calendar issues. He signed his new deal in November of 2020, meaning the team couldn't offer him an extension until next season is underway. With DeJounte, it's a bigger deal, because the Spurs probably won't be able to use cap space to renegotiate his contract and save some salary down the road. But it also matters, because the Spurs can't extend Poeltl for that contract and then trade him in the same season. Oh well.
Jak at 12.6 million a year would be a great deal for the Spurs. Doubt he would sign it without testing the market.
Finally poodle power getting the love he deserves
I don't see anyway he signs that but if the Spurs can get him in at that rate they should.
I doubt Poeltl signs $12.6/4. If he did, great. Any more than that, bye Poeltl. Unless he improves his FT to 60% and better, and his ppg in high teens.
Poeltl is solid but he still struggles with athletic bigs-if he can get some help at the 4 spot with some more length that would be nice.
Almost everyone universally agrees that the Spurs will struggle as a free agent destination. Last summer's free agent haul was a slightly overpaid McDermott, an unproven and injured Zollins plus Forbes.
Just pay Jak. He's about the best they'll do for the money.
How much would you pay Jak?
15 million or less. Letting him go rewinds the clock on plausible championship contention in 3 years with one home run draft pick. ��
I think he gets traded this summer there was a lot of noise about teams wanting him before the trade dead line I expect those talks to continue.
I seriously think Poeltl would ask more than that. As many claim here, Poeltl is top 10 center, and top 10 centers don’t get $15mil or less.
Yeah, I believe that too.
You're probably correct. Heck Thad Young is making 14 million this season. If Jak is a top 10 center then keeping him is a no brainer above 15 million. Again he'll only be 28 on the first year of his new deal. Plenty of good basketball ahead.
We either trade poodle for a good haul or resign. No worries here
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