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  1. 03-02-2022 #4426
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    Let’s recall what exactly Paul Manafort and Rudy Giuliani were doing in Ukraine

    Paul Manafort... was hired by oligarchs supporting a pro-Russian party in Ukraine.

    One of his key aides in Ukraine was, allegedly, a Russian spy.

    Kilimnik was both “a Russian intelligence officer” and “an integral part of Manafort’s operations in Ukraine and Russia.”

    Manafort did quite well during his time in Ukraine. He was paid tens of millions of dollars by pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych and other clients, stashing much of the money in undeclared bank accounts in Cyprus and the Caribbean.

    Manafort continued to work on the “plan” even after he had been indicted on charges of bank fraud and conspiracy,

     Rudy Giuliani came to the fore as the most Ukraine-connected person close to President Trump. Giuliani had long jetted around Eastern Europe.

    Giuliani ended up working with a pair of émigré business partners, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, to make contacts in Ukraine with corrupt and questionable prosecutors

    Paul Manafort: convicted of financial fraud — then pardoned by Trump

    Rick Gates:     a Manafort aide who pleaded guilty to conspiracy and lying to the FBI

    Sam Patten:     another Manafort associate convicted for acting as a straw donor to the Trump inaugural committee on behalf of a Ukrainian oligarch

    Rudy Giuliani:     reportedly under criminal investigation over his dealings in Ukraine; his lawyer called an FBI search of his home and seizure of electronic devices “legal thuggery”

    Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman:     convicted for funneling foreign money into U.S. elections; Parnas’ attorney said he would appeal

    https://www.rawstory.com/giuliani-ukraine-2656824016
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    Glorious Chechens evacuating civilians.

    May Allah bless them

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    Quote Originally Posted by boutons_deux
    Let’s recall what exactly Paul Manafort and Rudy Giuliani were doing in Ukraine

    Paul Manafort... was hired by oligarchs supporting a pro-Russian party in Ukraine.

    One of his key aides in Ukraine was, allegedly, a Russian spy.

    Kilimnik was both “a Russian intelligence officer” and “an integral part of Manafort’s operations in Ukraine and Russia.”

    Manafort did quite well during his time in Ukraine. He was paid tens of millions of dollars by pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych and other clients, stashing much of the money in undeclared bank accounts in Cyprus and the Caribbean.

    Manafort continued to work on the “plan” even after he had been indicted on charges of bank fraud and conspiracy,

     Rudy Giuliani came to the fore as the most Ukraine-connected person close to President Trump. Giuliani had long jetted around Eastern Europe.

    Giuliani ended up working with a pair of émigré business partners, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, to make contacts in Ukraine with corrupt and questionable prosecutors

    Paul Manafort: convicted of financial fraud — then pardoned by Trump

    Rick Gates:     a Manafort aide who pleaded guilty to conspiracy and lying to the FBI

    Sam Patten:     another Manafort associate convicted for acting as a straw donor to the Trump inaugural committee on behalf of a Ukrainian oligarch

    Rudy Giuliani:     reportedly under criminal investigation over his dealings in Ukraine; his lawyer called an FBI search of his home and seizure of electronic devices “legal thuggery”

    Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman:     convicted for funneling foreign money into U.S. elections; Parnas’ attorney said he would appeal

    https://www.rawstory.com/giuliani-ukraine-2656824016
    You already sacked Manafort and reduced him to mush, bouts. He's broken. You won. Just grateful that President Trump saved him from suicide.

    You're trying to do Rudy likewise. 50/50 whether you can break him in the Manafort mold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boutons_deux
    If true gotta nail up as many pelts & scalps as we can and lodge them upon Putin's teepee lodge pole before the plug is pulled.

    CHARGE!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hater
    Whatever it takes to wipe out Nazis

    thank you Red Army
    You don't know what a Nazi is do you
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    The “too” russians being taken prisoners.

    Some are too young, some too old, and some too out of shape.


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    "I was at the State Department, the president was the vice-president the last time Russia invaded Ukraine," Psaki said on CNN Wednesday. "This is a pattern of horror from President Putin and from the cronies around him."

    She's not wrong, there is a pattern
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
    "I was at the State Department, the president was the vice-president the last time Russia invaded Ukraine," Psaki said on CNN Wednesday. "This is a pattern of horror from President Putin and from the cronies around him."

    She's not wrong, there is a pattern
    And a good one.
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    From State run media CNN...

    US officials warn Russia will increasingly hit civilian targets and seek 'slow annihilation' of Ukraine's military


    See, those same US officials tried to talk Putin into rushing this. Uh, uh.

    "slow annihilation" so Biden won't miss a in' moment of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thread
    From State run media CNN...

    US officials warn Russia will increasingly hit civilian targets and seek 'slow annihilation' of Ukraine's military


    See, those same US officials tried to talk Putin into rushing this. Uh, uh.

    "slow annihilation" so Biden won't miss a in' moment of it.
    As opposed to the fast anihilation we gave countless countries like Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc, etc, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by hater
    Glorious Chechens evacuating civilians.

    May Allah bless them

    If they went back to Russia, no one would have to be evacuated.

    hater is a battered wife
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    Ouch!

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    What is #1 on hater's list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hater
    Glorious Chechens evacuating civilians.

    May Allah bless them

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    Quote Originally Posted by hater
    As opposed to the fast anihilation we gave countless countries like Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc, etc, etc
    Bingo!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hater
    As opposed to the fast anihilation we gave countless countries like Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc, etc, etc
    It took us a month to take Iraq

    Pootin is on D+6
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
    It took us a month to take Iraq

    Pootin is on D+6
    we werent bordering iraq
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
    It took us a month to take Iraq

    Pootin is on D+6
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    we werent bordering iraq
    That's not how Bin Laden felt about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
    That's not how Bin Laden felt about it
    good for him

    do you need a map?
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    hater and boy cheering on war crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hater
    the US invasion of Iraq was bad

    the Russian invasion of Ukraine is bad

    its pretty simple and obvious to be able to say both of those things. of course, when your entire worldview is "US bad, anything anti-US is good" you are incapable of engaging in logic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Hunting
    You're missing my point. I didn't say the crime bill was racist; I said that Bill Clinton won the black vote by North Korea-sized margins without one iota of the pandering Democrats do for black people today (i.e., Bill Clinton didn't pick an affirmative action VP or promise to put a black woman on the supreme court).

    The defund the police stuff is re ed and it's mostly a white leftist thing, but it's an oversimplification to act like that's the only problem Dems have with working class Hispanics and whites. One example, we have an unqualified DNC chair who's literally refusing to leave his house in South Carolina to do his job because of muh COVID, and the only reason he ever got the job of DNC Chair was his skin color.

    " ting on black people" (even though I'm not saying on them, I'm just saying stop pandering to them left and right with affirmative action leadership picks) wins you working class Hispanics. Every Hispanic family has sweet little abuela who'd secretly rather get sodomized by a machete than see her granddaughter marry a black man.

    Take SCOTUS for example - Biden could have still picked Brown Jackson, but he could have thrown a few hispanic judges on his short list so they don't feel shafted. Instead he made a black woman pledge and we now have club for growth running targeted ads about all the Hispanic judges Biden refused to consider because of his commitment to pick a black woman.
    It is definitely a white activist/progressive issue among Dems for sure at least more than other groups



    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...in-their-area/

    Defund is hilariously unpopular as can be seen in the other polls there lol
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