The Penthouse Of Josh Primo

[TDomination]

“(Sending Primo back to Austin) is not in the cards,” Popovich said. “He’s gotta play. Throw him in the frying pan.”
“It’s time to go out there and be accountable, like everybody else,” Popovich said.

so much for that

[Atl Spur]

The big club is off, why not let him get much neediot

[emanueldavidginobili]

9 points 4-19 0-5 from three 4 rebounds 6 assist 7 turnovers and got blocked 3 times, G League actually has that in the box score. Only caught the last 6 minutes of the game and he looked terrible. Turned it over three times while I was watching, got stripped, completely lost his handle and bounced to the other team, and got caught in the air and threw a bad pass.

[BacktoBasics]

9 points 4-19 0-5 from three 4 rebounds 6 assist 7 turnovers and got blocked 3 times, G League actually has that in the box score. Only caught the last 6 minutes of the game and he looked terrible. Turned it over three times while I was watching, got stripped, completely lost his handle and bounced to the other team, and got caught in the air and threw a bad pass.

To me these are signs of growing pains that come with acclimating to a longer season. Especially at his age.

[Mr. Body]

He may have hit the rookie wall. A lot has been thrown at him, plus trying to change his shot. I don't figure he'll be great the rest of the season.

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He's gotten more timid, not less, as the season has progressed.

[The Truth #6]

He's gotten more timid, not less, as the season has progressed.

I definitely agree with that, which is a bummer because his confidence was one of his strengths. Presumably, the reality of his limitations as a young player in the NBA became clear and he is trying to figure it out.

[Chomag]

He's gotten more timid, not less, as the season has progressed.

Yep, I'm afraid he got . Just like what happened to Lonnie and even Vasell to a lesser extent, Pop is in his head now but hopefully unlike Lonnie he can bounce back before there is permanent damage.

That or Pop leaves before completely screwing the kid's head up.

[KingKev]

I’m probably one of the least bullish on Primo on this bord but I wouldn’t put much mind into his recent play. He has a long journey ahead of him but PATFO obviously sees something and he was always a 2-3 year project.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I’m probably one of the least bullish on Primo on this bord but I wouldn’t put much mind into his recent play. He has a long journey ahead of him but PATFO obviously sees something and he was always a 2-3 year project.

I agree. He's the youngest player in the league and at this point it's more about the flashes of what he could be than about efficient production. He's also played in a lot of games this season already, both NBA and GLeague, and been thrown into different roles. This might be good for his development (or not) but it sure must be difficult for him compared to having a small, non complicated, consistent role.

At the time of the draft I wanted Moody and also liked Bouknight ahead of Primo, but I can see how he has a higher upside than these two, while also having a decent floor due to his good shooting mechanics.

[emanueldavidginobili]

[MannyIsGod]

Not surprised by this at all. Primo hasn't really shown anything of note and the Spurs seem to be settling into the play in game race. I think Primo has shown very good court vision, and has been decent at defense, but otherwise he hasn't really done much other than be a body out there. Don't get me wrong, for a 19 year old to be playing rotation minutes I do think that is notable, but the guy doesn't really create any offense and his shot has not been good.

[rjv]

To me these are signs of growing pains that come with acclimating to a longer season. Especially at his age.

exactly, the gruel of an 82 game season is taxing, especially on an 18 year old.

[Atl Spur]

He’s doing fine. They’ve thrown a lot at him and it will all slow down in time.

[BackHome]

I think him also playing PG for G League is making him do things that are very uncomfortable for him but should help him next year hopefully with better handles and court awareness.

[Sugus]

So much for him having "grown out" of playing in the G-League

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So much for him having "grown out" of playing in the G-League

I really want to root for him but I'm always gonna have that sense of 'what-if' in my gut that we passed on Sengun. Dude would have been a VERY NICE addition to this team.

[John B]

I really want to root for him but I'm always gonna have that sense of 'what-if' in my gut that we passed on Sengun. Dude would have been a VERY NICE addition to this team.

Sengun is safe but his ceiling is a role player. Primo WHEN and IF he pans out will be an AS imo. Spurs need to risk big to win big.

[Sugus]

I really want to root for him but I'm always gonna have that sense of 'what-if' in my gut that we passed on Sengun. Dude would have been a VERY NICE addition to this team.

Yeah, don't tell me about it - I was team Sengun all the way pre-draft. And also team Haliburton last draft...

Sengun is safe but his ceiling is a role player. Primo WHEN and IF he pans out will be an AS imo. Spurs need to risk big to win big.

Lol, where'd you get that idea from? Take off the homer glasses, and you'll see Sengun has proved far more at the NBA level than Primo ever has. As much as I like Primo and believe in him as a prospect, he has shown next to nothing that implies he's a surefire NBA level player, let alone having an All-Star ceiling. His stepback 3 is nice but literally every guard coming into the league nowadays has that in their bag. Sengun's passing, court vision, dribbling and mobility are all above-average for a player of his size and position, he's (for now at least) the much better scorer, and so on.

I know we're all homers at heart, but come on lol. Rockettes nabbed a great one with him. And before you say his defense... He's a rookie, a big man rookie at that. It'll be bad his first couple years, who knows afterwards, but his offense is still a difference-maker. We can't say that about either part of Primo's game right now.

[John B]

Yeah, don't tell me about it - I was team Sengun all the way pre-draft. And also team Haliburton last draft...



Lol, where'd you get that idea from? Take off the homer glasses, and you'll see Sengun has proved far more at the NBA level than Primo ever has. As much as I like Primo and believe in him as a prospect, he has shown next to nothing that implies he's a surefire NBA level player, let alone having an All-Star ceiling. His stepback 3 is nice but literally every guard coming into the league nowadays has that in their bag. Sengun's passing, court vision, dribbling and mobility are all above-average for a player of his size and position, he's (for now at least) the much better scorer, and so on.

I know we're all homers at heart, but come on lol. Rockettes nabbed a great one with him. And before you say his defense... He's a rookie, a big man rookie at that. It'll be bad his first couple years, who knows afterwards, but his offense is still a difference-maker. We can't say that about either part of Primo's game right now.

I didn’t say Sengun was bad. I said he’s a safe pick at 11th, a role player which is normally pick 11 are. But Spurs already have plenty of role players, and one borderline AS. The Spurs needed to take a big swing at Primo and could pay big dividends IF he pans out. I hated the pick as everybody else. But in hindsight, I think the PATFO took a big swing, and I think it’s about time.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Yeah, don't tell me about it - I was team Sengun all the way pre-draft. And also team Haliburton last draft...



Lol, where'd you get that idea from? Take off the homer glasses, and you'll see Sengun has proved far more at the NBA level than Primo ever has. As much as I like Primo and believe in him as a prospect, he has shown next to nothing that implies he's a surefire NBA level player, let alone having an All-Star ceiling. His stepback 3 is nice but literally every guard coming into the league nowadays has that in their bag. Sengun's passing, court vision, dribbling and mobility are all above-average for a player of his size and position, he's (for now at least) the much better scorer, and so on.

I know we're all homers at heart, but come on lol. Rockettes nabbed a great one with him. And before you say his defense... He's a rookie, a big man rookie at that. It'll be bad his first couple years, who knows afterwards, but his offense is still a difference-maker. We can't say that about either part of Primo's game right now.

Haliburton and Sengun would have made this a much better team....alas. Can't win them all.

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Yeah, don't tell me about it - I was team Sengun all the way pre-draft. And also team Haliburton last draft...



Lol, where'd you get that idea from? Take off the homer glasses, and you'll see Sengun has proved far more at the NBA level than Primo ever has. As much as I like Primo and believe in him as a prospect, he has shown next to nothing that implies he's a surefire NBA level player, let alone having an All-Star ceiling. His stepback 3 is nice but literally every guard coming into the league nowadays has that in their bag. Sengun's passing, court vision, dribbling and mobility are all above-average for a player of his size and position, he's (for now at least) the much better scorer, and so on.

I know we're all homers at heart, but come on lol. Rockettes nabbed a great one with him. And before you say his defense... He's a rookie, a big man rookie at that. It'll be bad his first couple years, who knows afterwards, but his offense is still a difference-maker. We can't say that about either part of Primo's game right now.

Yeah Haliburton hurts but I'm hopeful Vassell has an extended run of increasing productivity, so it's not as acute.

And as for Primo's D, it got worse. Not only his ability to stay in front of quicker athletes, but his inability to keep an eye on his man. THE REASON he went back to Austin is because he got beat on two back cuts in a row, and then lost another with lackadaisical effort over like 4 possessions. Pop called timeout and very demostrably signaled for his replacement. I was not surprised at all to see him shipped back to Austin post-game despite Pop's earlier déclaration that it was sink or swim time in the NBA. It seems he sunk.

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I didn’t say Sengun was bad. I said he’s a safe pick at 11th, a role player which is normally pick 11 are. But Spurs already have plenty of role players, and one borderline AS. The Spurs needed to take a big swing at Primo and could pay big dividends IF he pans out. I hated the pick as everybody else. But in hindsight, I think the PATFO took a big swing, and I think it’s about time.

I'm hopeful youre correct, and im trying to stay positive about him. i mean he is the youngest person playing NBA basketball this year...but if the returns were already in today, Sengun was the right choice. We'll see.

[BackHome]

Yeah, don't tell me about it - I was team Sengun all the way pre-draft. And also team Haliburton last draft...

Yeah I liked Sengun their is a good video on YouTube of him being coached by Hakeem the dude still can put on those spin moves.

Lol, where'd you get that idea from? Take off the homer glasses, and you'll see Sengun has proved far more at the NBA level than Primo ever has. As much as I like Primo and believe in him as a prospect, he has shown next to nothing that implies he's a surefire NBA level player, let alone having an All-Star ceiling. His stepback 3 is nice but literally every guard coming into the league nowadays has that in their bag. Sengun's passing, court vision, dribbling and mobility are all above-average for a player of his size and position, he's (for now at least) the much better scorer, and so on.

I know we're all homers at heart, but come on lol. Rockettes nabbed a great one with him. And before you say his defense... He's a rookie, a big man rookie at that. It'll be bad his first couple years, who knows afterwards, but his offense is still a difference-maker. We can't say that about either part of Primo's game right now.

I liked Sengun there is a vid on YouTube that has him being coached by Hakeem man that dude still has those killer spin moves

[Sugus]

I didn’t say Sengun was bad. I said he’s a safe pick at 11th, a role player which is normally pick 11 are. But Spurs already have plenty of role players, and one borderline AS. The Spurs needed to take a big swing at Primo and could pay big dividends IF he pans out. I hated the pick as everybody else. But in hindsight, I think the PATFO took a big swing, and I think it’s about time.

I don't really agree.

It's easy now with hindsight to call Sengun a "safe pick", but at the time of the draft, there were a lot of questions regarding Sengun's game, having only played "lowly Euro ball" (), how his supposed lack of athleticism would hinder his game, and how his mainly post-up game would translate to the modern NBA. Even this board, who should know better than doubting Euro prospects, was divided on him.

And again, I don't know what part of his game makes you so certain that he has a role-player ceiling, but I don't see it. His offense is extremely varied and polished for a rookie and there's no reason to think it won't continue to improve. He can shoot (relatively for a big), he can pass to and back, he's nimble and a quick thinker, and uses his body well. All things that can be improved and built upon. I remember people saying the same about Jokic when he was a rookie/2nd year player.... And he just kept getting better. Of course you can't expect that out of Sengun, but the point stands.

Lastly, I completely agree that the Primo pick was a swing, and I'm fine with it. I've grown to really like what Primo (could) bring to the table, and being the youngest in the league, has plenty of time to put it together. But again, I think it's ludicrous at best to say that player A has a "role-player ceiling" while player B has "All-Star potential", when one is showing an above-average rookie season, while the other is struggling to show he belongs in the NBA at all.