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    I honestly do think the Raptors will choose to back out of the play-in and keep their pick while taking the Pistons second in the process. They just don't see to have any interest in winning anymore.

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    That Raptors pick is looking VERY UNLIKELY to convey.

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    Raptors are about to start tanking. And the Knicks just choked a 14-point lead and lost on a buzzer-beater, so they’re e probably about to start tanking too. Not looking good for the Spurs.

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    Raptors will make the play in imo, Wizards are 6.5 games behind them with 19 games remaining.

    But i don't see them going to the PO, they suck right now.

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    I don't see why the Raptors will tank purposely. Besides if they got to tank, isn't it Spurs still have a chance to get their 2023 (Protected 1-13) pick right? And I don't see them will be very bad next season and I kinda like it instead if it's next draft since it's too much to draft 3 players in the first round unless they'll gonna trade one of them anyways for future pick.

    Just read that Grizzlies can actually take the Lakers pick this season if the Lakers will be in 11-30 (Pelicans if it's 1-10). Damn.

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    That Raptors pick is looking VERY UNLIKELY to convey.
    That’s exaggerated. They’re 7th and still 3.5 up on 8th seed.

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    I don't see why the Raptors will tank purposely. Besides if they got to tank, isn't it Spurs still have a chance to get their 2023 (Protected 1-13) pick right? And I don't see them will be very bad next season and I kinda like it instead if it's next draft since it's too much to draft 3 players in the first round unless they'll gonna trade one of them anyways for future pick.

    Just read that Grizzlies can actually take the Lakers pick this season if the Lakers will be in 11-30 (Pelicans if it's 1-10). Damn.
    I also think they will not tank, i don't see why they will..

    Yes Lakers pick will go to Pels or Grizz.

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    I also think they will not tank, i don't see why they will..

    Yes Lakers pick will go to Pels or Grizz.
    Hope the Grizzlies will have it. Happy for them. Kinda feel like Ja Morant's health is a "time-bomb" like D-Rose but hopefully I'm wrong.

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    I think the Raps make the play in tournament as well as the 8th seed...I'm not sure they'll win either game to make the playoffs though..

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    I don't see why the Raptors will tank purposely. Besides if they got to tank, isn't it Spurs still have a chance to get their 2023 (Protected 1-13) pick right? And I don't see them will be very bad next season and I kinda like it instead if it's next draft since it's too much to draft 3 players in the first round unless they'll gonna trade one of them anyways for future pick.

    Just read that Grizzlies can actually take the Lakers pick this season if the Lakers will be in 11-30 (Pelicans if it's 1-10). Damn.
    The Raptors get the Pistons' second-rounder regardless. If they tank to keep their pick this year and then just decide to do a bigger rebuild next year (like trading FVV and Siakam), they could definitely end up not conveying the first to SA. Hopefully in that scenario, their second is really good, and they stay bad enough to also convey a good second in 2026. But that's salvage value.

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    I don't see why the Raptors will tank purposely. Besides if they got to tank, isn't it Spurs still have a chance to get their 2023 (Protected 1-13) pick right? And I don't see them will be very bad next season and I kinda like it instead if it's next draft since it's too much to draft 3 players in the first round unless they'll gonna trade one of them anyways for future pick.

    Just read that Grizzlies can actually take the Lakers pick this season if the Lakers will be in 11-30 (Pelicans if it's 1-10). Damn.
    They won't. They're a top heavy team missing probably their best (Van Vleet) and third best player (Anunoby), who also comprise two of their three credible 3-point threats, paving the way for teams to zone them to death. They were also due to regress to the mean.

    If at least Van Vleet (day to day) returns soon, they'll probably pass the Cavaliers for 6th. Even if they don't, if the Nets don't get reasonable healthy/in rhythm, they could beat them in the play-in.

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    If we end the season at 26-56, giving Pop the top spot in coaching wins, where do you think that puts us prior to the draft lottery? I think that puts us at 4.

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    If we end the season at 26-56, giving Pop the top spot in coaching wins, where do you think that puts us prior to the draft lottery? I think that puts us at 4.
    That would be the best possible scenario.

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    This point, I expect Portland and the Knicks to drop worse than the Spurs, who will wind up at #9. If Sacramento is worse, then #10. A number 9 slot still gives a 20% shot at a top 4 pick, but the 10 only a 14%.

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    That would be the best possible scenario.
    Yep...but I think we end up at 7 or 8 going into the lottery..

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    That’s exaggerated. They’re 7th and still 3.5 up on 8th seed.
    On a team that just got back the best player in the league AND will soon get the services of Ben Simmons to boot. Not to mention, both Atlanta and Charlotte are right behind them. They are gonna be lucky to hold onto the 10th seed.

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    On a team that just got back the best player in the league AND will soon get the services of Ben Simmons to boot. Not to mention, both Atlanta and Charlotte are right behind them. They are gonna be lucky to hold onto the 10th seed.

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    On a team that just got back the best player in the league AND will soon get the services of Ben Simmons to boot. Not to mention, both Atlanta and Charlotte are right behind them. They are gonna be lucky to hold onto the 10th seed.
    The Raps falling behind Brooklyn is probably imo, and falling behind Atlanta and Charlotte is plausible. But they would have also be passed by the Wizards, who the Raps are 5.5 games up on with only 20 left, to fall out of the top 10 and miss the play-in. I think that's rather unlikely.

    I think the seed possibilities for Toronto, in decreasing order of likelihood, are 7-8, 9-10, top 6, out of the top 10.

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    This is a good loss. Entertaining, opportunities for growth from the young guys, AND still increase our odds of a higher lottery pick.

    In essence.. Spurs win!

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    This is a good loss. Entertaining, opportunities for growth from the young guys, AND still increase our odds of a higher lottery pick.

    In essence.. Spurs win!
    This

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    Spurs lost and Lakers won should be good, right? Let’s go Lebron

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    The Raps falling behind Brooklyn is probably imo, and falling behind Atlanta and Charlotte is plausible. But they would have also be passed by the Wizards, who the Raps are 5.5 games up on with only 20 left, to fall out of the top 10 and miss the play-in. I think that's rather unlikely.

    I think the seed possibilities for Toronto, in decreasing order of likelihood, are 7-8, 9-10, top 6, out of the top 10.
    We need them in the playoffs, not the play in. If they’re 9-10, we have a near zero chance at the pick. They would have to win two consecutive high pressure games to play in.

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    On a team that just got back the best player in the league AND will soon get the services of Ben Simmons to boot. Not to mention, both Atlanta and Charlotte are right behind them. They are gonna be lucky to hold onto the 10th seed.
    No one knows when Simmons is going to make it on the court ?

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    I'm ready for our next foundational talent.

    Praying for a jump to 2nd pick to snag Chet.


    Dejounte/Tre/
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    Poeltl/Chet

    Then maybe try to draft 1/3/4 with the 18-20 pick(s). BPA ideally not at SG but Wendell Moore does have an interesting rate of progression. I'm partial to the guys like Jimmy Butler / Kawhi / Otto porter that start off their careers with improvement across the board in all facets consistently. Moore has a comparable rate of progression but made a big jump in passing seemingly this last year. If you can learn to pass from not passing much which keeping turnovers the same.. very interesting

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    Toronto would be winning this game if Siakam could make a FT....he's making jak look like steph from the line tonight.

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