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    There's no way a fringe prospect, small guard should get a free pass for being a non 3-point shooter; yet there he is forcing them to play 4 on 5 on offense and he's being rewarded for it by not only backing up Murray but playing alongside.

    Spare me the spiel about who's out and the lack of a secondary creator. Not only should that be irrelevant to a team in this situation, it's actually better to really hammer the point home if he's benched with no other viable backup ball handler.

    We've seen this far too many times over the years, from Anderson and Murray to Aldridge and DeRozan to a lesser extent Bates-Diop. At some point, looking and acting the part of a prototypical Spur can't take precedence over such egregiousness.

    With virtually no 3-point shooting out of their two best players, everyone else needs to shoot them on at least decent volume.

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    You should write a sternly written letter!
    Mention things about lawns and .

    I'm with you! We should show up with signs and stuff! Like go all Karen and .

    Let's Go Nukular.

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    I don't mind him as a backup PG since we have a legit all star in front of him but man I never wanna see the Jones/Murray pairing again.

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    He's been a great tank commander for now, and at least he is getting some good experience at the NBA level...surprising for such a late pick.

    He has some good tools to his game, but yeah...he is NEVER going to survive the NBA if he doesn't fix that shot. He's got a lot of shooting practice ahead of him just to become a serviceable role player.

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    He's just not very good.

    But he's great for the tank.

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    Second round pick, it's going to be a tough road for him to stay in the NBA. There hasn't been a second round pick that the Spurs drafted that stuck around for a couple years since Blair? over a decade ago.

    770 minutes played this season 3-26 from three!!

    Undersized, not strong, not extremely fast, and can't shoot.

    I don't really care right now because this team is going no where this season and it's best to get a better pick. Next year though if he is in the rotation then we have a problem.

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    Tre is an 80% FT shooter. I don’t doubt he’s going to add that 3pt shot, maybe this off-season. Already he’s the best natural PG that Spurs have. He is poised and never get rattled easily. His mid-range is money, and he had no problem attacking the rim. And he’s a pretty good defender. Tre is going to be okay.
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    Got rid of Patty and replaced him with the Anti Patty tbh

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    There's no way a fringe prospect, small guard should get a free pass for being a non 3-point shooter; yet there he is forcing them to play 4 on 5 on offense and he's being rewarded for it by not only backing up Murray but playing alongside.

    Spare me the spiel about who's out and the lack of a secondary creator. Not only should that be irrelevant to a team in this situation, it's actually better to really hammer the point home if he's benched with no other viable backup ball handler.

    We've seen this far too many times over the years, from Anderson and Murray to Aldridge and DeRozan to a lesser extent Bates-Diop. At some point, looking and acting the part of a prototypical Spur can't take precedence over such egregiousness.

    With virtually no 3-point shooting out of their two best players, everyone else needs to shoot them on at least decent volume.
    Kinda said that last time and some fool of course made an excuse for it.

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    I don't mind him as a backup PG since we have a legit all star in front of him but man I never wanna see the Jones/Murray pairing again.
    I think that pairing had more to do with Primo being out sick yesterday than anything else. Don’t expect that to be the norm.

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    Some people were really overhyping him. He looks like a 3rd string PG at best. But like others have said, he’s helping the tank.

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    Some people were really overhyping him. He looks like a 3rd string PG at best. But like others have said, he’s helping the tank.
    He’ll be a fine backup PG. Just remember how cringeworthy CoJo was in the early days and what he blossomed into with a few seasons. This guys has better feel than CoJo had at this point in the game.

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    The you want to happen.

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    I'm not nearly as down on him as some here. He's got a lot of skill and is a true PG. He'll be able to hang around the league with the what his game has now. Now that I've said that, I hope his goal isn't just to hang around...for him to be anything more he's got to be very good 3 point shooter. I would expect that's going to be the focus of his summer work. If he develops it he becomes a very interesting player...if he doesn't he'll bounce around the league..

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    I know we could, but would we want to keep Josh Richardson as the backup. And get rid of Jones? I think it would be a big upgrade at PG.

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    He’ll be a fine backup PG. Just remember how cringeworthy CoJo was in the early days and what he blossomed into with a few seasons. This guys has better feel than CoJo had at this point in the game.
    Cojo definitely was a mess to start, but he had good size and was long and played with grit and was able to defend. Tre doesn't have any of the physically abilities he has, it's going to be tough, he absolutely has a great feel of the game I will give him that but he has to improve his shot to where it's okay to have him out there for some time despite his defense some what like Patty, and I don't think he will reach that point. I'm pulling for him though, but is he really a back up PG you would want on your team to compete for a championship?

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    I believe in summer league he was shooting the 3 at a decent percentage, and better than Primo. I think these things come in stages for players. He's making progress. I think he'll become a league average 3 point shooter, if not better. Giving up on him now seems silly. Not saying he's great or anything like that. But pretty much every player on the team has some flaw, which makes sense because, well, you know, we are a bad team.

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    The point is being missed. It's about the bigger picture. Jones taking wide open, spot up corner 3s isn't going to have an adverse affect on the tank. He's otherwise relatively solid, but his unwillingness to take them isn't any more acceptable because he's early in his career.

    Again, this is a pattern with this franchise and it's unacceptable. The next time he doesn't space to 3 off ball or refuses to take one gifted to him, he should be immediately benched for the remainder of the game. Rinse and repeat until it gets through and in the process send a message to the rest of the team.

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    The point is being missed. It's about the bigger picture. Jones taking wide open, spot up corner 3s isn't going to have an adverse affect on the tank. He's otherwise relatively solid, but his unwillingness to take them isn't any more acceptable because he's early in his career.

    Again, this is a pattern with this franchise and it's unacceptable. The next time he doesn't space to 3 off ball or refuses to take one gifted to him, he should be immediately benched for the remainder of the game. Rinse and repeat until it gets through and in the process send a message to the rest of the team.
    Completely agree. I actually don't mind Jones, but he shouldn't be given minutes if he is afraid to shoot. I have no doubt at all he works on it really hard, so just shoot the ing ball. Unacceptable.

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    I'm sure Popovich hasn't told him anything about shooting threes or not at this point in time, being his coach and all.

    He's also the only actual point guard on the roster.

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    There's no way a fringe prospect, small guard should get a free pass for being a non 3-point shooter; yet there he is forcing them to play 4 on 5 on offense and he's being rewarded for it by not only backing up Murray but playing alongside.

    Spare me the spiel about who's out and the lack of a secondary creator. Not only should that be irrelevant to a team in this situation, it's actually better to really hammer the point home if he's benched with no other viable backup ball handler.

    We've seen this far too many times over the years, from Anderson and Murray to Aldridge and DeRozan to a lesser extent Bates-Diop. At some point, looking and acting the part of a prototypical Spur can't take precedence over such egregiousness.

    With virtually no 3-point shooting out of their two best players, everyone else needs to shoot them on at least decent volume.
    This is the TP , CoJo and Murray development path, he won't shoot that until year 3 just does not have the range right now. It is not really as damaging as a wing who does not shoot 3.

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    Cojo definitely was a mess to start, but he had good size and was long and played with grit and was able to defend. Tre doesn't have any of the physically abilities he has, it's going to be tough, he absolutely has a great feel of the game I will give him that but he has to improve his shot to where it's okay to have him out there for some time despite his defense some what like Patty, and I don't think he will reach that point. I'm pulling for him though, but is he really a back up PG you would want on your team to compete for a championship?
    What physical tools do you mean? They both are 6’3” with meh wingspans (CoJo on inch longer at a whooping 6’5”).

    I personally think Tre is much further along than CoJo was at this point.

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    If the point of this thread is that he should shoot widen open threes, then yes, I agree.

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    If the point of this thread is that he should shoot widen open threes, then yes, I agree.
    Not if he can't hit them, and he's proven that is not in his skillset. At that point, it's just a wasted possession, and it's not going to add any spacing because teams are still just gonna sit back and let him throw up bricks.

    , we might as well just start posting him up against the likes of Embiid or Jokic, because post ups are high efficiency plays, right?

    I do agree that him not being able to shoot open threes IS a problem, and something he needs to fix. But just asking him to shoot them anyways right now isn't the best solution. Let him play to the strengths he currently has and then he can try to add the three over the summer.

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    Not if he can't hit them, and he's proven that is not in his skillset. At that point, it's just a wasted possession, and it's not going to add any spacing because teams are still just gonna sit back and let him throw up bricks.

    , we might as well just start posting him up against the likes of Embiid or Jokic, because post ups are high efficiency plays, right?

    I do agree that him not being able to shoot open threes IS a problem, and something he needs to fix. But just asking him to shoot them anyways right now isn't the best solution. Let him play to the strengths he currently has and then he can try to add the three over the summer.
    He shot 36% in SL at 2.8 attempts. I’m ok with him continuing, or starting, to shoot open 3’s. Lonnie’s percentage has been horrible this year but I don’t think he should stop either if open. I hear what you’re saying about wasted possessions. My response would be that we suck and the purpose of this season is development. Think about Eubanks. He talked about all the work he did on his 3 and then attempted like five all year and got moved. My point is, players need to learn to show the initiative as well, otherwise they’ll never break through in their development.

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