His play this year has improved against most of the better centers, over previous seasons. The Minnesota game was a bit of an anomaly. Without Poeltl this team has no interior defense. Jock is an awful defender, and Collins is really out of position a bit at the 5, getting smushed by stronger guys. Our team defense takes a bit hit without Jakob.
Fair point but I’d draw a line at Leonard asking out and we go from there but again this is a useless exercise.
One thing I don’t agree with is we are keeping Jak around just to save face. He turned out to be a pretty good player. With that being said I’d move him this summer for the right price, before I’d pay him what I think is 15mm a year market value come 2023.
Peoltl would only start for the Lakers when Anthony Davis was injured.
That's quite the longshot assumption, considering we have posters in this very thread arguing that the Spurs are keeping Jakob just to "save face" on a Kawhi trade that the team and organization has long moved on from. Rubbing braincells isn't all that common nowadays.
Sadly I see the same debate being held regarding Murray's contract once he's up for an extension. Talk of "yeah he's worth his current salary and a bit more, but a max?!" and all that. Tiresome but predictable.
no he wouldn't, he'd start alongside AD for the 20 games a year that he's healthy, and still start the 60 games he's Day-to-Davis. Are you forgetting that's the same AD that literally refuses to play the C for his team, and the same Lakers team starting literal LeBron at C?
Do y'all watch games or what?
Do y'all watch games or what?
I don't really watch many Lakers games but he sure seems to play a lot of center to me.
https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/...deandre-jordan
Even if this joke would start on the Lakers or Dallas, they still have a superstar and can hide this loser while he's on the floor, while our team full of role players can't really do that.
Not to be confused with The Joker. Poodle is simply, a Joke
I don’t think anyone is not happy with Zollins and Landale playing well lately. I know they’re far from the defensive players that we like. But at least they can play in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line.
If AD is playing C, then yes....but he doesn't like it and considers himself a 4...
Several teams would be interested this summer (trade) or the following by signing him as a FA...Toronto, Charlotte, Chicago, NY, and Detroit in the East and there are nearly as many in the West. That doesn't mean they will all be fighting each other for him but, all of those would have some level of interest either by trade or signing him at $15M.
Max extension this summer is $50.5 over 4 I believe is what Chinook quoted...
Lol, it's noteworthy because it's such a rare condition, precisely because he doesn't play the 5 nor considers himself a C. People have literally been saying "AD at 5 is a cheatcode" for years and the man himself refuses to do that. Given his frail body and the gruesome nature of playing the C, I understand him to an extent, but still a weak move that hinders his team, and still means he'd start alongside Jakob, which was the whole point.
And I'd love to see Jakob alongside a "PF" like AD, tbh. Great compliment to Jak's game.
Oh, every non-superstar player is a loser now? Interesting. Or is he a loser just because he hasn't won a ring? What does that make the rest of the Spurs, then? I'm fully expecting a self-deprecating answer here, so just spit it out, tbh
It's kind of a common thing in the NBA, where stars and superstars make the roleplayers around them better and cohesive, whereas lacking a superstar makes the team very non-achieving and the same roleplayers that would thrive with it, suffer. Surprising that you haven't caught up on this given your account dates all the way back to '06, but I guess some people are slow learners.
Or is the point of this post that Jak is supposed to be the superstar carrying the Spurs? I don't know which one is more laughable, tbh
You'd be best to note that the same people saying Jakob will command $20M+ a year are the same people ing on him over it, and saying he's not worth nearly as much as that, when nobody's suggested a "max extension" or close to it, from either side. It's also the same people saying Jakob wouldn't start on any team, which is even more paradoxical - can't start on any team, yet we gotta trade him now, or he'll price us out with $20M/per?
I find solace in knowing it's the same people that laughed at the contract the Spurs signed Jakob to, lauding it a ridiculous overpay (you can go back and check the thread, it's a Google search away), yet now say it's great value and basically the only positive thing about Jak. People just don't know jack about nowadays, it's sad.
I believe it's 4/$58M.
My sense is he'd accept that if offered.
I am no a fan of Poodle but he is a legit NBA starter for us and on this team we have only 2 legit NBA starters - Murray and Poodle. I would say this if we paired him with a legit NBA Power Forward someone who could play defense rebound and block shots and had a decent outside game this team would be vastly improved.
Having said that I am always open to trades for the right price and If someone is going to give us something we want/need then by all means trade him. I am high on Walter Kessler 7’1 center from Auburn who I think could replace Poodle after one year in the system if we are able to draft him.
I think Warriors screwed up big time not trying to swap Wiseman for Poodle. Wiseman not a good fit there. Their championship window about to shut.
As well as Cadillac Anderson in a losing Spurs team
A thread about a Poeltl Interview with the Austrian media.
And here's another one (translated by Google)
Jakob Pöltl: Back in Austria.
A month after losing the play-in with the San Antonio Spurs in the National Basketball Association (NBA), Austria's pioneer in Vienna looked back positively on his personally best season so far, which also made him interesting for other teams. The 26-year-old would like to stay in Texas, but wouldn't worry about a trade either. "I know my worth," said the Viennese, who is about to make a comeback in the national team after a four-year break.
The nascent Spurs were defeated in New Orleans in April and missed the playoffs for the third straight year. "I'm not crying after that," said Pöltl when asked about the ongoing postseason, which he has to follow from afar. A play-off participation would also have been a very positive surprise, less surprising was the further development of the 2.16 meter center, who also distinguished himself as a leading player.
“I am satisfied with my personal performance. It was another step in the right direction, but I would like to keep improving," emphasized Pöltl, who set several personal bests in his sixth season: 13.5 points, 9.3 rebounds, 2.8 assists and 29 minutes Playing time – it has never gone so well on average. As far as his future is concerned, Pöltl sees himself well positioned. “I would like to stay in San Antonio, but a trade would not be new to me either. I'm not worried, I think I could make it to other teams in the NBA."
"I was involved in trade talks"
Pöltl has long since made a name for himself in the NBA, with only two players outperforming his 3.9 offensive rebounds per game. At 1.7 blocks, it also ranks in the top five in another category. “There are enough things where I can improve. It's also about becoming more flexible," says Pöltl ambitiously. He has long been an important part of the Spurs, but his strengths have also made him interesting for other teams. In the winter, his name came up around the trade deadline. "I was involved in trade talks," says Pöltl, who, with around eight million euros a year, is one of the low-income regulars in his position.
Pöltl is still under contract with the Spurs for one year, an early contract extension is possible in the near future, as is another trade that took him from Toronto to San Antonio in 2018. "I don't think about it too much now," said Pöltl, who will also increase his salary by 2023 at the latest. The Viennese still feels completely at home in Texas, "I get a lot of minutes, the confidence. That's how I like to play basketball. It's not about teasing out a few million extra for me either."
Although the current phase of the five-time NBA champion could be nicer. "It's normal in the NBA to be in midfield," said Pöltl. "This year the focus was on developing the young team and gaining experience, for example in terms of the play-in." The hopes rest above all on the superstar on the sidelines, legendary coach Gregg Popovich. “I assume he will continue, maybe for a few more years. He still has the energy,” said Pöltl, who has chosen the Golden State Warriors as his favorites this year, about the 73-year-old old champion.
Highlight throw: "Even 'Pop' made a joke"
Apparently it's not about having fun. After his highlight throw of the season, a half-time buzzer beater from the middle line, Pöltl was also a topic of conversation in the Spurs dressing room in the days that followed. "Even 'Pop' made a joke," smiled Pöltl, who also liked to joke. "I knew he was going in." The team chemistry is generally right, which also makes staying attractive.
Perhaps there will soon be Austrian additions to the NBA, with Vorarlberger Luka Brajkovic hoping to be drafted. "He has the talent," says Pöltl, who knows, however, that "a team also needs luck and trust". In another US sport, Bernhard Raimann is a newcomer to the Indianapolis Colts football team. "It would be nice if something developed here too."
Pöltl is happy to be back in Austria for a few weeks, although his luggage is still a long time coming after his arrival on Tuesday. The modest local sports star is less interested in material things anyway. "Seeing friends and family is the best thing." This year, after a two-year pandemic break, the Jakob Pöltl Camp for eight to 14-year-olds is back on the program. “I am really looking forward to the camp taking place again. I just want to have fun with the kids, teach them something."
National team more likely than Oktoberfest
The Austrian Basketball Association (ÖBV) can also look forward to Pöltl's return to the national team. "That's absolutely an issue." At the end of the first round of the pre-qualification for the 2025 European Championship finals, the ÖBV men in Salzburg still meet Ireland (June 30) and Cyprus (July 3). "It looks good," remarked Pöltl. There are still details to be clarified regarding his insurance, but the Spurs and the NBA have pledged their support.
Until then, Pöltl is training and enjoying his time in Vienna, where more and more people are recognizing him. "Every year a little more, but not comparable to San Antonio." On the one hand, that doesn't bother him, on the other hand, the sporting priorities are somewhere else. Pöltl takes this calmly, as well as the hardships in the course of an NBA season. Because of his overseas development, he has to wait with a project because "I've always wanted to go to the Oktoberfest".
Poeltl will play for the Austrian National team today at 13:20 (your time)
Livestream: https://tvthek.orf.at/live/Basketbal...rland/14179176
Spurs need to monetize him this off-season. If you sold high on Murray because you don’t want to pay him you probably should sell high on Jak when his value is near peak. He is going to look much worse on offense without DJ sooon feeding him the ball.
Remember at the deadline there were rumblings the CHI wanted to trade for him using Coby White and that POR 2023 FRP. Seemed like selling low at the time, but may seem reasonable now given his expiring status.
A far out first and an expiring. Zollins can be tank commander at the 5.
Losing Jak’s defensive presence will shave 5 wins off last years total easily even if Sochan contributes immediately.
His value is tied to supply and demand. I think to most teams he is worth spending 1-2 picks over what it costs to get Ayton or Gobert and he can give you a lot of what they do at a fraction of the cost. There’s probably 4-5 teams in that market.
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